Astonishing: Evangelical Baptist Marriage Idolater David E. Prince Wants to Know Why Evangelical Baptists Are Not Worshipping Marriage More

Astonishing: Evangelical Baptist – David E Prince – Wants to Know Why Evangelical Baptists Are Not Worshipping Marriage More

Individuals are saved via faith in Jesus Christ; the Bible says nothing of saving or redeeming cultures or marriage.

They Bible does not say that individuals are saved via marriage, neither does the Bible say culture is saved by marriage.

The Bible does not talk about “defending marriage,” or say that doing so is a necessity, or that Christians should be excessively preoccupied with doing so, as so many Baptists and evangelicals are these days.

The Bible does not say Jesus Christ died on the cross to save marriage.

I say all that because of stinky, horrid editorials such as the one featured in this post by David E Prince, who elevate marriage to the Gospel itself, when the Bible does no such thing.

This (see link to editorial on Baptist Press by David E. Prince, farther below) is another editorial bemoaning the lack of early marriage among evangelicals, another Christian who feels that marriage “reflects the Gospel” (as if singlehood does not), and who wonders why evangelical Baptists are not idolizing marriage more than they are.

Honestly. I cannot make stuff this up.

Only a marriage-worshipping Christian, who is probably married himself, can possibly be blind to the fact that evangelicals and other conservative Christians are already living in a sea of non stop pro-marriage sermons, books, conferences, and TV shows and have been living in a marriage-obsessed culture for over 20 years.

This guy thinks that Baptists and evangelicals are not worshipping marriage enough.

Wowzers, this guy is completely clueless.

As I have blogged about here for the past two or three years, Evangelicals, Baptists, Neo Reformed, Fundamentalists, Quiverfull, Reconstructions, and other Christians, have already made a huge idol out of marriage and parenting, to the point that those who are childless, child free, or single (widows, never married, divorced) are either
1. ignored by most Christians or
2. ridiculed, criticized or put down for being single / virgins (when not being ignored).

Bigots (“bigots” referring to Christians who are so rabidly pro marriage to the point singles and singlehood are disparaged) such as the guy, Prince, who wrote this cringe- inducing editorial assume the only solution for the rising tide of divorce and such is to harp on marriage even more, an attitude that Christian writer Candice Watters also espouses, and which I eviscerated her for in a post here (“Candice Watters and Boundless Blog Gets It Wrong / Christian prolonged singlehood singleness singles ignored”).

Before I proceed, I want to mention that:
Nowhere does the Bible teach that God gives anyone a “gift of marriage,” or “a gift of singleness,” or a “gift of celibacy”

Why do I mention that?

Because marriage idolaters such as the guy who wrote the page to which I refer will often brush away their marriage idolatry, when brought to their attention, by a mere wave of the hand with,
“Well, of course, if God called you to singleness, that is fine; I don’t mean to suggest YOU are in error for being single!”

The problem is, God does not call anyone to singleness or “gift” them with it, and a blase dismissal such as that (ie, the aforementioned “singleness is fine if God has gifted you with it” rhetoric) does nothing to negate the fact the one making the comment is still in fact WORSHIPPING MARRIAGE and is none the less making singleness out to be a second class station in life.

Evangelicals, Baptists, and other varieties of conservative Christians, have been hand-wringing and wailing about divorce, pre-marital sex, abortion, and such, in addition to making every other book, blog, and sermon about, in praising, the wonder of marriage, for over two decades now, and it has done nothing, bupkiss, nada, to stem the tide of divorce or fornication in larger culture and among Christians.

You know the definition of insanity: it’s doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Okay, then, the constant harping by Christians about the gloomy fate of marriage has done nothing to increase marriage rates, or to decrease adultery, divorce, or fornication.

So, maybe it’s time for a new strategy by Christians, such as, oh, helping adult singles? Or, is it just easier to sit on your ass writing “woe is the state of marriage today!” editorials?

Despite the fact that the Bible does not say all Christian adults will marry or should marry, nor does it say that God commands all to marry, nor does Scripture say that staying single is sin or failure, and,

Despite the fact the Scriptures warn against idolizing the (nuclear) family, marriage, or having children, and,

Despite the fact that the Bible actually discourages marriage (in a sense) and esteems singleness by saying things such as,

    1 Corinthians 7:

    Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.

    Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy.

    26 Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for a man to remain as he is. 27 Are you pledged to a woman? Do not seek to be released.

    Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife. 28 But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned.

    But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.

