Married Reformed Baptist Preacher Indicted On Multiple Child Sex Abuse Counts and His Reformed Buddies Are Ticked This is Being Discussed Online by Other Christians
Warning: This post contains a few crass terms or salty language. There is an update below, and a new link or two.
Dec 27, 2016 update, from “Thou Art The Man” blog:
According to different sources I’ve read here, there, and around the internet, this guy who is in trouble for alleged child sex abuse, Tom Chantry, is married, a pastor, he worked at a church, and later worked at a Christian school of some kind, and he has some children of his own (though I am not clear if these are his biological kids or kids by his wife’s previous marriage – I think she may have been married before).
I’m not sure if am understanding correctly, but I think this Chantry guy may have been married twice. I might have that wrong – he might only have the one marriage.
Christians will often tell single Christians that they must abide by the “equally yoked” teaching, which they say means a single Christian can marry only another Christian.
I see no purpose in that restriction, since, first of all, it’s impractical (single female evangelicals out-number the male ones), and secondly, there is no difference overall, say, in behavior, between a professing Christian man and ordinary Non-Christian men.
I cannot think of any reason a normal, sane single Christian woman would want to marry, or stay married to, a professing Christian man who is a child molester.
News items like this also go to show that marriage does not make a person more sexually pure, ethical, godly, mature, or loving.
There is nothing intrinsic about marriage which causes a person to be more moral than someone who is not – if there were, I doubt the Bible would tell us humanity’s only “cure” for sin was Jesus Christ. The Bible would prescribe marriage for sin if marriage could “cure” anyone, but it does not.
Many conservative Christians continue to hold this attitude, and even to publish blog posts or give sermons, that suggest that there is something wrong or flawed with any adult being single past the age of 25 or 30. Christians continue to behave as though marriage is some sort of magical elixir that makes a person responsible, mature, godly, and loving.
Lastly, that even a perverted, gross, deviant alleged child molester is capable of getting married should also put to bed at long last the other conservative or evangelical Christian common teaching that God requires all single adults to be perfect, or “in shape,” before he will reward them with a spouse.
When we keep seeing (Link): so many stories of married Christian men who are arrested for child molesting, domestic violence, and all manner of other terrible things, reveals a person does not have to earn some level of perfection before God will permit that person to have a spouse.
To start, here is a news story about Chantry – with more commentary and more links below (there are other angles to this story):
A few excerpts:
by Scott Orr, Nov 26, 2016
PRESCOTT – A minister in the Baptist church, who left the area 10 years ago, has been indicted on multiple counts accusing him of sexually molesting children in 1995, 1996, and 1998 to 2001 while he was pastor of a church in Prescott.
Thomas Jonathan Chantry, 46, faces five counts of molestation of a child, related to two minors, and three counts of aggravated assault on three separate minors as well.
One alleged victim, now an adult, came forward to Prescott Police and, according to a police report, when Chantry became a pastor at Miller Valley Baptist Church, Chantry told his parents that he wanted to tutor the victim, then “approximately 9 or 10 years old,” privately in his church office.
The parents consented, and the victim claims that, during his twice-weekly hourly meetings, Chantry would spank him, “grope him, rub him, and make him sit on his lap,” the report said.
….According to the Christ Reformed Baptist Church of Hale’s Corners, Wisconsin, website, where he is listed as Pastor, Chantry moved to Arizona after finishing his seminary studies in California, and stayed for five years. He next moved to Washington and then taught at a Christian school in the Chicago area for four years, before moving to the Milwaukee suburb of Waukesha in 2006.
That’s where he was arrested in July, on a warrant taken out by Prescott Police.
(( read the rest of that article here ))
So, according to these news reports I’m seeing, it looks as though this married, Reformed Baptist preacher guy was fondling children.
However, Chantry was also an occasional guest author and frequent poster at some site called (Link): Pyromanics (a.k.a. “Team Pyro“), a Christian-themed blog whose aesthetics look like they are still stuck in the year 2002. There are several different writers at that blog.
