Ohio Preacher Asked Men if they Performed Oral Sex on Spouses, Asked Males if they Had Large Penises, Asked to Look at their Penises, Asked One Actor if He Shaved His Pubic Hair, Encouraged Women Congregants to Get Abortions, Males to Get Vasectomies / Another Blow to “Be Equally Yoked” Christian Teachings

Ohio Preacher Asked Men if they Performed Oral Sex on Spouses, Asked Males if they Had Large Penises, Asked to Look at their Penises, Asked One Actor if He Shaved His Pubic Hair, Encouraged Women Congregants to Get Abortions, Males to Get Vasectomies / Another Blow to “Be Equally Yoked” Christian Teachings

(Link):  Ohio televangelist ‘forced members to have vasectomies and abortions, told women to treat pregnancies as tumors and allowed children to be sexually abused’

  • Vasectomies and abortions encouraged to save offspring from today’s evils 
  • A pregnant woman was told to treat her fetus as if it was a tumor
  • Abuse victims claim Ernest Angley told them to keep their allegations secret

Before I paste in a bunch more links to this news story, here are some of my thoughts about it:

Yet another shining example of why Christian women should not even bother with “being equally yoked,” as some church-going, self professing Christian men, some of whom work as elders or preachers, are perverts who molest people or overstep their bounds.

I am surprised at how many Christians went along with this perverted preacher and for how long. Some of them went to this guy’s church for months or years before working up the courage or disgust to walk out.

Christians are some of the biggest, passive wimps I have ever met.

Many Christians are severely codependent – they routinely take Bible verses about “being meek” and “turning the cheek” and “loving your enemy” to wrongly assume the Bible is teaching them to be doormats and to tolerate evil and idiots – but it’s not teaching you to put up with any of that, or to be a doormat.

What I am trying to say is that if you are a grown man (or woman) attending a church where the pastor tells you to get an abortion, or asked you to drop your drawers to look at your penis, or he asks if you perform oral sex on your wife, or whatever inappropriate action or remark he makes, you should respond in one of several ways to these scenarios:

  • 1. Punch him in his disgusting face
  • 2. Tell him none of his damn business, and that he is a pervert
  • 3. Extend your middle finger to his face and tell him to F*CK OFF
  • 4. Stop attending his church the first time such a situation occurs

What is not an option: complying with his disgusting wish. This dude is just some old perverted coot. He has no authority over you, NONE.

Assuming you work at a secular job (not at the same church where the abuse is going down):

Just like your boss at your job has no right to threaten your ass with firing if you don’t sleep with him or show him your nude penis, and just as your boss at your job has no right to ask about your sexual habits, you are under no obligation to go along with bat sh*t insane requests like, “so, tell me, do you have a big penis,” or, “hey, drop your pants and underwear so I can check out your genitals” from your preacher.

Christians of the world, being a “good, biblical Christian” has nothing to do with being a doormat.

Stop allowing people to exploit you.

Never participate in something that makes you feel uncomfortable, such as telling your pastor how big your penis is, or what your sex life is like. Those subjects and ones like them are NONE OF YOUR PREACHER’S BUSINESS, not even in the guise of “men’s accountability” meetings or groups.

Seriously, go out and get a copy of the books,

  • Boundaries” by Christian psychiatrists Cloud and Townsend,
  • No More Christian Nice Guy” by Paul Coughlin,
  • The Disease to Please” by Dr. H. Braiker

-and read them, read those books! If money is an issue, perhaps your local library has copies you can check out.

The first two books will explain to you why being a Christian does NOT MEAN having to take sh-t off other people (God does not expect, command, or demand that you permit yourself to be abused or used by other people), the third is a general book not necessarily written from a “Christian” view but it is invaluable to Christians who are too terrified to say “no” to people and who believe that having limits is selfish, mean, or unbiblical.

Christians: You have a right to say “no” to gross or weird questions or requests, even from your church preacher.

Also: as much as I cannot stand the extreme emphasis most churches put on marriage, natalism, and parenting, which alienates singles, widowers, and the infertile – I do NOT condone the extreme opposite: a church where the pastor and/or other members pressure people to NOT marry or NOT have children.

Whether you marry or not or have a kid or not is YOUR CHOICE, and your church should shut their pie holes about it.

The Bible defends all situations: having a kid, not having a kid (whether by choice or by circumstance); being single OR being married.

There is nothing sinful or shameful about getting married OR being single, or with having children or NOT having children.

(Link):  Ohio televangelist ‘forced members to have vasectomies and abortions, told women to treat pregnancies as tumors and allowed children to be sexually abused’

  • Vasectomies and abortions encouraged to save offspring from today’s evils 
  • A pregnant woman was told to treat her fetus as if it was a tumor
  • Abuse victims claim Ernest Angley told them to keep their allegations secret

(Link):  Televangelist pastor accused of forcing vasectomies and abortions on church members

  • Former members of Grace Cathedral in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio have accused church leader and televangelist Ernest Angley of demanding they have abortions or vasectomies, and that he would both engage in and turn a blind eye to sexual abuse in the church.

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Ask Men site’s Woman Virgin Shaming Editorial, entitled, Five Reasons Not To Sleep With A Virgin

Ask Men site’s Virgin Shaming Editorial, entitled, Five Reasons Not To Sleep With A Virgin

I guess the writer of this piece (I am assuming this was written by a male), or most men today, would be fine with having sex with Bambi, Tiffani, or Brittney, all of whom have banged hundreds of men in one night stands ever since they were fifteen years of age, because they “have experience” and “won’t become too attached.”

Here’s the link to the bigoted, gross, virgin-shaming editorial – which is, wait for it: written by a woman, supposedly, I just notice her name, a “Sarah Stefanson” (it could be that is a pen name, and the person who wrote this is a man) :

(Link):  5 Reasons Not To Sleep With A Virgin (link is to page two of the article)

Excerpts:

  • by Sarah Stefanson
  • 1- There’s extra prep work
  • Unlike a more experienced woman, a virgin really doesn’t know what to expect. This means that you’re going to have to put in some effort before the deed is done and plan ahead to make sure that she’s comfortable and completely willing.
  • It may take some considerable convincing on your part to get her into bed, and while that isn’t one of our five reasons not to sleep with a virgin, your seduction skills will certainly be put to the test when it comes to taking a girl’s virginity.
  • Also, the older she is, the harder it will be.
  • If she has managed to protect her virginity all through high school and into her 20s, it will be that much more difficult to persuade her that she should give it up to you.
  • 4- She lacks skills
  • Since she’s inexperienced, she’s probably not going to be that good in bed, and that’s a big reason not to sleep with a virgin.
  • There are exceptions to this rule, of course, since there are plenty of skills a girl can learn before she loses her actual virginity.
  • If, however, she has little experience with sexual activity in general, the encounter is not going to be all that pleasurable for you.
  • If all you want is the power trip that comes from taking her virginity, then you’re golden, but if you want a mutually satisfying sexual experience, you should look for someone who has had time to develop some sexual skills.
  • 5- It could get messy
  • There is a possibility that having sex with a virgin could literally make a mess of your sheets. Being penetrated for the first time is likely to hurt her and it could result in some bleeding. If the sight of blood makes you squeamish, devirginizing a girl is not for you. A woman’s first sexual experience can leave a very unsexy mess to clean up.

Notice in much of this list, all the emphasis is on the man and what the man wants, and how having sex with a female virgin may inconvenince him in some manner. My god, the entitlement. The lack of concern for another human being. People today are incredibly self-absorbed.

