Utah Mother Kills Herself and Her Two Kids – I thought motherhood was all bliss and a woman’s greatest calling in life – according to Christians

Utah Mother Kills Herself and Her Two Kids – I thought motherhood was all bliss and a woman’s greatest calling in life -according to Christians

I guess motherhood is not quite the sunshine and butterflies station in life evangelicals, Baptists, Fundamentalists, Reformed, and other flavors of Christians, like to make it out to be:

(Link): Horror Murder Suicide Another Mom Kills Self, Kids

Motherhood is just SO rewarding for women and God’s only calling for the them, that it makes them blow their heads off and kill their own daughters. Color me relieved for never having had children, then.

Excerpts:

    A Utah mom described by pals as positive and caring shot and killed her two young daughters before turning the gun on herself the same day her fiance packed up his belongings and moved out of her house, authorities said.

    Kyler Ramsdell-Oliva, 32, killed her pretty blonde daughters, Kenadee Oliva, 13, and Isabella Oliva, 7, Tuesday evening in their home in Syracuse, a town on the Great Salt Lake about 25 miles north of Salt Lake City.

    Cops didn’t name the fiance, but said they had been to the home before on domestic calls.

    “We were there the night before,” a police spokesman said. “There was a civil issue. They had a fight and he came to pick up his property.” Neighbors said they saw the man loading boxes into a U-Haul truck earlier Tuesday.

    … The killings came only a day after a distraught Florida mom (Link): fatally shot her two teenage children before turning the weapon on herself in another tragic murder suicide.

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Related post:

(Link): Times You’re Glad You Were Never a Parent (1)

(Link): Parenthood Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread)

Times You’re Glad You Were Never a Parent (1)

Times You’re Glad You Were Never a Parent (1)

You know, Christians like to insist a woman’s only or greatest calling in life is to pop out a kid. I never really cared if I had one or not. I see stories like these and feel very glad I never had one.

1a (Link): Daughter Beats Mother to Death With Hammer, Strangles Her

1b (Link): Police: Argument over car led to murder of Salem Twp. mother

2 (Link): Teenage Son Charged with Killing Former Calvary Chapel Pastor and Four Other Family Members

3 (Link): Student high on party drug cuts off his own PENIS after stabbing mother

Excerpts.

(Link): Police: Argument over car led to murder of Salem Twp. mother

    SALEM TOWNSHIP, Pa. — A woman has been charged with homicide in the death of her mother after an argument over a car on New Year’s Eve.

    Dawn Wagner, 51, was found dead in her Salem Township mobile home Thursday night. Police said Sarah Vercauteren, 25, and her mother, Wagner, got into an argument over the use of Wagner’s vehicle on Dec. 31.

    According to police, Vercauteren became irate with Wagner, removed a hammer from the kitchen drawer and struck her mother in the head with the hammer. An autopsy revealed that Wagner was hit with the hammer 18 times.

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Preacher Found Guilty of Murdering His Second Wife, Probably Killed The First One, He Had Affair With Vulnerable, Grieving Woman at His Church

Preacher Found Guilty of Murdering His Second Wife, Probably Killed The First One, He Had Affair With Vulnerable, Grieving Woman at His Church

Not only did this guy murder his second wife (and apparently his first one), but a few sources says he started an affair with a grieving widow in his church. An all around stand up classy guy.

And married people are morally superior to single people. Don’t forget that, now. Evangelicals and Baptists believe that singles are randy rabbits that hump everything in sight and are not as mature as married couples.

I also wonder how sicko freaks like this guy – who manipulate emotionally wounded women for sex, who murder two wives – get spouses, while the decent, normal people of the world go single.

(Link): ’48 Hours’ chronicles murder case of former Jackson Township pastor

    By Andrew Scott
    Pocono Record Writer
    January 04, 2014

    “Death At The Parsonage,” a look at former Jackson Township pastor Arthur Schirmer — awaiting trial in his first wife’s death after being convicted of murdering his second wife — will air on CBS News’ “48 Hours” at 10 tonight.

    Schirmer was pastor at Reeders United Methodist Church in Jackson Township in 2008 when second wife Betty Jean Schirmer died from a head injury her husband said she had suffered in a crash.

