Male Celebrity Says He’s Happy Being Childless – I’m Awaiting the Attacks by the Usual: The Tucker Carlsons, Abby Johnsons, and Matt Walshes, Shaming This Man For Being Fine With Not Having Kids
Will movie actor Seth Rogen get backlash from hyper-pro-parenthood conservatives for publicly admitting that he’s fine with being childless, as did comic Chelsea Handler?
If you’re new to my blog: I’m a conservative who is not anti-family, anti-parenthood, or anti-marriage, but can see how many other conservatives have wrongly placed undue emphasis upon marriage, parenthood, and The Nuclear Family. (I am not a woke, abortion-supporting feminist progressive, in other words.)
I’ve so far seen a very small number of people on Twitter saying, “Ha ha, I’m glad Rogen isn’t reproducing” and a few that are critical of him being childfree, but there’s hardly been any resistance or criticism over his childfree choice by everyday people on that platform.
Will Tucker Carlson tell Rogen that by putting career over family, he’s ultimately choosing misery?
(On his nightly Fox news program, Carlson often likes to mock working women who are childless, he likes to argue that they are trading in motherhood – which he equates with guaranteed happiness for all women – for devoting their lives to a corporation.
I’ve never heard Carlson say to single, childless men: “You’re trading in happiness over having kids for a career, you sucker.”
This rhetoric is only directed at women. It’s a double standard.
Also, if a single, childless woman doesn’t earn a pay check, if she doesn’t hold down a job somewhere, is Tucker Carlson going to pay her rent for her, while she’s out dating, to try and find a “Mr. Right” to marry and pro-create with? My guess is no.)
Will sexist Matt Walsh (who’s correct about the transgender debate but little else) mock Rogen for “pushing 50 and being childless,” and suggest he will die alone in a room full of cats, as he did with comic Chelsea Handler? -Probably not.
Even should the usual culprits, who constantly try to shame, criticize, and fear monger women into getting pregnant and having children, should actually criticize Rogen over passing up Fatherhood, it will be a very, very rare exception that does not counter the repeated bashing of childless women that these extreme “pro family” conservatives have been aiming at women for decades.
And, I would guess that on the chance they would confront a man on his being childless, they would do so without using the same level of gross sexism and ageism at a man for passing up parenthood that they commonly direct at women, such as the phrases and jokes about “hitting the wall,” tweeting photos of empty egg cartons, and making “crazy cat lady” jokes.
I do not think that men or women should be shamed, guilt tripped, or scared into getting married or having children, but I’ve noticed for many years that most of the criticism for being single or childless is more often than not directed at women.
(Link): Seth Rogen Says He and His Wife Are ‘Happy’ They Didn’t Have Kids
(Link): Seth Rogen: Not having kids ‘has helped me succeed’
Seth Rogen says he and his wife are “happy” with their “choice to not have kids” — and he believes it’s only boosted his career.
(Link): Seth Rogen claims he’s more successful because he did not have kids: ‘Honestly, thank God’
Seth Rogen and wife Lauren Miller ‘get to do whatever we want’ because they do not have kids, actor says
March 11, 2023
By Stephanie Giang-Paunon | Fox News
Seth Rogen is crediting his success to not having children.
The “Knocked Up” star candidly opened up about his personal life and the reason behind why he and his wife Lauren Miller decided not to start a family of their own.
“I do not [have kids]. That has helped me succeed as well, definitely” Rogen laughed during an interview on The Diary of a CEO podcast.
“There’s a whole huge thing I’m not doing, which is raising children.”
The 40-year-old actor continued to say he doesn’t believe having kids would make him happy.
“I’ve been around obviously a lot of children, I’m not ignorant to what it’s like…everyone I know has kids…some of my friends have had kids for decades,” he quipped.
“Some people want kids, some people don’t want kids. Honestly, you just are told, ‘You go through life, you get married, you have kids.’ That’s what happens…me and my wife, neither of us were like that.”
The “Pineapple Express” star went on to say that the older he and his wife get, they are “reaffirmed” with their choice of not wanting to have children.
“Honestly, thank God we don’t have children, we get to do whatever we want,” he continued.