Notice also, under point 2, which reads (see the portion in bold face):

  • 2- There’s a freak-out potential
  • When it comes to having sex with a virgin, the potential for her to freak out before, during or after the sex act is quite high. She may decide at the last minute that she doesn’t want to go through with it or she may feel massively guilty afterward for having done it. Because so much importance is put on her virginity, her first time is bound to be an emotional experience, which means that you might have to deal with panic, sadness, guilt, and other unpleasant reactions….

Secularists cannot make up their freaking minds on this.

I just reviewed a Hollywood film (link to that review) about female virginity several months ago, and the new narrative being put out by Non-Christians in movies is that a woman giving up her virginity is no longer considered special or important by women any longer – but this writer is saying, yes, it is.

According to one article I linked to months ago, most women do NOT bleed or feel pain when they lose their virginity – the article said some do, but some don’t.

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Related posts:

(Link): Virginity Lost, Experience Gained (article with information from study about virginity)

(Link): Living Myths About Virginity – article from The Atlantic

(Link): I Shouldn’t Need An Excuse To Be A Virgin – (Secular Editorial Defends Virginity – More Rare Than a Unicorn Sighting)

(Link):  On ‘Late’-In-Life Virginity Loss (from The Atlantic)

(Link):  Sometimes Fornication Can Impact Another Relationship Later – One Example

(Link): Why Some People Become 30 Year Old Virgins (Article / Study)

Kevin Davis, 18, Admits Killing His Mother & Losing His Virginity To Her Corpse (GROSS)

Kevin Davis, 18, Admits Killing His Mother & Losing His Virginity To Her Corpse

Ick. ICK. YUCK.

One reason I support the death penalty? Stories like this one.

(Link):  Son, 18, who beat his mother to death with a hammer, SMILES as jury hears how he sexually abused her to lose his virginity

(Link): Texas Teenager, Kevin Davis, Commits Horrific Crime Against Mother

(Link): Texas man gets life sentence for killing mother with hammer, defiling her corpse

(Link):  DISTURBING! Texas man tells detectives he killed his own mother…and that’s not all! [He had sex with his mother's dead body]

(Link):  Teenager ‘lost virginity to mother’s corpse’ after killing her with a hammer

(Link): Kevin Davis, 18, Admits Killing His Mother & Losing His Virginity To Her Corpse

  • A teenager has been jailed for life after admitting to killing his mother and then raping her corpse.
  • Kevin Davis murdered Kimberly Hill, 50, in her Texas apartment on 27 March.
  • In a filmed interview obtained by KZTV, the 18-year-old explains to detectives  how he at first attempted to strangle her with a cord from a video game console.
  • …When that didn’t work, he fetched a hammer and hit her on the head.The footage sees Davis claim to have reached into his mother’s skull to “grab her brain”.When he is asked what he did next, Davis replies: “Then I had sexual intercourse.”

    The detective asks if it was his “first time”, to which Davis says: “Oh yeah, I lost my virginity to a corpse.”

    Davis pleaded not guilty to murder in June but admitted his crime just as his trial began on 6 October.

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Related posts (yes sadly there are related posts):

(Link): Necrophiliac Charged With Banging 100 Corpses – Are We Allowed to Necrophilia-Shame?

(Link): Incest a ‘fundamental right’, German committee says

(Link):  Married Stepfather Arrested for Incest with Stepdaughter

(Link): Apparently Marriage and Parenting Turns Adults Into Incestuous Child Rapists

(Link): Parenthood Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread)

Church Youth Pastor Puts Peanut Butter on His Arm Pits and Between Toes and Tells Kids to Lick it Off – other gross, inappropriate youth group activities

Church Youth Pastor Puts Peanut Butter on His Arm Pits and Between Toes and Tells Kids to Lick it Off

I first became aware of this on Janet Mefferd’s show (link). The story is several years old. It appears to have taken place around 2009.

Here are some links about it (I am not taking the time to vet each site I am linking to here; I am only linking to these sites for their reporting on this peanut butter story, or similar stories).

(Link): Peanut Butter Passion

  • Someone a few months ago sent me this article about a youth leader who likes to provoke his students to a state of screaming enthusiasm with gross-out games. (Warning: the article itself and the other links in the following paragraph are extremely gross. Home-school moms might want to look away.)
  • The article describes how this youth leader had a teenager with hairy armpits smear gobs of peanut butter on his underarms; then the youth pastor asked for volunteers to lick it clean and swallow the peanut butter.
  • The youth leader uses skits like that to “shock and astound.” (Those are his exact words.) He told that secular reporter that he does things like that all the time to get the students excited, so that they will talk about the church.

(Link):  Don’t Read This If You Have a Weak Stomach… (examples of disgusting youth group activities)

This comes from a site advertising itself as a tool for youth pastors. This page advises getting the teens to rub the bread on someone’s arm pits before eating it:

(Link):  Youth Ministry Games : P,B & J (submitted in 2000)

  • Submitted by: on August 1, 2000
    Materials: Peanutbutter, Jelly, and Bread, 2 dufflebags…
    Messy Rating: Special Considerations     Duration: 5-20 minutes    Cost: $5.00

    Two guys are geting ready for their dates, after working out at the gym. (Have to be really sweaty. Need two volunteers who are not afraid of anything.) The thing is, they don’t have any deoderant, hair gel, and did not have time to eat. They then pull out the PB and put it under their arms for deoderant.

  • Next they pull out the jelly for the hair gel. Now they are ready for their dates. But one thing remains, they are still hungry.
  • They then pull out the bread, taking one slice and rubbing their armpits. Taking the other slice and rubbing their head. Then putting the two pieces of bread together for their sandwhiches. But that’s not all. They switch snadwhiches and have a bite or two!!!!
  • This will gross out anybody, kids or adults!!! This is an awesome ice breaker for new groups!

In the course of looking up the peanut butter in the armpit story, I found this page:

(Link):  Peanut butter salvation and other stupid church tricks.

  • Four sets of parents are suing a church in Indiana for what happened at a New Year’s Eve lock-in. A youth leader chewed up a mixture of dog food, sardines, potted meat, sauerkraut, cottage cheese, and salsa, topped off with holiday eggnog. As if this spectacle were not disgusting enough (let the reader beware), he then spit out the mixture into a glass and encouraged the members of the youth group to drink it!
  • Some of those who did, of course, became sick, whereupon their parents sued the church.
  • ….Then there are games designed to appeal to adolescents’ hormones. These include kissing games like “Kiss the Wench.”
  • “Leg Line Up” has girls feel boys’ legs to identify who is who.
  • Some of them have odd homosexual subtexts, like “Pull Apart,” in which guys cling to each other, while girls try to pull them apart.
  • Another has girls putting make-up on guys, leading to a drag beauty show. Then there is the embarrassingly Freudian “Baby Bottle Burp,” in which girls put a diaper (a towel) on a boy, then feed him a bottle of soda, and cradle him until he burps!

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Related:

(Link):  Preachers Who Use Strippers, Hula Girls, Topless Hunky Men, and Strip Poles During Church Services and Give Sex Diplomas to Teens – Yes, Really

(Link): Want To Grow Your Church? Advertise Sex. (story via A Little Leaven blog)

(Link):  Church’s Bizarre Sermon To Singles About Singlehood – With Spiderman Theme

(Link):  Ignatius the Ultimate Youth Pastor & Teaching Christian Singles About Sex (parody)

Christian Swingers: Body-building Christian Couple Advocates and Practices Wife Swapping – and the wife calls this lifestyle “pure”

Christian Swingers: Body-building Christian Couple Advocates and Practices Wife Swapping – and the wife calls this lifestyle “pure”

I first saw this article mentioned via Janet Mefferd (on her Twitter).