    Arthur Schirmer said he was driving Betty Jean to the hospital, after she had complained of jaw pain, and that their vehicle crashed into the guard rail after he swerved to avoid a deer on Route 715 in Pocono Township.

    In October 2008, three months after Betty Jean’s death, police investigated Joseph Musante’s gunshot suicide in Schirmer’s church office and learned Musante’s wife, Cynthia Musante, had been involved in an extramarital affair with Arthur Schirmer.

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Christian Mother Who Loved To Cheerfully Quote Bible Verses Kicked Her Small Son To Death – Motherhood does not make women more godly / mature / loving

Christian Mother (Synthia Varela-Casaus) Who Loved To Cheerfully Quote Bible Verses Kicked Her Small Son To Death – Motherhood does not make women more godly / mature / loving

Disclaimer and reminder. I’m sure there are parents out there who bill themselves as atheist who rape, abuse, or murder their children, but I would not deduce from that fact ALL atheists do that, or that ALL atheists would endorse such behavior. It’s up for debate, I suppose, if atheism is the root cause behind such action.

So bear in mind when I post these “Christians abuse their kids” news stories, I am doing so not to depict ALL Christians as violent, abusive wackos, but only to point out that being a parent, contra to Christian claims, does not make a person more mature or godly than being childfree or childless.

(I mention this because I have so far seen a few atheists link to this story with glee, as though they seriously think this is some kind of evidence in their minds that Christianity is absolute bunk.
Case in point: the very, very bitter atheist person who is behind this blog: “Gawd Strength” – his post on this story comes complete with the standard bitter atheistic pulled out of context Old Testament law about parenting.)

(Link): Mother Admits Repeatedly Kicking Boy Who Died

    The Albuquerque woman first told police that the nine-year-old boy fell from a toy horse but then confessed to kicking him.

(Link): Police: New Mexico Mom Admits to Kicking Child

    An Albuquerque mother is facing child abuse charges in the death of her young son.

    Officer Simon Drobik says police were called to a home in the city’s northeast heights Friday night after getting a 911 call from the mother, 38-year-old Synthia Varela-Casaus.

    She initially told police her 9-year-old son was playing with his 3-year-old brother when the older brother was thrown from a bouncing toy horse and hit his head.

    The boy was pronounced dead after being taken to an Albuquerque hospital.

    Medical personnel saw multiple injuries on the boy’s body. Drobik says the mother later told detectives she kicked the boy in the stomach during an argument, causing him to hit his head.

    The mother told detectives she repeatedly kicked the boy while he was on the floor.

(Link): Synthia Varela-Casaus Admits To Kicking Child As He Lay Dying: Police

    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — An Albuquerque mother is facing child abuse charges in the death of her young son.

    Officer Simon Drobik says police were called to a home in the city’s northeast heights Friday night after getting a 911 call from the mother, 38-year-old Synthia Varela-Casaus.

    She initially told police her 9-year-old son was playing with his 3-year-old brother when the older brother was thrown from a bouncing toy horse and hit his head.

    The boy was pronounced dead after being taken to an Albuquerque hospital….

(Link): Slain boy recalled as helpful, kind, sad

Nine-Year-Old Boy Reported Abuse By Mother Spouting Godly Pieties; She Ends Up Kicking Him to Death

Source: The Friendly Atheist (blog on Patheos)
URL:
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nine-year-old-boy-reported-abuse-by-mother-
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-to-death/

    Not unlike Ariel Castro, Varela-Casaus delighted in updating her Facebook page with sugary sentiments about God’s benevolence. In the days before Omaree’s death, she took to Facebook to ask Jesus to “please put a hedge of protection over all the children in the world,” and she called her three own children “precious angels”:

      MOMMY LOVES YOU MY PRECIOUS ANGELS OMAREE, NEVIAH, AND LIL ESTEVAN. GOD BLESS YOU AND ALWAYS KNOW YOUR MOMMY IS HERE FOR YOU WRONG, RIGHT, OR INDIFFERENT I PRAY FOR YOU GUYS EVERY DAY AND NIGHT GOOD NIGHT MY LIL ANGELS MAMA LOVES YOU

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Related post:

(Link): Parenthood Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread)

Interesting (and Disturbing) Editorial On How Males Outnumbering Females Leads to More Violence Against Women – Men Cannot Find Women To Marry, etc (Re Demographics in India, Gender Selective Abortion etc)

Interesting (and Disturbing) Editorial On How Males Outnumbering Females Leads to More Violence Against Women etc

(Link): India Is Sitting on a Time-Bomb of Violence Against Women

    This piece first appeared on newstatesman.com.