I had visited the Pyro blog a few times before, in years past.
Ad hominem alert (oh yes, I freely admit this is ad hominem): The guys behind the Pyromaniac blog come off as incredibly condescending, smug, pricks – and far more concerned with what they consider orthodoxy (correct doctrine / belief ) than they are orthopraxy (correct behavior).
The Apostle Paul warned about guys like those at Team Pyro who want to debate or pontificate (Link): non-stop about theology or who (Link): place doctrine above people’s needs, feelings, and well-being.
There’s a guy who used to (perhaps still does?) participate at the Pyro blog by the name of Frank Turk.
Somehow, and I don’t know how, because I wasn’t there to see it unfold, Turk got involved in all this Chantry kerfuffle, and a Twitter war ensued (and later the fighting was taken to various blogs).
From what I’ve seen of this Turk guy over the years, he has the mentality of an argumentative, condescending, and bratty 13 year old teen-aged girl.
Turk is the kind of guy who I think regularly Googles his own name. I would not be surprised if he eventually finds this post and will feel tempted to leave a comment telling me to kiss off.
Guys like him won’t give folks like me the time of day other than yelling at me, though. Turk comes across as one of those terribly narrow-minded Cretins who won’t seriously consider a person’s points unless they agree with him completely on every theological and social issue.
Turk basically admitted as such in (Link): a long Tweet he made:
This is my second-to-last tweet ever:
One of the things that I have learned in the last 48 hours is that the so-called “survivors blogs” don’t care if their allies and followers are advocates for abortion, normalization of homosexuality, euthanasia, or any other immoral practice — as long as they say “great post” to their accusations and endorse ever slander and absurd interpolation of the things these blogs are obsessively curious about.
I don’t know what bubble Turk is living in that he only apparently chooses to associate with other white, male, Reformed Christians.
I myself am politically and socially conservative but don’t mind being friends with people who hold diverging views from my own.
Turk apparently missed the part of the Bible where the Pharisees routinely hounded Jesus for hanging out with sinners like the tax collectors and prostitutes.
Jesus was okay with associating with the “advocates for abortion, normalization of homosexuality” and so on.
Did Jesus necessarily agree with abortion or homosexuality and so on? Probably not. But he didn’t just brush them off and avoid them as though they had cooties, either, as Turk seems to feel or assume he did.
Turk sounds like a real humorless and judgmental dill-hole. (I’m no fun at parties myself but that’s because I’m an introvert who generally loathes social activities.)
In the past few days, Turk has become overly defensive of his buddy, Tom Chantry, the alleged kid-diddler.
Turk, who is apparently one of the moderators or writers at the Team Pyro site, has taken it upon himself to hide a guest post once written by Chantry at the Pyromaniacs (Team Pyro) blog – here is a copy of that post via the Internet Archive site (aka Wayback Machine):
THE POST BY CHANTRY THAT TURK DOESN’T WANT YOU TO READ
(Link): Open Letter to James MacDonald by Pastor Tom Chantry (as told to Frank Turk) – that post is dated Oct 5, 2011
Here is how Turk opens that blog post:
Before we start today’s letter, a little introduction is in order. It’s a guest-written letter by one of PyroManiac’s most-diligent and insightful readers – Pastor Tom Chantry. He’s in fact my new favorite internet personality…
In the rest of this guest post, Chantry mentions how he worked at Christian schools:
…I spent four years of the interim between my pastorates teaching in (Link): a Christian school well-known to you.
In other words, I spent four years among kids whose religious background was in your church – a position that was both challenging and distressing.
Knowing what I know about Chantry now, it makes my skin crawl to think this guy worked around children and teen-agers.
Chantry goes on to tell MacDonald in this open letter that children from Christian families who attended the Christian schools he worked for knew little about the Gospel:
Many of those kids had no more idea of the basic facts of the gospel or of its implications for sinners than do the members of the remotest tribes in places American Christians still think of as “mission fields.”