(Link): Swinging towards God! Body-building Christian couple spread the word about religion via their WIFE-SWAPPING network

My comments about this article:

The swinging wife of the married couple says she is living a “pure” lifestyle.

No, lady, no, you’re not. It’s the opposite of “pure.” You and your husband are total sluts. (Slut shaming is sometimes a good thing, link on that. It sure comes in handy on occasions like this one.)

What this couple is doing is classified as “fornication” or “adultery” in the Bible, so yes, God would have a problem with what they are doing.

It does not matter if the couple practicing are both fine with it; it matters what God has to say on the matter, and God says sex is to be between one man and one woman who are married to each other.

In teachings on sexual morality and marriage in the Bible, nowhere does God tack on this qualifier: “unless both partners agree to it, then, in which case, hey, I’m fine with it, too.”

The woman in this article arguing as she does would be like a Christian saying that her preacher is fine with her stealing candy from babies, and as she agrees it is fine too, it does not matter if God says in the Bible that stealing is sinful.

If we all just agree with each other that stealing is acceptable, or murder, or incest, or whatever, then it’s not a sin! What wonky reasoning. It’s still considered a sin by God, regardless if humanity is fine with it.

Note also that this story flies in the face of common Christian propaganda about sex and marriage, e.g.,

  • -that marriage makes a couple sexually pure (they are getting their sexual needs met via a spouse so they will not commit fornication, so the thinking goes), and that
  • -married people are more godly and mature than adult singles
  • -married sex is “mind blowing”
  • -(married) women want emotional intimacy only or primarily and hate sex or are un-interested in sex

Note also that these deviants met on a dating site.

I’ve had several married friends aggressively push “use a dating site, Christian Pundit!!” line on me when I have mentioned wanting to be married. Look at the kind of crack pots are on dating sites.

I wonder if on those dating sites this “swinging” Christian couple were members of, if they classified themselves as Christian?

If so – again, Christians, tell me why Christian single women should only marry another Christian, when there are atheists out there who have better sexual morals than this?

The people in the photos (IMO – and I refer to the photos on the page of the swinging body builder couples) are terribly unattractive. I don’t know how people that are so physically unappealing manage to get married and have sex, let alone get a date. Yikes.

(Link): Swinging towards God! Body-building Christian couple spread the word about religion via their WIFE-SWAPPING network

  • Cristy and Dean Parave, from Florida, run a Christian swingers network
  • They say God ‘wouldn’t mind’ what they do because it’s all for a good cause
  • Cristy, 44, and Dean, 50, met through a dating website eight years ago
  • The pair, who love body-building, now run a website called FitnessSwingers
  • Mr Parave found religion while in prison and has a 40ft cross in his garden
  •  By RUTH STYLES FOR MAILONLINE
  • Sept 25, 2014
  • Swinging might not be the obvious way to spread the word about religion but for Cristy and Dean Parave, from Florida, it is ideal.

    The couple, both of whom are devoted Christians, have even set up a website called FitnessSwingers.com which enables them to meet couples who, like them, are both religious and fans of keeping fit.

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Incest a ‘fundamental right’, German committee says

Incest a ‘fundamental right’, German committee says

Wow, Germany. Wow.

(Link): Incest a ‘fundamental right’, German committee says 

  • Anti-incest laws in Germany could be scrapped after a government-backed group said relationships between brothers and sisters should be legal
  • “Criminal law is not the appropriate means to preserve a social taboo,” the German Ethics Council said in a statement. “The fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination is to be weighed more heavily than the abstract idea of protection of the family.”

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Christian Janitor of Church Secretly Videotapes Christian Women in Bathroom

Christian Janitor of Church Secretly Videotapes Christian Women in Bathroom

(Link):  UNHOLY ACT: JANITOR ARRESTED FOR ALLEGEDLY RECORDING WOMEN IN CHURCH BATHROOM

  • “No one ever had any suspicions, he’s been a loved member of our congregation, San Pablo and St. Paul, and has worked here for many years,” Reverend Jim Ezell said of Daniel Murguia, according to local Fox News affiliate KSWB 8.
  • SALINAS, Calif. —A longtime maintenance employee at a Salinas church hid a camera inside the church’s bathroom and secretly recorded women, police said.
  • Investigators discovered at least 20 instances when women were unknowingly recorded at St. Paul’s Episcopal Church on Pajaro Drive.
  • “The investigation revealed Murguia was the owner of the camera and had placed the camera in various bathrooms within the church to record unsuspecting females,” Gomez said.

(Link):  Hidden cameras found inside church bathroom in Salinas

(Link): Police say church employee recorded women in bathroom

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Related:

(Link): A Man Recognized His Church in a Porn Flick

(Link): Woman charged with raping boy inside church

(Link):  Sex Makes People Do Stupid Things – New Jersey brokers accused of using client home for sex fests

(Link):  Having Sex in Restaurant Bathrooms is Now A Thing

(Link):  HIV Infected Homosexual Guy Secretly Video Taped Himself Having Unprotected Sex With Over 30 People – Times You Are Glad You Are Celibate

Stolen Baby Photo Role Playing – weird internet trend

Stolen Baby Photo Role Playing – weird internet trend

My fellow conservatives like to get worked up over how “the family” is supposedly under attack, and how women aren’t having as many children anymore, and other such related topics. I’m sorry, but in light of stories like this one, it looks like our culture is just as obsessed with children, babies, and the nuclear family as ever, and weirdly so.

This is weird.

People are taking photos of other people’s babies from other sites and passing them off as their own on sites such as “Instagram.” Some even pretend to by the baby and type messages as though they are the baby when people leave them comments.

(Link): Stolen Baby Photo Role Play

Excerpt.

  • …Fast Company (Link): has a report on the practice, leading with the story of North Carolina mom Jenny, who discovered someone called “Nikki” was stealing Instagram photos of her son, assigning him a new name and claiming as her own, offering fabricated details about his birth weight, for instance.
  • ….But it can get much, much darker. The Toronto Star and Daily Dot (Link): both covered the trend back in December 2013, when several moms banded together and launched a Change.org petition calling on Instagram to take action. (They also launched @babyrp_revealed and @stop_babyrp to report specific accounts.) And (Link): according to the Star:
  • “As time went on the posts we were seeing went from disturbing to vile. Some were being abused both physically and sexually and some were being even killed off,” says Corinne Chaimovitz, a Toronto-area mother who started a campaign last month against the practice using the hashtag #downwithbabyrp. “When this began, we just wanted to get the stolen pictures removed. None of us ever expected any of this.”

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Related posts:

(Link): Family Is Not a Norman Rockwell Painting, Christians: Man kept dead mom in freezer for 3 years, cashed her Social Security checks: cops

(Link):  Mean Moms Caught Making Fun of ‘Ugly’ Babies in Secret Facebook Group

(Link): Christianity Should Be Able To Work Regardless of Culture, Childed or Marital Status / Article: Unlike in the 1950s, there is no ‘typical’ U.S. family today by B. Shulte

(Link):  Single Woman Photographer Opposes Societal Marital Pressure with Mannequin Family

Ageism Vs. Age Preferences and Creepy Older Men (critique of post at another blog)

Ageism Vs. Age Preferences and Creepy Older Men

Here is a critique of a blog page by a self identifying, 50- something year old, celibate, Christian by the name of John Morgan (who I had to ban from my blog months before. See other, older posts on this blog for details about that).

Here’s his (J. Morgan’s) blog page about ageism, as it pertains to celibacy and singleness.