And despite the fact Jesus Christ warned against making too much of marriage, nuclear family, and children (in Matthew 10):

    For I have come to turn
    “‘a man against his father,
    a daughter against her mother,
    a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
    36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
    37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

-yes, despite all this biblical favor for singleness and warning of making too much of marriage and family, this Prince guy writes this hogwash:

(Link): FIRST-PERSON: An evangelical war on marriage? by David Prince

Excerpts from the editorial – Fair Use; using quotes from editorial only to comment upon it (and there are additional thoughts by me below these excerpts):

    LOUISVILLE, Ky. (BP) —

      “Lord, thank You for the life of this beautiful little girl… Lord, give her a future husband who loves You and serves You and will protect, provide and love her as Christ loves the church. In Jesus’ name, Amen.”

    As I lifted my head in that hospital room after praying for the family and their newborn baby, I carefully gave the child back to her mother.

    I saw the grandparents who were in the room glaring at me with astonishment on their faces.

    The grandfather spoke up and said, “What kind of prayer was that? Why would you already be talking about a husband? She may not even get married! Who knows what she will become?”

    These grandparents were not liberal progressives. They were Bible Belt conservative evangelicals who would heartily defend every word of the Bible as God’s inerrant Word and would be appalled at the notion of legalizing same-sex marriage.

    The moment hit me like a ton of bricks. Without a doubt, the proponents of same-sex marriage have lost an understanding of what marriage really is — but, in alarming ways, so have evangelicals.

    The end result of the widespread legalization of same-sex marriage will not be a broadening of the definition of marriage but the destruction of the institution.

    We evangelicals must acknowledge that our own failure to communicate the meaning and Gospel significance of marriage has hastened the cultural confusion and decline of the sacred institution.

    … Christian marriage, however, is a Gospel-magnifying, self-sacrificial commitment that teaches us what love is over time as we practice long-term fidelity.

    …Why? Evangelicals must be willing to face the reality that what we have taught them in our churches about marriage as self-fulfillment provides them no logical reason to oppose same-sex marriage.

    …How can evangelicals effectively defend marriage in the culture when we no longer practice and advocate Christian marriages in our churches?

    … The Creator of the universe pronounced that it was “not good” (Genesis 2:18) that man should be alone…

    …The apostle Paul declared that this marriage union was created to be a living picture of the mysterious one-flesh Gospel union between Christ and the church (Ephesians 5:32).

    …Being pro-marriage will begin with evangelicals who stop saying it is good that man should be alone until his 30s after he has a good education, career and individual achievements…
    …David E. Prince is pastor of preaching and vision at Ashland Avenue Baptist Church in Louisville, Ky., professor of Christian preaching at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

    [at the bottom of the original page:]
    © Copyright 2013 Baptist Press. All Rights Reserved.

In that piece, the author said he asked God to send the baby girl a Christian husband later in her life.

Dude, if that is all it took for a Christian woman to get a husband, I would have had one YEARS ago. (Though as of late, I am agnostic and not wholly a Christian any longer.)

My mother also prayed for me that God send me a husband years ago, and I remain never-married at age 40-something.

There are many other Christian women age 35+ who are in the same boat as I am: they prayed and trusted God for a spouse, but never got one.

If you are expecting prayer or God to deliver anyone a spouse, you are totally mistaken. Praying and faith in God does not bring anyone a spouse.

The author said,

    Christian marriage, however, is a Gospel-magnifying, self-sacrificial commitment that teaches us what love is over time as we practice long-term fidelity.

Singles are also expected by God to “practice fidelity” (ie, to God).

As far as sexual fidelity, I’m a 40-something woman, and I’ve never had sexual intercourse, for I have never married. How’s that for “fidelity” (ie, being faithful to God with one’s sexuality by abstaining from unmarried sex)?

How dare this Prince person make it sound as though “fidelity” is something only married couples do or that it is a trait that can only be developed within marriage (as this blog attests with many links to many news stories, married Christians often have affairs, murder their spouses, or become porn addicts, so much for marriage teaching people “fidelity”).

As to this observation:

    Why? Evangelicals must be willing to face the reality that what we have taught them in our churches about marriage as self-fulfillment provides them no logical reason to oppose same-sex marriage.


As I have explained time and again on this blog, one reason homosexuality has made in-roads in evangelical churches is because they do not support single, adult virgins who are past age 25.

Christians only pay lip service to supporting celibacy and virginity, and at that, only to kids under age 25. If you are an adult virgin past 25, there is no support for you from churches!

If you truly believe in virginity until marriage, then SUPPORT THOSE CHRISTIANS WHO ARE ACTUAL VIRGINS.


If you truly support marriage, then help single women (over age 30 and older) who want marriage to get married! Set me up on dates with single men my age! Stop bitching about the 20 year olds not being married, and help the 30, 40, and 50 year olds get married!

Again, not rocket science, but your average evangelical or Baptist is a total judgmental or unhelpful jerkhole on this score and will tell you trash like,

    – “Nope, cannot help you get a spouse, because that will be turning church into a “meat market”!”