[Chantry describes giving his Christian students a writing assignment in which they were to write about what happened during their last visit to church on Sunday. The students wrote of having whipped-cream eating contests and throwing pies at youth leaders during church hours]
…I wondered what such children could know of the gospel. Another writing assignment asked, “What does ‘being a Christian’ mean to you?” The kids said a lot about going to youth group and having a good time, but they rarely mentioned the cross.
Well, you know, a big argument can be made that an adult man who fondles children also does not know the Gospel, either.
I think I’m also on pretty strong ground when I say “being a Christian” means exposing child sexual abuse and NOT sexually abusing children.
And, hypocrite that he is, Chantry also wrote this in the Pyro post:
This experience sent me back to the pastorate with a sober appreciation of what it means to be accountable for souls – particularly for the young souls who are brought to my church and raised under my pastoral care. Is it not my business to be certain that they have at the very least been confronted with the realities of sin and its only cure?
….It is an easy thing for me to know the children in my congregation – children whom I see and with whom I interact on a regular basis. I understand my advantages, and it is my business to make something of them.
… If there is even the possibility that there are lost souls in your youth groups who equate Christianity with pie fights and pious advice, don’t you think your congregation could survive the comforts of the worship center without you for one Sunday?
…Every pastor ought to hope for better fruit than this. Remember, both you and I will give an account of our stewardship of souls.
And how unfortunate that due to there being perverts in the church who prey on children and their adult friends who cover for them, some people will grow up associating the Christian faith with sexual abuse, and may even reject the faith.
At one point, Turk was accusing various people who were Tweeting at him saying they believe the (alleged) victims of Chantry, to which Turk replied to one or two of them that they are Necrophiliacs, and how would they like him going around accusing them of having sex with dead bodies?
My impression of Turk’s melt-down on Twitter and elsewhere is that he cares more about his reputation and that of his buddy than he does in helping victims or in making sure that pedophiles are kept out of churches and away from children.
Nate Sparks took Turk to task for that “what are you a necrophiliac” ad hominem, among other things:
(Link): Rhetorical Questions: Frank Turk – Sparks blog
Here is another blog, by DetWiler, covering the Chantry story – this one also mentions there may be issues with Phil Johnson, another writer at the “Pyromaniacs” blog:
A few excerpts:
The story of his arrest for child molestation broke on November 26 and it was republished yesterday by The Daily Courier in Prescott, Arizona where he used to pastor and committed the alleged crimes. He now pastors at Christ Reformed Baptist Church in Hales Corners, Wisconsin in Milwaukee County. I am not surprised by his arrest based upon my interactions with him.
….Chantry has not been tried, convicted or sentenced like Morales but he has been arrested by law enforcement. This does not occur unless there is probable cause – that is, solid evidence. Nevertheless, he is presumed innocent under the law until guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt. That does not mean, however, private citizens cannot hold opinions regarding his case.
Chantry is also friends with Todd Pruitt, about whom I have recently posted three times, and Phil Johnson, about whom I will post in the future. I have confronted Chantry and Pruitt in private for covering up serious sins in Johnson’s life though not ones involving child sexual abuse. Johnson is John MacArthur’s executive director.
These three men are deceitful, arrogant, and spiritually abusive. It also appears Chantry is a child abuser. How can such men be in ministry? None of them are held to account by their elderships, boards or one another. I will say more in the future. This a great travesty!
A poster by the name of Jerome dug up a few places where Chantry was posting on the internet, including:
CHANTRY’S CREEPY INTEREST IN THE BOY SCOUTS
(Link): Churches move to cut ties to Scouts after gay policy change – June 2013, via the Wayback Machine, originally on the RNS site
Tim Fall first made this post to the page:
These churches are acting contrary to Jesus’s example and the gospel he preached. Can you imagine if Jesus were on earth in his ministry now instead of 2000 years ago and a religious leader came to him with the question “Rabbi, should our church stop sponsoring a scout troop because we would have to let homosexuals in”, that Jesus would answer yes? Based on what he did in the gospels, I’d have to say he’d be the one inviting the homosexuals to come to him and he’d be going into their homes to eat with them.