(I find it strange that while this guy doesn’t understand women, seems to harbor hostility against them, yet thinks he understands them, so he writes material such as this):

(Link):  Ageism’s Effect on Virtuous Women

Excerpt:

  • Isn’t it odd that virginity is not supposed to exist today after 30, especially for guys? The result is a lot of lonely girls looking for Mr. Right and the typical “I’m too good for you” man-hating language infiltrating the internet dating profiles. How does the virtuous guy interpret that?
  • Not too good. Here’s a sample from a 23 year old girl:
  • ““I’m a virgin and plan on staying that way till I get married. You shouldn’t message me if you’re older then 28. I’m not gonna date you. I’m really not even comfortable being your friend at that point. You better be ready for a conversation. None of this 20 question crap. It’s uncomfortable. I won’t play. You best be ready for a friendship first. That’s right, I only date from my friend zone pile. That’s how I know your character.
  • /end quote by 23 year old woman
  • I guess in her world those of us over 28 and waiting don’t exist. This is what happens when even the eyes of decent girls get fogged over with the ways of the world, when they spend so much time in front of TVs watching the rape and murder stories on the local news that they can’t discern reality.
  • Fornication becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. If you expect no better than that, you will see no better than that. If you expect all Mr. Wrongs, you will see only Mr. Wrongs.

Here he goes again, blaming women.

He seems to have some real issues with women, and blaming them.

Who runs churches and much of Christian culture? Men, that’s who – especially married men.

Most churches do not permit women to teach or lead or to make decisions about anything beyond what type of casserole to bring to the church potluck.

So I’d say married men in churches, or who are otherwise very influential figure heads in Christian culture (e.g., male Christian authors), are in large measure to blame for how Christian singles are dysfunctional in how they deal with each other and with dating, as they are the ones dictating to everyone else in society how Christian singles “should” be relating to each other. Stop laying that mess at the feet of unmarried Christian women.

(Some married Christian women are to blame for this situation as well, such as author Debbie Maken. However, the ladies are outnumbered by the men who preach, lecture, and crank out books by ten to one.)

At any rate, let’s examine the content of Morgan’s comments and the woman’s quote again.

Where Morgan writes,

  •  Isn’t it odd that virginity is not supposed to exist today after 30, especially for guys?

No, it’s not considered “especially” odd by some in our culture for men to be virgins past 30. It’s considered equally odd by our culture for women to be so past their mid 20s, see this post for an explanation:

(Link): Male Entitlement and Adult Virginity: Who has it worse, Male Vs. Female? (critique of post at other blog)

Quoting Morgan:

  • Fornication becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. If you expect no better than that, you will see no better than that. If you expect all Mr. Wrongs, you will see only Mr. Wrongs.

It’s not a question of women seeing Mr. Wrongs, as though Mr. Wrongs exist only in their imaginations. There are in fact a ton of Mr. Wrongs in existence, even among self professing Christian males. I have documented many examples, see this page.

See also these pages (some of these links are off site) for more examples of the sexist bullsh-t women have to deal with routinely on dating sites:

Getting back again to the commentary Morgan says he got from a 23 year old woman’s dating profile (question: he told me in the past he’s over 50. What in the hell is he doing looking at the profiles of 23 year olds? Or is he getting her information elsewhere?)

Anyway, she says she is 23 and has an age cap of 28 on men she is willing to date. If you are a man past 28, she says no gracias to you, get lost.

Do you know why she has an age cap of 28?

It’s not necessarily because she assumes all men over 30 are fornicators, but that she would feel more comfortable dating a man within five years of her age.

And that is a perfectly normal, reasonable preference.

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Single Woman Meets Stalker Guy at Church – letter to “Ask Amy” Advice Columnist

Single Woman Meets Stalker Guy at Church

Growing up, I heard from my Mom and Dad, who were both Christians, that church is the ideal place for a Christian, single gal to attend if she wants to meet a decent, single, Christian man – if her goal is to marry. Church was supposed to be the primary husband hunting ground for women. That may have been true in the 1950s, but no more.

For one thing, most churches lack single males past 30, and the few who do attend regularly, from what I’ve seen myself, and have read other women discuss online and in books of their church going experience, tend to be weird, terribly over-weight, have severe mental health issues, smell bad, etc. and so on.

The kind of men who do show up to church are often not date-able men.

The solution to how to attract more men to church has nothing to do with women, with what women do or do not do for men, single or married.

Women, single or married, do not owe adult, single, celibate or non-celibate men ego-stroking or emotional support for being celibate singles (see this post for more on that, and I may write another post on this topic in the future).

I do think the church as a whole – that is, church culture – needs to be affirming of lifelong or adult celibacy and singlehood overall, including everyone from the male pastor to the male deacons, elders, and women who teach Sunday School, because God knows they have made marriage, “the family,” and natalism into idols that they never shut up about, but to “single” the single women out for this purpose is sexist and odd.

Yes, really and truly, there are some self-identified adult, Christian, celibate single men who believe that male church attendance would sky rocket if only the mean, horrible, heartless, single adult women would pile on the affirmations to the single, celibate men and sing the praises of adult celibate men.

Oh please. You’re not five years old. Motivate yourself. Single, celibate adult women are not to blame for churches who ignore single, celibate men. Churches ignore both genders, not only the single men. They ignore single women too.

If you’re an adult over 25, stop demanding, like a petulant, whiny, demanding teenager, that adult, unmarried women stroke your ego for being celibate or single.

A lot of adult, single women are finding most churches irrelevant to their needs, so more and more adult single women are dropping out of church. I don’t see celibate, single men or churches in general making single, celibate women feel more welcome.

On the contrary, churches continue to marginalize single, celibate women by continually harping on how God’s only role for women is to marry and have babies.

Anyway. This single, 25 year old woman mentioned in the letter below that she met a single guy at church who is around 35 (I may have gotten his age wrong, I thought I saw the mom say he is ten years older than the daughter), and he turned out to be a stalker – and I have a few more comments to make below these letters:

  • DEAR AMY: My 25-year-old daughter briefly dated a man she met in church last December.
  • After one month, she ended the friendship (he was too emotionally needy).
  • He continues to pursue her by constant texting and e-mailing. She says he alternates between “saying mean things” and then apologizing and begging her to give him another chance.
  • She does not respond and blocked his phone, but he continues to text from different numbers. She does not reply to his e-mails. She moved to a different side of town, and so far he has not shown up at her work.
  • We’re very worried about this. What steps can she take to be safe and get this man to stop contacting her? Should her father confront him? So far we have not gotten involved.
  • – Very Worried
  • DEAR WORRIED: I shared your question with Michele Archer, an expert on stalking with the victim’s advocacy group Safe Horizon, (Link): safehorizon.org. Archer has some suggestions for your daughter: “Keep a stalking log of all incidents, including the date, time, location and a brief description of the incident. Save and print out the e-mails. Save all text messages and document them in the log.
  • “I would suggest not changing her e-mail address, but she may want to open another account and give that to people she trusts. Changing her e-mail address may escalate his behavior, and the e-mails he is sending become evidence of stalking, which she can use if she goes to the police.
  • “If she has concerns about him showing up at her work, she should let her place of employment know. If she has a photo of him (look on the Internet) she can make a color copy and give it to her workplace.
  • “If she uses any social networking sites, make them private and be mindful of what she posts.
  • “If this continues, she may want to contact police. The stalking log is useful for this, and she should also show them the text messages. She can also reach out to a domestic violence organization in her community for support or help advocating with the police (if needed) or the district attorney’s office.”
  • Archer adds, “I can’t comment on whether the father should confront him because I do not have enough information about the individual pursuing her. In general, this is not recommended.”
  • In addition to the above actions, I’d like to encourage your daughter not to let this isolate her. The more support she has from friends, colleagues, family members and local law enforcement, the more secure she will feel — and the more secure she will be.