BY SUNNY HUNDAL

Imagine a world where the proportion of girls being born is so low that large proportions of males just cannot find partners when they come of age. In such a world they are more likely to congregate in gangs for company. In turn, that means they are more likely to engage in risky behaviour: i.e. commit crime, do drugs and engage in violence against women. In gangs, men are more likely to harass women and even commit rape.

But this isn’t some dystopian fantasy – there are 37 million more men than women in India, and most of them are of marriageable age given the relatively young population. A social time-bomb is now setting off there with terrifying consequences.

While researching for my e-book on violence against women in India, earlier this year I came across an extraordinary article on why some brothers living in the same household were sharing a wife rather than marrying separate women.

Let that sink in for a moment. The Times of India reported in 2005 on instances where between two and five brothers living in a house, in rural areas in the state of Punjab, had married the same woman. It was extraordinary not just for what was in it, but for what was left out.

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Marriage Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread) Confronting Refuting Correcting Rebutting Christian Propaganda Arguments Stereotypes About Marriage Married Matrimony

Marriage Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread)

The following are links to many (but not all) posts on this blog about news reports about sins and crimes committed by MARRIED people.

Not only do these news reports dispell the Christian myth that married people are more godly, mature, responsible, or sexually pure than singles, but…

These links also demonstrate that married sex is not as great Christians say it is, which they say to entice kids into staying virgins until marriage.

If married sex were as wonderful as Christians claim, we would not see all these reports of married Christian men (or women) using porn, having affairs, or hiring prostitutes.

Some of these married people featured in the news reports below might also be PARENTS and CHRISTIAN.

—- LIST OF CRIMES / SINS COMMITTED BY MARRIED PEOPLE —-


MARRIED WOMEN, sins and crimes of (ie, specifically about married women)

List of Married MEN who have been caught in sin or crime is listed farther below

(Link): New Study Released: Cheaters: More American Married Women Admit to Adultery (links)

Contains links to information about why married women commit adultery, survey info, etc:

(Link): Married Women Engage in Sexual Sin – and most men in denial particularly Christian conservatives

Man writes for advice, his wife had affairs:

(Link): More Schadenfreude – Glad Not To Be Married Series

(Link): Missouri Jail Nurse Allegedly Poisoned Husband, Set House On Fire In Bid to Marry Inmate by K. Allen

(Link): Glad I’m Not Married – Woman Writes For Advice: ‘Help! My Husband Caught Me Cheating and Now Wants an Open Marriage.’

(Link): Wife of Kinda Famous TV Preacher Guy Committed Multiple Affairs – He tells congregation at church service

(Link): Married Woman Has Affair With Married Man While Her Own Husband Deals With Cancer Stricken Parents

(Link): Cheating Married Christian Women and Lessons I Take Away – and Being a Virgin Does Not Guarantee God will Send You a Spouse

(Link): Beware of HIV / AIDS Infected Christian Male Preachers On Dating Sites – he cheated with a Christian Married Woman

(Link): The Chaste Ways of Female Politicians – but some have extra marital affairs (Article)

(Link): Woman Stabs Husband with Ceramic Squirrel For Not Buying Beer (another time I’m glad I’ve never married)

(Link): Married Woman Carries on Extra Marital Affair for Fifteen Years – (Married Couples – Not Singles – More Prone to Sexual Sin)

(Link): Registered nurse, 65, accused of attempted murder ‘for injecting FECES into husband’s IV after his heart surgery’

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Newlywed Pushes Husband Off Cliff Killing Him

Newlywed Pushes Husband Off Cliff Killing Him

(Link): Newlywed accused of pushing husband off cliff pleads guilty

    By Tracy Connor, Staff Writer, NBC News

    A Montana bride on trial for pushing her husband of eight days off a 200-foot cliff pleaded guilty Thursday to second-degree murder just before closing arguments were set to begin.