Rogen added that he and his wife are at the “prime of our lives” and enjoy freedom with no children.
“We are smarter than we’ve ever been, we understand ourselves more than we ever have, we have the capacity to achieve a level of work and a level of communication and care for one another, and a lifestyle we can live with one another, that we’ve never been able to live before.”
He assured his fans that he and Lauren are “very happy” without expanding their family.
On the Diary of a CEO’s YouTube page, where Rogen’s interview was posted, fans commented on the outspoken discussion.
“Very refreshing to hear someone vocalize, without shame or expectations from society, that they don’t want to have kids and are happy with their choice. Very authentic and genuine,” one listener wrote.
Another fan wrote, “100% spot on about kids. Me and my wife actively enjoy not having them too!”
“Very refreshing to hear his reasoning for not having kids. Me and my wife think and feel exactly the same. Bang on Seth!”
(Link): Seth Rogen was asked a question about being childless that men never get. His answer was honest.
by Tod Perry
March 9, 2023
Childless women in the public eye are often plagued by the question: “So, why don’t you have any children?” It’s a deeply personal question that cuts right to the bone, and there can be many answers. But, if the woman doesn’t want children and says so publicly, she is bound to face some judgment.
“[I don’t] like [the pressure] that people put on me, on women—that you’ve failed yourself as a female because you haven’t procreated. I don’t think it’s fair,” Jennifer Aniston told Allure. “You may not have a child come out of your vagina, but that doesn’t mean you aren’t mothering—dogs, friends, friends’ children.”
On the Monday, March 6 episode of “The Diary Of A CEO” podcast, host Steven Bartlett asked actor Seth Rogen about why he’s childless, and it was a rare moment where a man in the public eye was challenged on the topic. Rogen gave a thoughtful explanation for his and Lauren Miller’s decision to be child-free.
Rogen and Miller were married in 2011.
“There’s a whole huge thing I’m not doing, which is raising children,” Rogen told Bartlett. The host attempted to play devil’s advocate and asked Rogen if he considered whether having children might have made him and his wife “happier.”
“I don’t think it would,” Rogen responded.
Then, as if anticipating the question, the “Pineapple Express” star upended one of the arguments that people who have children often make: that people who don’t have children have no idea what it’s like.
…He added that many people seem to have kids without considering the issue.
“I mean, a lot of people have kids before they even think about it, from what I’ve seen, honestly,” he said. “You just are told, you go through life, you get married, you have kids—it’s what happens.”
Rogen and his wife have only grown stronger in their decision and they believe that it has helped their relationship.
…Everyone has the right to choose whether or not to have children, and no one has the right to judge them. Rogen and Miller have thought their decision through and should be applauded for living how they see fit. It’s cool to see Rogen with such a thoughtful opinion on the matter. It’d be even cooler if celebrities never had to discuss the topic in the first place.
Seth Rogen Got Brutally Honest About Why He And His Wife Decided Not To Have Kids After Being Asked If He’d Be “Happier” If They Did
“Me and my wife, neither of us were like that … The older we get the more happy and reaffirmed we are with our choice to not have kids.”
March 9, 2023
by Ellen Durney
Seth Rogen and his wife, Lauren Miller, have been child-free and happily married since 2011, and in a new interview, the actor spoke openly about their decision not to have kids.
Appearing on the Diary of a CEO podcast this week, Seth talked extensively about his lengthy career and how he became one of the best-loved comedy writers in Hollywood — noting that not having children “definitely” played a huge part in his success.
…In response, host Steven Bartlett asked Seth to consider the opposing side of the debate, that being parents might have made his and Lauren’s lives “happier” — prompting Seth to firmly disagree.
“I don’t think it would,” he responded. “I’ve been around obviously a lot of children, I’m not ignorant to what it’s like. … Everyone I know has kids. I’m 40, you know? I know.”
“Some of my friends have had kids for decades. Some people want kids, some people don’t want kids,” he added, before going on to suggest that a lot of people grow their families before even considering whether or not it’s actually right for them.
“I mean, a lot of people have kids before they even think about it, from what I’ve seen honestly,” he said. “You just are told, you go through life, you get married, you have kids — it’s what happens.”