Whether this guy the 25 year old woman met is a “true” Christian or not is beside the point. Only God can see into someone’s heart.

If a man is play acting and putting on all outward appearances of being an upstanding Christian – he’s in church weekly, reads his Bible regularly, doesn’t use vulgar language, etc, and so forth – a woman may very well assume that the guy is a “true” Christian.

If something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, you’re going to feel safe assuming it’s a duck – only to find out later it’s a turkey in a duck costume.

This gets back to a point I’ve mentioned time and again on this blog: single, Christian ladies need to give up the “be equally yoked” evangelical understanding of marriage, where they feel confined to only marrying another Christian.

Other than the sheer fact that there are not enough Christian men for Christian women, a lot of the men who are Christians are pigs and dogs.

I’ve chronicled on this blog links to numerous stories about preachers and other Christians who have been arrested for wife beating, murdering their wife, owning or producing pedophile pornography, etc. (you can view examples in this thread and also do a search on this blog for the term “equally yoked”).

A man can believe in Jesus, confess Jesus is Lord, believe in the Bible, give money to charity, attend church weekly, and yet be a “slime ball” or an abuser.

Confession or actual possession of Christian faith is not a guarantee that the guy is going to treat you any better than the atheist down the street.

Just because you meet the guy in a church, and you see he’s there weekly, doesn’t mean he’s not a pervert or a nutso stalker guy. Just see the example above – the young lady met the guy at church, and he is at times hostile towards her in texts or at other times, too clingy. He’s stalking her. You can meet nuts and abusers in churches, too.

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Related:

(Link): Male Entitlement and Adult Virginity: Who has it worse, Male Vs. Female?

(Link): Christian Husband Raped, Beat His Wife, Made Her Sign “Slave Contract” – Why Christian Single Women Should Not Date or Marry Christian Men

Necrophiliac Charged With Banging Three Dead Women, Admits to Doing 100+ Corpses – Are We Allowed to Necrophiliac-Shame?

Necrophiliac Charged With Banging 100 Corpses – Are We Allowed to Necrophilia-Shame?

Some guy was caught having sex with corpses, and admitting to having sex with like 100 dead bodies at some morgue on night shift. This happened over a period of months, not that he boinked all 100 dead people the same night.

(Link): Morgue Employee Admits To Having Sex With Up To 100 Corpses While Working Night Shifts

I still believe it’s okay to have sexual standards and judge things like this as being wrong, but all the weepy, touchy feely folks, or the outraged progressive Christians, traitor conservative Christians, and secular feminists who rant against “sexual purity culture,” or anyone choosing to stay a virgin until marriage (see previous post for just such an example of that) might tell us that to shame a man for having sex with a corpse is a form of “Necrophilia shaming,” and so we shouldn’t say a peep about it.

One article says this guy is MARRIED. So much for the evangelical, fundamentalist, Reformed, and Baptist position that marriage makes a person
1. more godly
2. mature
3. immune from sexual immorality or perversion

Some Christians teach that God will not send you a spouse unless you clean yourself up first and become good, or God has to clean you up… that is you have to be godly to merit a spouse. Say what you will about a lot of Christian singles over the age of 30, but I doubt any or most are having sex with corpses. Yet, this guy who gets a stiffy in his pants for stiffies has a living wife at home. Looks to me like a person doesn’t have to be perfect or godly to get a spouse.

(Link): Morgue attendant had sex with up to 100 dead women

    By ZOE SZATHMARY FOR MAILONLINE
    PUBLISHED: 01:25 EST, 17 August 2014
    UPDATED: 08:23 EST, 17 August 2014

    Kenneth Douglas worked as an employee for Ohio’s Hamilton County

    He admitted to having sex with the bodies of April Hicks, Karen Range and Charlene Appling

    Speaking about Appling, Douglas said ‘I do remember going in the freezer, pulling her in one of the rooms in the back’

    Douglas attributed his behavior to drug and alcohol abuse in a deposition

    The county employee’s DNA was connected to Range in 2008, and later Appling and Hicks
    Hamilton County is facing a lawsuit from their families

    An Ohio morgue employee revealed he may have had sex with ‘a hundred’ corpses and continued to do so even after his wife had tipped off authorities.

    Speaking about the incidents in deposition audio obtained by WCPO, Hamilton County employee Kenneth Douglas said ‘I would get on top of them and pull my pants down.’

    When talking about the body of victim Charlene Appling, Douglas said ‘I do remember going in the freezer, pulling her in one of the rooms in the back’ before he told an investigator he ‘had sex with her.’

    When asked about the number of corpses he had sex with, Douglas answered ‘It could have been a hundred’ in the deposition audio.

    Douglas attributed his behavior to drug and alcohol abuse in the deposition.

    ‘If I wasn’t drinking, or hadn’t had anything to drink when I went to work, it wouldn’t happen. I would do crack and go in and I would drink and go in,’ he said.

    His wife was featured in a deposition video obtained by WCPO, in which she said she tried to contact someone about her husband’s behavior – but she was dismissed.

    At the time, she also said her husband ‘gets undressed and he reeks of [expletive].’

    WCPO said Douglas admitted to having sex with the bodies of April Hicks, Karen Range and Charlene Appling. Both Appling and Range were murder victims.

    ‘[In 2008] DNA connected him to semen found in Range,’ the affiliate station said. ‘[...] In 2008, Douglas pleaded guilty in the Range case and was sentenced to three years in prison. In 2012, he pleaded guilty again in the Appling and Hicks cases. Their families sued that year.’

(Link): Court: Families can sue county after morgue worker had sex with corpses

(Link): Pervert morgue assistant admits to having sex with up to 100 bodies

    A man in Ohio has admitted in court to having sex with up to 100 corpses while he worked at a morgue.

    The shocking admission by Kenneth Douglas has send shockwaves around the community in the town of Hamilton.

    Depraved Douglas told a court he was usually high or drunk and would “just get on top of them and pull my pants down”.

Brazilian Woman Discovers Her Husband Is Also Her Brother

Brazilian Woman Discovers Her Husband Is Also Her Brother

Yikes. And “ew.”

(Link): Brazilian Woman Discovers Her Husband Is Also Her Brother

    by Bijan Stephen

    The two have been together for 10 years

    A Brazilian woman on a quest to find her long-lost birth mother recently received the shock of her life: after locating her parent with the help of a radio program that specializes in finding lost relatives, she found out that her husband of seven years was actually the brother she never knew she had.

Read the rest of the article (Link): here
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Related:

(Link): Married Stepfather Arrested for Incest with Stepdaughter

(Link): Apparently Marriage and Parenting Turns Adults Into Incestuous Child Rapists

(Link): Six Christian Homeschool Brothers Some of Whom Attended a FIC (Family Integrated Church) raped their kid sister over ten year period

Christian Ladies: Be Equally Yoked to Christian Men Who Like To Have Sex With Dogs! (Re: Jerald Hill news story)

Christian Ladies: Be Equally Yoked to Christian Men Who Like To Have Sex With Dogs! (Re: Jerald Hill news story)

Christians who lecture or shame Christian single women into marrying only other Christians are… full of, you know.

When you have CHRISTIAN men jailed for rape, murder, or initiating dog sex, you have nothing to lose by dating or marrying Non-Christian men.

Why settle for a Non-Christian pagan dude when you, fine Christian single woman, can get a gem like this: a Baptist guy who gets hot and bothered thinking of doing it with Fido. (gag)

I haven’t yet seen in these articles if this guy is married or is a father (see this link for why I mention that).