To which Tom Chantry replied:
And right after he finished eating with them, he would have said, “Hey, why don’t you take this group of eleven-year-old boys from the synagog and supervise them on a camping trip in the wilderness this weekend!”
C’mon! Grow up before you make comments like this.
Thanks for the dialog, Tom. You do realize that the present policy change concerns gay kids as members, not adults as leaders, right?
If (or perhaps when) they change the policy as to leaders, then your comment might have a point. But I still don’t think churches should be telling gay kids to stay out of church sponsored activities.
Tim, you do know how Scouting works, right? Older boys lead younger. The danger from predatory older boys is significant. Not only that, but the current compromise is legally untenable, and BSA knows it. Gay leaders are coming in – at most – two years.
The question here isn’t whether we are welcoming to sinners, but whether we put unrepentant sinners in responsible positions in which they can do tremendous harm.
If the accusations against Chantry are true, I’d say boys in boy scout groups have more to fear from him being in proximity as they do (or more than) a homosexual adult male.
Chantry also left comments on this page:
(Link): Second Hand Values or Can Conservatism Save America? – from Biblical Christianity Blog Spot (emphasis added by me):
May 2013 Tom Chantry said…
Hey, Dan, I’ve really appreciated your clarity and persistence on this issue. I put some thoughts up on my FB today for the sake of people that we are involved in Cub Scouts with (I am a Den Leader.) I thought I’d cut and paste some of it here (not the stuff particular to our situation). Since this is a moderated thread, you can feel free not to post any of it if it isn’t a worthwhile contribution; I won’t be offended. My thoughts:
Thought 1: The headline ought to read, “Boy Scouts Approve Temporary Policy as a Bridge to Future Gay Leadership.” It took the homosexual activists less than one day to proclaim this solution unworkable and to begin to point out the absurdity of a person who is an approved gay boy scout at the age of 17 years, 364 days, but who the following day is banned from involvement for life. It won’t last.
Thought 2: Everything Boy Scouts claims to stand for – EVERYTHING – is now a fraud. Does this decision do any duty to God? To the country? Does it help other people? Does it keep us physically strong? Mentally awake? Morally *cough* straight? Of course not. Those are all just empty words. The Boy Scouts are now a massive camping club. Virtue is dead.
Thought 3: If your kids are not involved in scouting, this is now a no-brainer. Don’t join. My recruitment days are over. Find something worthwhile to do with your time.
[omit Point 4]
This is just very mind boggling – an alleged child molester admits to having worked in or for the Boy Scouts, and he is going on and on about morality? Him of all people?
From what appears to be Chantry’s blog, by way of Internet Archive:
(Link): The Most Creepiest Time of the Year – from the Chantry Notes blog
…Baby It’s Cold Outside is a light-hearted, amusing, light-jazz treatment of sexual coercion. The song is a conversation between an obviously unmarried young woman (she’s worried about her father and mother waiting up for her at home) who finds herself in some difficulty attempting to leave a man’s apartment.
He pleads the cold as a reason for her to stay, pours her a stiff drink, puts on romantic records, and begs her not to “hold out.” Although foolish enough to be at his apartment in the first place, the victim at least has the sense to want to go home. In the end, though, she gives in, joining him in singing about the cold. The implied ending is that she remains in his embrace…and in his bed?
…This is one of those odd spots where I find myself nodding my head in agreement with the feminists. They see it for what it is: the anthem of date-rape. The girl actually says, “The answer is no,” at the opening of the second verse, and we all know what “no” means! But the wolf still pursues, and in the end he gets his prey. The line “Say what’s in this drink?” takes on a particularly creepy meaning in our decade; has the girl been drugged? Critics from the left have insisted that the song must go, and frankly, every thinking Christian ought to agree.