    Jordan Linn Graham, 22, agreed that shoving Cody Johnson, 25, while the two argued on a narrow ledge at Glacier National Park was a “reckless act,” the Missoulian newspaper reported.

    “I ran back up to the car and left,” she told the judge. “I was scared of what happened and in that moment I was so scared I didn’t know what to do.”

Mother charged in killing, dumping baby in recycling bin

Woman Murders Infant, Tosses It Into Trash

Um, yeah. Christians keep saying (or assuming) that parenthood equates to instant maturity and godliness, but this woman killed her baby and tossed it into the trash. This also works against the notion of gender complementarians that a woman’s only or greatest calling in life is to be a mother. Clearly, some women are not cut out to be mothers.

(Link): Mother charged in killing, dumping baby in recycling bin

    The newborn boy’s body was found Nov. 12 at a recycling plant hours after his death.

    SPRING VALLEY, N.Y. — A woman charged with murdering her newborn son confessed, police say, telling them she didn’t want the baby and hid the pregnancy from her relatives and housemates.

    Maria Oliva Guaman-Guaman, 23, is being held without bail in Rockland County jail after being arraigned Tuesday in Spring Valley Justice Court on a charge of second-degree murder, accused of strangling her infant and leaving his body in a recycling bin in the New York suburbs.

    … “There were tears, but I can’t really say she was remorseful,” Modica said of the mother. “She told the investigator she didn’t want the child, and later on she said, ‘I can’t afford another child.'”

    … The infant, whom police dubbed Baby Angel, was found hours later Nov. 12 at Brookfield Recycling in Elmsford, N.Y. The baby’s umbilical cord was still attached, leading police to believe he was killed shortly after his birth.

    … Police believe the baby was both born and killed at Guaman-Guaman’s home, about 30 miles north of New York City.

Police: Newlyweds Killed Pa. Man for Thrills – So Much for the Christian Stereotype that Marriage Matures People

Police: Newlyweds killed Pa. man for thrills – So Much for the Christian Stereotype that Marriage Matures People

Show of hands from any unmarried readers: how many of you, for kicks and giggles, place ads on sites to lure people to your homes to murder them? Mmm-hmm, well, I’m unmarried and hell no, I’ve never murdered anyone for kicks and giggles, or for any reason.

Yeah, contrary to evangelical, Southern Baptist, Fundamentalist, and Neo Reformed thinking, I do not need a husband to keep me in line, or from murdering strangers. 🙄

Should I take away from stories such as this one that marriage turns people into violent psychopaths?

(Link): Newlyweds Accused of Thrill-Kill Craigslist Murder

    Dec. 7, 2013
    By GILLIAN MOHNEY via 20/20

    A newlywed couple is facing homicide charges, accused of allegedly luring a man to their car through Craigslist and killing him for the thrill of it.

    Elyette Barbour, 22, and his wife Miranda Barbour 18, were married just three weeks when they allegedly killed Troy Laferrara, 42, after setting up a meeting with him on Craigslist.

    According to police in Sunbury, Pa., Elyette Barbour said the couple had tried to kill other people in the past but were not successful until they met with Laferrara. The murder occurred on Elyette Barbour’s 22nd birthday according to the police affidavit.

    Police said even after arresting the couple, they were still reviewing other previous suspicious activity or events that might be related to the couple, including the death of the biological father of Miranda Barbour’s 1-year-old child.

(Link): Newlyweds Elytte And Miranda Barbour Killed A Man For Fun, Police Say

(Link): Police: Newlyweds killed Pa. man for thrills

    -Couple married just 3 weeks lured a Pa. man to his death with a Craigslist ad

    – Husband said he and his wife planned to kill before, but plans never worked out

    – Elytte Barbour, 22, and Miranda Barbour, 18, both face homicide charges in Troy LaFerrara’s death

    SUNBURY, Pennsylvania (AP) — A couple married just three weeks lured a Pennsylvania man to his death with a Craigslist ad because they wanted to kill someone together, police said.

    Elytte Barbour told officers before his arrest Friday night that he and his wife, Miranda, had planned to kill before but their plans never worked out until last month when Troy LaFerrara responded to an online posting that promised companionship in return for money.

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