(Link): [Baptist] Church Leader Jerald Hill Suspected Of Attempted Dog Sex

    A church leader in Roach, Missouri, is out of a job after being arrested for allegedly trying to arrange a sexual encounter with a dog.

    Jerald Hill, 56, was arrested Tuesday on suspicion of attempted unlawful sex with an animal and attempted animal abuse.

(Link): Missouri Baptist leader arrested for attempted bestiality

(Link): Missouri Baptist leader arrested for allegedly seeking sex with a dog

(Link): Missouri Baptist church leader arrested for seeking sex with dog

    by Joe Kemp
    August 2014

    Jerald Hill, 56 — the head of the Windermere Baptist Conference Center — was collared after he turned to Craigslist to arrange sex with a dog and the ad was answered by an undercover police officer.

    A Missouri church leader was arrested after he turned to Craigslist to arrange sex with a dog, authorities said.

    Jerald Hill, 56 — the head of the Windermere Baptist Conference Center — was collared after a police officer spotted the online ad and offered to unite the man with a pooch at a Columbia park, local media reported.

    The undercover cop, an officer with the Boone County Sheriff Department’s Cyber Crimes Task Force, charged Hill with soliciting sex with an animal.

    He was released after posting a $1,000 bond.

    The conference center will likely choose a new president and CEO after Hill’s arrest.

    “We are concerned for the well-being of Jerry…and we are also concerned with the well-being of Windermere,” Chairman Arthur Mallory said.

    “Windermere will continue to function in a good way…It is a significant piece of God’s kingdom’s work.”

h/t to SCCL Facebook Group, which is where I think I first saw this story
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Related posts (YES SAD TO SAY THERE ARE RELATED POSTS ABOUT THIS TOPIC)

(Link): Married Southern Baptist and Calvinist Preacher and Father of Boy Exposes His Naked Penis to Teen Girl in Store

(Link): Married Couple Charged With Making Dog Porn (wife had sex with dogs while husband filmed it)

(Link): Being Unequally Yoked – should Christians marry Non Christians or only marry Christians

(Link): Pastor charged in wife’s murder was headed to Europe to marry boyfriend, prosecutor says – Single Xtian Ladies: Kick that Be Equally Yoked Teaching to the Curb! Also: Marriage and Parenthood do not make people more godly or mature or loving or ethical

(Link): Being Equally Yoked: Christian Columnist Dan Delzell Striving to Keep Christian Singles Single Forever

(Link): Another Example of Why the Equally Yoked Teaching is A Joke for Single Christian Women : Baptist Preacher Arrested for Allegedly Fire Bombing Ex Girlfriend’s House While She Was In It

(Link): Lists of More Married Preachers Arrested for Being Rapists or Child Molesters

(Link): Males and Females Raped at Christian College, College Doesn’t Care – Equally Yoked is a Joke

(Link): Christian Single Women: Another Example of Why You Should Abandon the “Be Equally Yoked” Teaching: 21-Y-O Christianity Student, Children’s Minister Charged With Murdering Fiancée He Was to Wed in August; Made It Look Like Suicide

(Link): American Teen Missionary Raped Several Orphan Children in Africa, One As Young As Four – Being Equally Yoked is a Joke

(Link): Christian Host Pat Robertson Tells Christian Woman Who Married Christian Man Who Turned Out to Be Totally Unethical That She has Discernment of a Slug – Single Women: toss Be Equally Yoked teaching in the trash can

(Link): Wife of Preacher Shoots, Kills Him, Recounts Years of Physical and Sexual Abuse– So Much for the Equally Yoked Teaching and the Notion that Christian married sex is Mind Blowing

(Link): Preachers Arrested For, or Accused of, Promoting Prostitution, Rape, Spreading HIV, Child Molesting etc – And Christian Single Women Should Only Consider Marrying So Called Christian Men Why?

Married Father and Baptist Preacher J D Hall – Another Example of How Marriage and Parenthood Does Not Make a Person More Godly or Mature

Married Father and Baptist Preacher J D Hall – Another Example of How Marriage and Parenthood Does Not Make a Person More Godly or Mature

(There is an update at the bottom of this post).

This involves a lot of back story I don’t want to get into because this blog post would be ten pages long.

I am blogging this primarily for adult singles who have felt marginalized or hurt by Christian denominations or churches that treat adult singles as though they have cooties.

I have a somewhat different motivation for blogging about this than other blogs do. There were a few other blogs who addressed the child abuse aspect of the story, that we have an adult (Hall) badgering a teen kid (Braxton Caner) on the internet.

J D Hall is a Calvinist preacher with a blog called “Pulpit and Pen,” a Twitter account, and a group of fan boys who follow him around online who actually refer to themselves as “Pulpiteers.”

At one time, Hall’s groupies were using the #pulpiteer (or “pulpiteers”) hash to follow each other around Twitter. I’m not sure if they still use the “Pulpiteer” label or not. I will continue to refer to them as such.

This group, and a few other people, have a long standing hatred of another guy named Ergun Caner.

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Widow Lived With Husband’s Corpse For 9 Months, Says He Wanted To Be Eaten By Birds

Widow Lived With Husband’s Corpse For 9 Months, Says He Wanted To Be Eaten By Birds

So contra evangelical Christian claims, marriage doesn’t always or necessarily make a person better, more responsible, or more godly. Sounds like marriage makes people go a little loopy, as a matter of fact, if they’re willing to live with a corpse in the house for nine months.

(Note: I am not saying that all married people are nuts or violent. Usually on my site when I make sweeping statements or implications like that, it’s a retort to how a lot of Christians do this same thing towards singles or the childless all the time. Evangelicals and other types of Christians tend to lump ALL adult singles into the group of “lazy, selfish, weird, or loser”.)

(Link): Lafayette widow’s story at odds with official records

(Link): Widow Lived With Husband’s Corpse For 9 Months, Says He Wanted To Be Eaten By Birds

    Ila Solomon, a widow from Indiana, lived with her husband’s corpse 9 months after he died. The body of 88-year-old Gerald “Scooter” Gavan was found in their home on May 3. Solomon is still waiting if she will be charged for keeping her husband’s decomposing body.

    Solomon gave an interview and a tour of her home to RTV6 on Thursday. The 54-year-old widow showed the news team their living room carpet where her husband died.

    When the body was discovered, Solomon insisted that her husband had been dead for only 5 days, but authorities say otherwise. According to Tippecanoe County Coroner Donna Avolt, Gavan had been dead for over 9 months when he was discovered, Indy Star reports.

    According to the law, failure to report a dead body within 3 hours of discovery is considered a Class A misdemeanor, and is punishable by up to one year in jail. In Solomon’s case, it is up to the prosecutor to decide if the widow will be charged.

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Related post:

(Link): Marriage Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread)

Married Utah Woman Teacher Accused of Molesting Teen Students

Married Utah Woman Teacher Accused of Molesting Teen Students

The common misconceptions among conservative Christians is that

    1. Marriage makes a person immune from sexual sin
    2. Marriage makes a person automatically holy, pure, godly, self-less, mature
    3. Married women are dis-interested in sex
    4. Married sex (especially if you are a virgin when you marry) is so “mind blowing” you’ll never be tempted to have sex outside of marriage

Observe how the following story implodes, once more, all these false assumptions.

(Link): MARRIED UTAH TEACHER NOW ACCUSED OF MOLESTING MORE TEENS

    by WARNER TODD HUSTON
    8 Aug 2014, 12:58 PM

    Married Utah school teacher Brianne Altice had already been in trouble for having sexual relations with one of her male teen students, but just as her trial was set to begin, charges that she molested another student were leveled against her.