…I suppose part of the problem is that we use the same word – “cute” – to describe puppies, kittens, small children, and the objects of our sexual desire. More fundamentally, we need to realize that the same arbiters of pop-morality who have pushed homosexual marriage on us are not going to one day push other forms of sexual expression; they have already done so!
Remember, that was written by a guy who the news article says was indicted for sexual acts with different children.
Someone named Michael A. Coughlin left this comment below that Chantry post:
…Good post, too. The idea that the corruption of our youth is a recent thing is a filthy lie. It is actually, in a weird way, a by-product of healthy Christian separation from the world.
Chantry asked this of some guy in the comment box:
Before I call you naive, let me ask you this: how did you feel about little Harry singing “Gosh your lips look delicious” to little Emily?
Chantry also says this in the comment box:
I can appreciate that. I think, though, that what bugs me is, as I watch this as a man, I have the impression that they are trying to get me to contemplate whether the little girl is, in fact, kissable. Or perhaps they are trying to get a man of another ‘orientation’ to wish that the little boy would say that to him.
These are kids, and this is sexual innuendo. It bugs me tremendously that someone went through the song to make it “kid-friendly” and decided that the lines about alcohol and drugs had to go, but the sexual innuendo could stay!
There you have it. A married preacher Christian guy is, according to some sources and news reports, allegedly sexually abusing kids – and his horrible online buddies are defending him out the wazoo, so far as accusing others of being Necrophiliacs.
I see no reason at all to live by the “equally yoked” teaching – if you are an unmarried Christian woman, stop seeking a partner from among the small and perverted pool of Christian men and widen your horizons. There might be a nice, caring, non-child-molesting single Non-Christian man out there you’d be just as happy being married to.
—–Edit Dec 13, 2016—–
More on Turk’s Twitter tantrums:
If you needed any more evidence that Turk is a sanctimonious, arrogant, unfeeling, smug prick (I already knew and didn’t need to see more evidence) who shows no concern about child sex abuse being enabled by church culture or by preachers, here is a Twitter conversation or two involving him:
(Link): Twitter Conversation with Turk – starting Dec 13, 2016
(Link): Twitter Conversation with Turk – Dec 12
As can be seen in these Tweets, Turk is unbelievably rude, dismissive, and condescending.
Turk shows absolutely no concern or understanding about the dynamics of child sex abuse (and is probably also ignorant about domestic violence of husbands against wives, I’d bet) and is more concerned in protecting his reputation or that of his buddies
Based on how Turk interacts with others on Twitter and elsewhere and things I’ve read by him or about him in the past (including things on the “Team Pyro” blog), he comes across as also being more concerned with protecting and promoting “correct doctrine” than he is in supporting victims of abuse. His demeanor and priorities are sickening and the total opposite of what Jesus Christ and the New Testament teaches.
One also wonders why Turk is so protective of JMac, when apparently, based on news reports, JMac, JMac’s unloving, shoddy counseling, and cruddy theology and his lousy church, were partially responsible for the suicide of one young man:
May 1985, by William Plummer
Kenneth Nally found release from his demons; yet his death continues to haunt and agitate those who loved and advised him. In an unprecedented trial now entering its third week in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Kenneth’s parents, Walter and Maria Nally, are suing the church and four of its pastors, John MacArthur, Duane Rea, Rich Thomson and Lynn Cory, for “clergyman malpractice.”
The suit charges that the defendants knew young Nally needed professional psychiatric care but actively dissuaded him from seeking it.
In addition it is claimed that Nally’s turmoil was worsened by the religious guidance he received— guidance that “exacerbated Kenneth Nally’s preexisting feelings of guilt, anxiety and depression” and characterized suicide as a legitimate remedy for an unsuccessful life.
Dec 23, 2016:
The (Link): Wartburg Watch has this headline:
Tom Chantry Has Been Arrested and Is Now Jailed in Arizona
They in turn linked to a few new pages, such as this one:
(Link): Yavapai County suspect booked