    – “No, will not pray for you a spouse because we should just leave it up to God, if he wants to send you a husband he will send you one
    [with no human involvement at all – sure pray and ask for a job or healing if you need that, but never, ever pray for a spouse]”

    – “Be content in your singleness!”

Christians will give you cliches or criticism when you ask them for help in getting married.

They claim they want to see Christians get married, but they really do not, because they will not lift a finger to help you get married!

Ironically, all the hyper-focus on ‘marriage and having kids’ chips away at traditional marriage, and that is this guy’s solution for conquering the homosexual gains made in Christian culture, or in increasing marriage rates. I have explained the reasons why that is flawed thinking more fully in older posts, so I shall not get into that now.

Prince actually wrote:

    How can evangelicals effectively defend marriage in the culture when we no longer practice and advocate Christian marriages in our churches?

What in the holy hell is he talking about?? What planet is he from?

Preachers and Christians in churches already discuss marriage way too much! Churches don’t need more sermons on marriage, they need LESS.

Sermons about how awesome and godly marriage is, or how to have a great marriage, are the topic of every other sermon by preachers these days (see for example , (Link): preacher Kerry Shook).

Braying on and on in sermons, blogs, pod casts, and books about how swell marriage is, and how those horrible feminists, homosexuals want to ruin marriage, is ALL evangelicals ever talk about (when they are not throwing fits about abortion or homosexuality).

Evangelicals and Baptists and other strains of conservative Christians NEVER SHUT UP about MARRIAGE or in DEFENDING MARRIAGE.

Marriage is one of the only thing Baptists and evangelicals ever talk about (when they are not yakking about their other pet topics, e.g., abortion, the supposed evils of feminism, and homosexual marriage).

Regarding this comment by Prince:

    … The Creator of the universe pronounced that it was “not good” (Genesis 2:18) that man should be alone…

While wanting to get married is not wrong or selfish, that Bible verse about ‘it not being good to be alone’ is not a commandment to marry, and is not exclusive to marriage.

One reason of several the Bible recommends that Christians fellowship with each other is to stave off loneliness.

Jesus Christ knew that not all people in every culture down to our present are able to marry or have a marital partner for decades; I’m sure He must have forseen situations where a person’s spouse would drop dead of a heart attack at age 43, leaving them all alone; or a situation in which a man would end up divorced at age 34; or a woman like me, who despite wanting marriage, never met a partner and remained a lifelong single.

God said he puts the lonely, the widows, the singles “into families,” but that is spiritual families per New Testament, not flesh and blood ones (ie, the unmarried, widowed, orphans, would be ‘adopted’ into Christian families on basis of their relation to Christ, not that they are related to such families by flesh and blood).

Churches, though, idolize the nuclear family and don’t meet the needs of adults singles, which includes things such as, but not limited to, married families fellowshipping with adult singles, inviting them over for meals, and the like.

As Ben Patterson put it, (regarding the insane, undue emphasis upon marriage and having children by evangelicals, Baptists, and other Christians – source):

    The evangelical [Christian] market is now experiencing a glut of books, seminars, films, and magazine articles on the subject of the family and how to enhance it. If that phenomenon is a reliable indicator, and I think it is, then we seem to be emulating our Mormon antagonists.

    Increasingly, evangelical Christians are being encouraged to live as though they believed the family to be the chief focus of Christian living. We are becoming the victims of a disease my friend calls “creeping Mormonism.”

    Case in point: I’ve lost track of the number of times my parishioners have told me of a decision they have made on the basis of the following priorities:
    1) God,
    2) Family,
    3) Job.
    “Those are the Big Three,” they smile and say. “Keep those straight and you’ll keep your life straight before God.”

    I can’t argue with number one, but I do have questions about numbers two and three, especially | number two. My most urgent question is “Where does the church fit into this scheme?” The New Testament has much to say about the church and little to say about the family.

    What it does have to say about the family is always in relation to the church-”God’s household,” the “family of believers” (Ephesians 2:19; Galatians 6:10). The most prominent New Testament passage that deals with the family is in Ephesians 5:22 through 6:4.

    There Paul’s instructions follow a lengthy discussion of church life keynoted by the command for the Ephesians to bear “with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit, to the end that the church may be built up” (4:2-3, 12). The subject of the family arises much later as illustrative of one of the several ways that unity and love in the church should manifest themselves.

    As Don Williams points out in his book The Apostle Paul and Women in the Church, the New Testament order is to see family life as flowing out of the life of the church, not vice versa. The church doesn’t need the family, the family needs the church. The family must be planted firmly in the soil of a vital Christian community to bear the fruit it was meant to bear.

    The current focus on the family continually misses this crucial point. The most sacrosanct reason that can now be given for turning down a position of service in the church is that “It would take away time I need to give to my family.” Say that, and the discussion is over, the question is laid to rest, and mouths are shut.