    Altice, 35, an English teacher at a high school in Kaysville, Utah, had been arrested last October for molesting a teen who was once her student. A jury trial was set for September, but that was canceled when prosecutors filed amended charges accusing her of several more counts connected with the molestation of a second student.

    On July 2, prosecutors added three more first-degree felonies after a young man, who was 17 in 2013, said he also had a sexual relationship with Altice. This case was then added to the original case of a 16-year-old who claimed a sexual relationship with the teacher in 2013.
    Altice now faces four counts of rape and two counts of forcible sodomy.

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Related posts:

(Link): Marriage Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread)

(Link): Groundbreaking News: Women Like Sex (part 1, 2) (articles)

(Link): Christian Stereotypes About Female Sexuality : All Unmarried Women Are Supposedly Hyper Sexed Harlots – But All Married Ones are Supposedly Frigid or Totally Uninterested in Sex

(Link): When Women Wanted Sex Much More Than Men – and how the stereotype flipped

Skeevy, Sexist, Pastor John Piper Response to “Is Oral Sex Okay” And His Commentary on Teens Who Make Out At Night

Skeevy, Sexist, Pastor John Piper Response to “Is Oral Sex Okay”

Oh gross. This comes from sexist wacko John Piper (he was a preacher at one point, I think, but retired a few years ago, unless I am mistaken, but he still writes books and blogs, etc.) who gives permission to women to use the bathroom without getting a man’s permission, and who says women being abused should endure the abuse “for a season.” Go google for it, my friend. I’m not in the mood to back it all up with citations in this post. Google is your friend.

(Link): Is Oral Sex Okay? From John Piper’s Desiring God site

As the Bible does not specifically mention oral sex, and does not even allude to it (unless one wants to get into Rev. Driscoll’s pervy Song of Songs treatment), go ahead and have oral sex.

It’s like the masturbation debate; the Bible is totally silent on the matter, it doesn’t usually involve another person, so go for it, and without guilt.

I mean geeze, people. Some of you who write these preachers are ADULTS.

You are ADULTS and can read the Bible for yourself and make your own decisions about life. Why in the hell are you writing an over the hill (retired?) preacher and weirdo like Piper for sex advice?

Here is part of how Piper responded to the question “Is Oral Sex Okay?”

    I think it is wrong outside marriage. And we can talk about that another time more extensively. But here is the short answer. Why? Oral sex is even more intimate and delicate, it seems, then copulation. And we know this because even married couples are wondering if they should go there. It is as if it is a stage of intimacy that may not even be proper for married people. And so to think it can be an innocent substitute for copulation so people can obey the letter of the law outside marriage is a mirage. That is the first observation.

Read the rest here (if you have the stomach for it).

Where in the holy hell does he get this from,

    Oral sex is even more intimate and delicate, it seems, then copulation.

The Bible does not teach that, by the way. That is entirely Piper’s view or speculation.

In my opinion (and yes, this is only my opinion), I can see the argument that oral sex is EQUALLY intimate to penetration, or that penetration is MORE intimate to. I can see either of those arguments. What I cannot see is how oral sex is “more” intimate than penetration, which is what he’s arguing.

Piper does admit that “I don’t think oral sex is explicitly prohibited in any biblical command. If the Bible pro-scribes it, it would have to be by principle and not by an explicit command.”

I didn’t see too much objectionable in the remainder of his advice, but it’s beyond me why anyone would ask him for advice anymore than (Link): some Americans keep asking Pat Robertson for advice.

Then there was this Piper tweet (link to Tweet):

    Down by the river the teenagers would go to make out. I watched them drive back. They never looked happy. Especially she.

What?

Julie Anne at Spiritual Sounding Board blog (link to blog) reproduced a Tweeted reply to that, which I found to be a good come back:

    by Emily T.
    Maybe they weren’t happy because a creepy old man was watching them.

Indeed.

This was also good:

    Cindy Kunsman
    @JohnPiper Is a perv.
    I knew he was a perv, but this just adds to the confirmations. Does he wear ADIDAS? #AllDayPiperDreamsAboutSex

Parody (hat tip, Julie Anne of Spiritual Sounding Board blog):
(Link): Down By The River music parody

Christians are not obsessed with sexual purity. They are obsessed with sex. Maybe if they actually stood behind sexual purity, we’d not see so many odd ball pronouncements in public from them about… sex.
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Related posts:

(Link): No Christians and Churches Do Not Idolize Virginity and Sexual Purity – Christians Attack and Criticize Virginity Sexual Purity Celibacy / Virginity Sexual Purity Not An Idol

Pervy Preacher from Seattle who teaches men “to objectify women, by his over emphasis of sexualization of women and subservience” (Re Driscoll)

Pervy Preacher from Seattle who teaches men “to objectify women, by his over emphasis of sexualization of women and subservience” (Re Driscoll)

I have blogged on this cretin before. Driscoll is sexist, and anti-singles, both anti male singles and anti female singles.

Driscoll, oddly, out of one side of his mouth, will condemn pornography in some of his sermons or books, but then tell his male church members on other occasions, whether in sermons or in books, that their wives are nothing more than sex blow up dolls, there to do their every sexual bidding, even indulging in sex acts most women do not want or enjoy, such as anal sex, or performing a blow job on their husband.

(That’s right men, most women do not like giving blow jobs, which is one of your seemingly biggest fantasies. Over the span of my entire life, all women I’ve met in person, or have read their musings online, only one or two have said they enjoy performing oral sex on a man. Most women get no pleasure out of it, it grosses them out, and many say it makes them feel like a five dollar crack whore.

I also notice that when writing about marital sex, or sermonizing on it, many conservative male preachers never, ever advise the husbands to perform oral sex on their wives, or perform whatever other sex act… it’s always very selfishly framed in how the woman can meet the man’s sexual needs.)

Mark Driscoll is a married father, and he is a sexual pervert… and yet, Christians insist on portraying or thinking of all older (as in over age 30) never-married, childless men as being homosexuals, over sexed Don Juans, or some other type of sexual deviant.

That Driscoll is on record (in his book on marriage, if I am not mistaken, or was it a sermon?) as saying he and his wife’s marriage was sexless for a few years (or unsatisfactory sexually in some other manner) also does not speak well of the conservative Christian propaganda that married sex is super great, so, if you just wait until you’re married to have sex, there will be fire works in the bedroom all the time.

A long excerpt from
(Link): Inside Mars Hill’s massive meltdown

    by By Stacey Solie
    July 2014

    SEX

    It was also around the mid-2000s that members noticed Driscoll’s growing preoccupation with sex.

    Driscoll also started to preach more about male privilege and sexual entitlement. This had a damaging impact on many marriages, said Rob Thain Smith, who, with Merle, was acting as an informal marriage counselor to many young couples.

    “He created enormous abuse of wives,” Smith said. “He helped young men objectify women, by his over emphasis of sexualization of women and subservience.”

    “The way Driscoll talked, you thought that he was getting it every night. All these men are seeing his hot wife, and are thinking he’s got it made.”

    In Real Marriage, Driscoll bitterly describes a largely sexless marriage, and seems to imply that he’s been acting out all these years because he was sexually frustrated at home.

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Follow Up Part 2 – Reactions by Other Writers to Sexist, Condescending 50 Something Men Who Think They Are Final Arbiters of If Women Are Attractive Past Age of 40 (Re: Esquire Editorial by Junod)

Follow Up Part 2 – Reactions by Other Writers to Sexist, Condescending 50 Something Men Who Think They Are Final Arbiters of If Women Are Attractive Past Age of 40 (Re: Esquire Editorial by Junod)

Original Post:

Follow Up 1:

More backlash:

Note: as to this link below, at the LA Times, the section on the page entitled “It misleads women into thinking they have time” was actually quite sexist. I have chosen to not paste that part of the page in.