Speaking more explicitly about his personal experience, Seth clarified that having children is something that neither he nor Lauren ever wanted, going on to add that they’ve grown more sure of their decision as they’ve gotten older.
… “Very refreshing to hear someone vocalize, without shame or expectations from society, that they don’t want to have kids and are happy with their choice,” they commented.
In agreement, others applauded his take by noting that they have a similar experience of child-free marriage.
…Away from the praise, there were several people over on TikTok who noted that it’s actually quite rare to see a man not only give such a detailed response, but also to even be questioned about not having kids in the first place.
It goes without saying that women have long been faced with public and invasive questioning about why they don’t have children, with a number of huge names like Miley Cyrus, Helen Mirren, and Ellen DeGeneres having previously spoken out to quell speculation about their views on motherhood.
So, given that this line of questioning has historically been imposed upon women — both within the context of celebrities and in everyday life — people were almost surprised to see that Seth had been confronted with the topic too.
“Nice to see a man be asked this,” one person wrote, garnering more than 17,000 likes.
Other commenters replied, noting that this was actually the first time they’d ever seen a man in the public eye questioned about their plans — or lack thereof — to have children.
…Of course, there were also people who couldn’t help but feel that no one should ever feel in a position that they’d need to justify their reasoning for not having children, publicly or otherwise.
“I love everything that he said,” one person commented, adding: “why do the childfree have to justify their choice?”
Another user called the question “condescending,” noting that people who have children are scarcely asked to account for that decision.
Relevant (off site) material:
(Link): What’s That Ticking Sound? The Male Biological Clock
Men are also at the mercy of age when it comes to having kids
June 25, 2011
By Jennifer Vanderbes
A man’s age when he has children is turning out to be an important factor in that child’s health, according to WSJ contributor Jennifer Vanderbes. Kelsey Hubbard talks to the author about the role a man’s biological clock plays in a child’s risk for diseases and disorders.
(Link): Bizarre: Women Who Are Genuinely Fine With Being Single or Childless and Who Publicly Admit It Deeply Disturb or Infuriate Sexist Incel Types and My Fellow Conservatives, Who Want Such Women to Harbor a Victim Mindset
(Link): The Chelsea Handler Childless Woman Upset: Other Conservatives Wrongly Conflating Married Motherhood with Womanhood or with Happiness, Meaning, or Purpose
(Link): Writers at WND and Real Clear Wire Sound Like They’re Freaking Out Over Increasing Numbers of Single Women Who Aren’t Marrying or Having Children
(Link): It’s Okay If You Don’t Have Baby Fever! by Olga Khazan
(Link): Research: Being Single [or Fear of Being Single] is a Meaningful Predictor of Settling for Less in Relationships
(Link): Tucker Carlson Has the Audacity to Blame All Women for the Actions of a Male Mass Shooter – Which is not “Based”
(Link): Men Are Actually Blaming All Women for The Misogynic Progressive ‘Transwoman’ Lunacy – and not crediting feminists who’ve been speaking out on the issue for years – Men Like Rufo and Walsh Don’t Seem to Want to Share the Credit with Women
(Link): Police: 150 Starving Cats Discovered in NY House Where Presumably Married Couple is Found Dead – (Time To Stop With the “Single Cat Lady Will Die Alone But For the Cats” Sexist Trope, Thanks)
(Link): Why all the articles about being Child Free? On Being Childfree or Childless – as a Conservative / Right Wing / Christian
(Link): Check Your ‘Cat-Lady’ Preconceptions About Childless Women by K. Wallace
(Link): The Bizarre, Misguided Shaming of Single and Childless or Childfree Women by Pro-Lifer Abby Johnson – (Not All Single, Childless Women are Liberal, Pro-Choice Feminists)
