Emergent Christian Guy Says Christians Need to “Celebrate Pre Marital Sex” (Fornication)

Emergent Christian Guy Says Christians Need to “Celebrate Pre Marital Sex” (Fornication)

For anyone reading this post, I would strongly encourage you to read a previous post I wrote:
(Link): ❈ Why So Much Fornication – Because Christians Have No Expectation of Sexual Purity
Here’s what caught my attention the other day:



    “A new sexual ethic for Christians is desperately needed. I for one am going to work on that. Will you join me?” – Tony Jones

    Tony Jones is asking all of Christendom to join him in a quest to lift the moral outrage we Christians seem to have over premarital sex. Yes, that’s right.

    Apparently the Bride of Christ has had its collective undies in a bunch over this for centuries, and we need to stop, and just do it. I’ll share more from his blog post about this titled, (Link): Is It Time for Christians to Celebrate Pre-Marital Sex? in just a moment. (Warning: You might be disturbed by the photo he used for this article. Just saying.)

    But first, you’re probably asking, who is Tony Jones and where does he get the authority to challenge God about anything?

    Tony’s bio tells you pretty much all you need to know about where his authority comes from. You can find this over on the Patheos Progressive Christian Channel [omit bio]…

    On to the article. He spends a moment or two gushing over two authors who lament at how unfair it is for Christians to have to wait until marriage to have sex.

      “Human beings are sexual beings. There’s no way around it,” says Jones. “And the fact that, in the West, the age of marriage has been steadily creeping upward means that our bodies are ready for sex long before we’re walking down the aisle. In the U.S., men get married at 29 and women at 27, on average. And we reach puberty a good decade-and-a-half before that.”

    He then gives a nod to Esquire Magazine writer John H. Richardson, who opines,

      “I want to suggest that sex, be it adulterous or premarital or deviant or polyamorous, is a good thing, not a bad thing, and that sex itself is the moment of grace. And that our sterile idea of perfection is the actual sin. To start with the subject on the table, adultery is a brave rebellion against the invisible prison we build for ourselves.

    And then this clincher from Jones, who tells us that we should stop pretending and accept that our children are probably doing it anyway:

      To pretend that those are two virgins walking down the aisle, approaching the coital bed for the first time is uncommonly naive. And it seems to me that Jesus was lots of things, but he wasn’t naive to the world in which he lived.
      He did, however, both preach and live prophetically within that culture. He didn’t take it as it was, without pushing back against it. In his day, it was that tax collectors were ostracized and that men shouldn’t pluck heads of grain on the Sabbath. Today, sex is everywhere. It’s unavoidable.

    Does it matter a hill of beans what I think or what Tony Jones thinks? Nope. It only matters what God says. His breathed-out word, the Bible, promotes complete abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

    1 Corinthians 7:2 says, “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In other words, marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality, as many people cannot control themselves and should get married in order to fulfill their passions in a moral way. GotQuestions.org puts it this way:

      Since 1 Corinthians 7:2 clearly includes sex before marriage in the definition of sexual immorality, all of the Bible verses that condemn sexual immorality as being sinful also condemn sex before marriage as sinful. Sex before marriage is included in the biblical definition of sexual immorality.
      There are numerous Scriptures that declare sex before marriage to be a sin (Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7).

–End Quotes from Stand Up For the Truth.com Site–

I left a comment on the guy’s (Jones) page but it has not been approved to appear yet. Here’s what I said in reply, under the name “christianpundit”:

    There’s nothing “naive” about it, but it’s quite presumptuous and short sighted to assume or imply that all Christians are having sex before marriage. I’m in my early 40s, a Christian woman with a healthy sex drive, but I am still a virgin – I’m waiting until I get married to have sex, as are plenty of other over- age- 30 Christians. I don’t care how strong your sexual urges are, they do not have to be acted upon. You can control your sexual behavior.
    It’s simply not true that all Christians are failing to live up to “virgin until marriage” biblical ideal, as your article seems to imply. One problem of your piece is that you assume every one is ignoring the Bible’s stances against fornication (pre-marital sex) and to live up to it, and as though many people ignoring the instructions makes it null and void.
    The commands for sexual purity still stands, regardless if people are ignoring it or not, or if some are presenting the topic of sexuality purity in a less than sensitive manner.

    That some young women feel bad after hearing a “used chewing gum” [or spit in a glass of water] lecture is unfortunate but is not grounds for tossing out biblical imperatives for both men and women remaining virgins until marriage.

I have no idea if the Jones guy will approve my message to appear on (Link): his page.

—Related Material, Other Sites—

❉ (Link): Radio Show: Tony Jones Pre Marital Sex View – A Rebuttal

(Jones discussion is in last third or fourth of Fighting for the Faith / Pirate Radio Show; aired Feb 2013; show title: “Fun Factor”)

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❉ (Link): Pat Robertson Expects Men to Commit Sexual Sin (and it’s not the first time)

❉ (Link): Douglas Wilson and Christian Response FAIL to Sexual Sin – No Body Can Resist Sex – supposedly – Re Celibacy

(Link): The Christian and Non Christian Phenomenon of Virgin Shaming and Celibate Shaming

❉ (Link): No Christians and Churches Do Not Idolize Virginity and Sexual Purity

❉ (Link): When Adult Virginity and Adult Celibacy Are Viewed As Inconvenient or As Impediments

❉ (Link): Preachers Who Use Strippers, Hula Girls, Topless Hunky Men, and Strip Poles During Church Services and Give Sex Diplomas to Teens – Yes, Really

❉ (Link): Conservative Christian Sexist Immature Imbecilic Pressure on Women to Look Pretty and Skinny and to Put Out Sexually