    Another question I have is “Where does the world fit into this order of priorities?” More than once the command to go into all the world and make disciples has put a strain on family life. So has the call to be hospitable to strangers, visit the sick, feed the hungry, and clothe the naked.

    But today, Christians can avoid those problematic areas of discipleship in the name of sustaining the family life. It is becoming increasingly easy to justify extravagant expenditures on vacations, recreational vehicles, land home improvements because it helps to build up the family.

    The truth of the matter is that the family has become a convenient excuse for turning our backs on other people. We want to be left alone to cultivate our own little patch of ground, and we baptize that desire by appealing to an alleged God-ordained set of priorities. There is nothing distinctly Christian about a strong family. Buddhists have them, secular humanists have them, and, I presume, even the Mafia has them.

    I also have a question about where single people fit into all of this. Nearly one-third of our population will be single by 1987 [by 2013, that figure has gone up to 44% – that is, 44% of Americans over the age of 18 are single]. If churches reflect this demographic in the least, a substantial number of Christians will find themselves outside the most acceptable arena for discipleship. Many do now.

    Granted, that figure of one-third single should be some cause for alarm, since it appears that more and more people are single for bad or tragic reasons: divorce, fear, selfishness, and inability to commit. Nevertheless, the avenues for the pursuit of holiness must be broadened in the minds of evangelicals to include the single. After all, God’s supreme will for us all is holiness, not matrimony. Marriage was made for people, not people for marriage.

    My last question is “How does the family itself fit in with all of this?” How well is it doing in the number two spot, just below God? Can it bear the weight of responsibility and expectation placed upon it?

    I think the family, especially the nuclear family, would do a lot better if it were nudged down the list a bit, or at least connected more strongly to a larger community-the church. We tend to read into the Bible’s statements on the family a lot of twentieth-century assumptions.

    The biblical family was large, with a father, mother, sons, daughters, grandparents, other kinsmen, and aliens or sojourners. Marriage itself was a convenant between two families, not just two people.

    In other words, a lot more people were intimately involved in the arrangement than usually are today. Jesus indicated that becoming a Christian would increase the number of people involved a hundredfold (Matthew 19 29).

    We expect too much of our families. They need help. It is true that the family is a God-ordained institution. It is true that the family remains the best way the world has yet seen to produce civilized human beings.

    But it can’t do it well without the extended family of the household of God. If anything, the family needs to be saved from itself, at least as it is now being conceived of in the minds of many evangelicals.

Regarding this comment by Prince:

    …The apostle Paul declared that this marriage union was created to be a living picture of the mysterious one-flesh Gospel union between Christ and the church (Ephesians 5:32).

And singleness is also a picture of the union between God and man, as Christ said there will be no marrying in heaven, all will be as the angels.

This means unmarried 40 year old virgins, such as me, are a picture of what Christians will look like in Heaven.

Implying that marriage is the only relationship that reflects God or the Godhead, or is the best illustration of it, is incorrect.

Regarding this comment by Prince:

    …Being pro-marriage will begin with evangelicals who stop saying it is good that man should be alone until his 30s after he has a good education, career and individual achievements…

This is a view point derived from secular American culture, not the Bible. No where does the Bible say that one should marry by age 25, or before establishing a career.

The Bible has very little to say about marriage, about how one should marry, when, and to whom, and where to find a spouse.

The only topic the Bible really gets into about marriage is concerning boundaries for those already married, ie, how the husband is to treat the wife with love, and such.

Nowhere does the Bible say it is wrong or bad to never marry, or to marry the first time by age 40 or 50, or to never have kids with one’s spouse, or to put off marriage for seeking higher education – to argue otherwise is to merely argue your personal preferences about marriage back into the biblical text.

Christians: stop making an idol out of marriage, the nuclear family, and children.

The Bible supports singleness and no where commands anyone to marry and certainly not to marry by any particular age.

Wanting to get married is not wrong or sinful, but Christians who make their opinions about marriage (such as all should marry, or all should marry by age 25) on par with a “Thus saith the Lord” type command, or are acting as such, or are implying as such, are in gross error for it.

Marrying very young is not a guarantee of a lasting bond. Plenty of people who marry young go on to divorce later (see links on this blog to articles about that).

Getting married – and getting married early – does not mature people, make them more responsible or godly, nor does it make people sexually pure (see links on this blog for examples).

Unfortunately, the Baptist Press does not appear to permit comments below articles and editorials, otherwise I would have left a link to this blog page, or at least a few comments correcting Prince’s unbiblical views on marriage.

If I can find Prince’s Twitter handle or e-mail (one source has: @davideprince), I would be happy to send him a link to this post. Somebody needs to; the dude is living in a Marriage Idolatry Bubble.
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