(Link): Federalist (conservative) Magazine Staff Annoyed that Other Outlets Publish the Down Side of Motherhood and Are Requesting Sunny Motherhood Propaganda Pieces – As If Conservatives Haven’t Pushed for Motherhood Enough? The Mind Boggles
(Link): Even If You’re Married You Can Die Alone – Elderly Married Couple Found Dead
(Link): A Woman’s Fertility is Her Own Business, not Everyone Else’s by L. Bates
(Link): Dear Abby: “My Kids Never Call or Visit Me” – Your Adult Children Do Not Owe You Friendship and Won’t Visit You When You Are Elderly: Readjust Your Expectations, Parents
(Link): Mom Blows $10K on Veneers, Botox While Refusing Kids’ Christmas Gifts
(Link): When Your Personal, Private Choices Enrage Others by Bella DePaulo (Regarding People Who are Single and/or Childfree)
(Link): Husband Dies of Covid-19 Only 48 Hours After Wife Gives Birth to Premature Baby
(Link): Married South Dakota Couple (who are also Parents) Die of Cancer Hours Apart on the Same Day – Marriage Doesn’t Guarantee Happiness, Great Health
(Link): Couple Die of Covid, Leaving Behind Newborn and Five Children
(Link): Man Who Lost His Wife Puts Sign in Window Asking for Friends: ‘It’s My Last Resort’
(Link): Bride Battling Cancer Dies 18 Hours After Exchanging Vows
(Link): Christian Couple Dies in Helicopter Crash Hours After ‘Fairytale’ Wedding
(Link): Getting Married Is Not an Accomplishment by N. Brooke
(Link): Why We Thought Marriage Made Us Healthier, and Why We Were Wrong by Bella DePaulo
(Link): Are Marriage and Family A Woman’s Highest Calling? by Marcia Wolf – and other links that address the Christian fallacy that a woman’s most godly or only proper role is as wife and mother
(Link): Jesus Christ Removed the Stigma, Shame From Being Single and Childless – by David Instone Brewer
(Link): Widows and Childless and Childfree Have Better Well Being Than Married Couples and Parents says new study
(Link): Married South Dakota Couple (who are also Parents) Die of Cancer Hours Apart on the Same Day – Marriage Doesn’t Guarantee Happiness, Great Health
(Link): The Bible Does Not Teach Christians to “Focus On The Family” – The Idolization of Family by American Christians (article)
(Link): ‘Why Are You Single’ Lists That Do Not Pathologize Singles by Bella DePaulo
(Link): Inside the Growing Movement of Women Who Wish They’d Never Had Kids by S. Treleaven
(Link): Lies The Church Tells Single Women (by Sue Bohlin) (Re: About Marriage, Being Single, Being Childless / Childfree Vs Being a Mother)
(Link): Authors at The Federalist Keep Bashing Singleness in the Service of Promoting Marriage – Which Is Not Okay
(Link): Married Couple Raped Their Own Kids During “Swinger” Sessions Where They Allowed Pedophiles To Rape Their Kids Too
(Link): Why do we still have to justify the choice to be child-free? by H. Freeman
(Link): Husband-Hunting is the Worst Part of a Christian Upbringing – Christianity Made Me Obsessed with Finding a Husband – by B. Ramos
(Link): Abused Baby Boy Is Fitted With Artificial Anus ‘After His Parents Inflicted Horrific Injuries on the Six-Week-Old Child For Sexual Gratification’, German Prosecutors Claim
(Link): Killer Dad Yanked Son’s Teeth Out With Pliers, Gave Him Coal For Christmas and Raped Him To Death With Stick
(Link): Really, It’s Okay To Be Single – In order to protect marriage, we should be careful not to denigrate singleness – by Peter Chin
(Link): Acceptance (vs. Denial, Anger, or Should-ing) – Helps in Healing and Getting Through Painful Events and Dealing With Things You Cannot Change
(Link): Southern Baptist Al Mohler Intimates That Childless And Childfree Adults Are Not Human (2019) – and He Thinks This is a Good and Biblical Worldview
(Link): “Who is my mother and who are my brothers?” – one of the most excellent Christian rebuttals I have seen against the Christian idolatry of marriage and natalism, and in support of adult singleness and celibacy – from CBE’s site
(Link): Fewer Americans See Their Romantic Partners As a Source of Life’s Meaning
(Link): Baby Making Fixation at Christianity Today Magazine Online – Shaming Women For Not Procreating, or For Delaying Motherhood, or For Limiting the Number of Children