That part was written by a Charlotte Allen who argues that all men will always favor 22 year old women over 42 year old women, mostly because most men want to have babies.

I don’t know what rock that woman writer is living under, but women in their 40s still get their periods every month and conceive ((Link): read this page for starters – that is one but several pages I have on this blog noting that lots and lots more women are getting pregnant, some for the first time, over age 40).

I personally never really cared if I had a baby or not, but I think it’s sexist to say that women over 40 are basically unvaluable (to men) because, in the writer’s opinion, they’re all barren (they are not, by the way. A lot of “oops” pregnancies happen to women over 40, because they go off birth control under the mistaken notion “I can no longer get pregnant, or not easily.”)

(Link): What’s so offensive about Esquire’s praise of 42-year-old women?

Excerpts:

    By ALEXANDRA LE TELLIER

    Women don’t need a writer dressed in feminist clothing to define her worth by his own narrow definitions

    Tom Junod set the social web aflame with his article praising 42-year-old women. Never did one think that Esquire, a men’s magazine that’s stayed above the lad mag fray, could enrage so many people. But that it did, with people accusing Junod of sexism.

    “Let’s face it: There used to be something tragic about even the most beautiful forty-two-year-old woman,” Junod begins. Now, he writes, “it may be said that the best thing that forty-two-year-old American men have going for them is forty-two-year-old American women.”

    It might sound like a compliment, but women aren’t buying it.

    … I asked some of our female writers for their thoughts, and here’s what they had to say.

    Where has Junod been?

    … And, men, you now have Esquire’s permission to objectify women in their 40s without being creepy to other men. (But, again, only if the women do Pilates and yoga.) This expands your potential ogling to hundreds, even thousands more women each year.

    Kidding aside, I find the whole premise of the piece to be completely outdated, if it was ever true to begin with. It’s as though Esquire and Junod have been cryogenically frozen for the last 20 to 30 years and woke up to discover this new creature in mass media called the Modern Woman. She’s independent! She’s empowered! She’s still sexy at 40!

    But my biggest complaint is that Junod and Esquire reinforce the sexualization of women in general — the idea that the value of a woman is how much she arouses a man.

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Follow Up – Reactions by Other Writers to Sexist, Condescending 50 Something Men Who Think They Are Final Arbiters of If Women Are Attractive Past Age of 40 (Re: Esquire Editorial by Junod)

Follow Up – Reactions by Other Writers to Sexist Condescending 50 Something Men Who Think They Are Final Arbiters of If Women Are Attractive Past Age of 40 (Re: Esquire Editorial by Junod)

This is a follow up to my post from yesterday,
(Link): Obnoxious, Condescending, Sexist, Pervy Esquire Editorial by 50-Something Year Old Man: “In Praise of 42 Year Old Women” – Condescendingly Reassures 40 Something Women He’d Sex Them Up

Here are other people’s reactions to the insufferable, obnoxious, ageist, and sexist Junod editorial on Esquire.

(Link): Older women don’t need mansplaining boner prose in praise of their sexiness

    by Jessica Valenti
    theguardian.com,
    Friday 11 July 2014 07.15

    An homage in a men’s magazine to the ‘carnal appeal’ of 42-year old women is no great win for feminism

    Breaking news! Men’s magazines have determined that it is not abnormal for men to ogle and objectify women over the age of 40! Women of the world, feminism has won! Rejoice!

    Or not.

    To kick off its annual women issue, Esquire magazine on Thursday published an essay called “In Praise of 42-Year Old Women”, assuring the normally-depressed old hags that dudes (or at least the writer Tom Junod) still want to bang them. Junod – who has an “interesting” history writing about women – writes that, while “[t]here used to be something tragic about even the most beautiful forty-two-year-old woman”, they now have “carnal appeal”.

    — start Junod quote
    A few generations ago, a woman turning forty-two was expected to voluntarily accept the shackles of biology and convention; now it seems there is no one in our society quite so determined to be free. Conservatives still attack feminism with the absurd notion that it makes its adherents less attractive to men; in truth, it is feminism that has made forty-two-year-old women so desirable.
    — end Junod quote

    Protip to male writers gorging on self-congratulation as they deem grown woman fuckable: leave feminism out of it.

    Junod, careful to qualify that the 42-year-old women worthy of praise are those who “have armored themselves with yoga and Pilates even as they joke about the spectacle”, seems to believe that he has done women a great kindness with this piece. But when he writes that 42-year-old women are “superior” to men and that “the best thing that that forty-two-year-old American men have going for them is forty-two-year-old American women”, he does so with the same benevolence of a lazy husband praising his wife’s laundry skills. (Or financial skills, in his case.)

    It’s easy for men to call women “superior” in a society that privileges men at nearly every turn: they’re not the ones being grossly objectified under the guise of a compliment.

    Certainly, women over 40 deserve more reverence and respect than they typically get – and I’d love to see women of all ages receive that … outside of women’s magazines and day-time talk shows. We live in a culture, often driven by the media and Hollywood, that paints women over 25 as desperate and pathetic: we’re considered past our prime, never to be “nubile” (a word worth banning from our collective consciousness if there ever was one) again!

    But the validation that women seek is generally not of the erection-producing variety. It’s very nice and all that writers are catching on that women of all ages can be sexy, but framing that as an amazing new discovery makes it more about men than it is about us (which feels about par for the course).

    For example, in a companion piece on Esquire’s website, writer Stephen Marche urges us all – in a slightly less cringe-inducing way than Junod’s overwrought boner-prose – to retire the word MILF. He writes that “there’s another explanation for the rise of 42, one that’s even more revelatory. Maybe it isn’t fashion at all. Maybe it’s what men wanted all along.”

    Right. But maybe, just maybe, what men want isn’t – and doesn’t always have to be – the damn point.

(Link): BREAKING: Esquire Declares 42-Year-Old Women Now F-ckable by Tracy Moore

    Why, used to be, a woman at the age of 42 could hardly be glanced at, much less taken to bed and ravaged shame-free in broad daylight. No longer. Esquire has sent word across all channels that 42-year-old women have been removed from the Do Not Bang list and are no longer off-limits to respectable men. In other news, FIRE SALE AT CHICO’S.

    Forty-two year-old broads everywhere can now pack up their loose but crisp linen shirts, let their slightly graying hair down, and select their finest modest but sexy cocktail dress and get back out there.

    Behold the clarion call courtesy of author Tom Junod:

    —- start Junod quote
    Let’s face it: There used to be something tragic about even the most beautiful forty-two-year-old woman. With half her life still ahead of her, she was deemed to be at the end of something—namely, everything society valued in her, other than her success as a mother. If she remained sexual, she was either predatory or desperate; if she remained beautiful, what gave her beauty force was the fact of its fading. And if she remained alone… well, then God help her.
    — end Junod quote

    We’ve all seen those women — you know, the beautiful aging ones who just seemed so pathetic for existing at all. Also, he is right, I can’t think of more forceful beauty than the fading kind. The not-fading kind is great — don’t get me wrong — but if you think about it, it’s just not quite as potent, all said. However, a hint of beauty once there is just, well, sickening. Really sad, too.

    The only thing more ludicrous than Tom Junod’s feelings about 42-year-olds are the misguided assumptions that lurk beneath them… like a 42-year-old woman clawing at the icy surface above her, desperate to escape the tomb of her old age and fading beauty, trapped in part because she acknowledges that icy cold water could significantly invigorate her appearance.

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