Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: ‘I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want’

Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: ‘I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want’

What a charmer.

Dollars to doughnuts this idiot creep and his wife were probably attending a church that teaches something called “gender complementarianism,” which teaches women, especially wives, are to be subordinate to men.

(Also note that the “be equally yoked” teaching is a waste of your time if you are a single Christian woman who desires marriage – a man who claims to be Christian, even if he goes to church, may be a rapist, wife beater, adulterer, porn addict, or who knows what else.

This incident happened in a church parking lot, so I assume one or both of them were members there? Maybe not.)

Please note, however, that there ARE Christian men on various forums and blogs who feel there is no such concept as “marital rape” because, they believe, wives are always obligated to give a husband sex, and the husband can “take” sex from the wife whenever he wants – which is in fact rape, as it’s non-consensual.

(Link):  Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: ‘I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want’

  • by David Edwards
  • A Tennessee man is facing charges of aggravated rape and assault after he allegedly attacked his wife in a church parking lot.
  • According to (Link): WMC Action News 5, the 27-year-old Memphis man drove his wife to the church parking lot, where he confronted her with accusations of cheating on him.
  • Memphis Police told WMC that the man choked and raped his wife while holding her down.
  • “I am your husband,” he reportedly said. “I can’t rape you. I can get it anytime I want.”

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It’s Not Your Imagination, Single Women: There Literally Aren’t Enough Men Out There – Re: Man Shortage – Follow Up Interview

It’s Not Your Imagination, Single Women: There Literally Aren’t Enough Men Out There – Re: Man Shortage – Follow Up Interview 

The number of sexist men leaving comments below the page linked to below is breath taking.

Despite the fact the page is simply saying it’s a numbers game – there are more single women than men (especially in regards to college education) – there is no hatred of men going on in the article, but many of the male commentators leaving remarks below the page are complaining about how men have things so tough in society, they are complaining about feminism.

However, there is some honest, yet very fair, criticism of male behavior in the interview, as pertaining to men who realize women out-number them, so they treat women like trash – they will “play the field” and date ten women at once, or date one woman, use her, treat her like dirt, then dump her, to move on to another woman.

And that is terrible behavior. I believe the interviewer is correct to bring that point up. Pointing out that some men treat women like objects or like trash is not misandry. It’s honest. It’s merely pointing out reality.

The author says college educated women who desire marriage should consider marrying non-college educated men, rather than snubbing them, which is a rather “pro man” argument to make.

In spite of all this, a number of sexist Nimrods (men) in the comments section, who have chips on their shoulders against women, are complaining about feminism and other irrelevant issues. Several of them admit to being single. With lousy attitudes against women like theirs, it’s no wonder to me why such men are single.

(Link): It’s Not Your Imagination, Single Women: There Literally Aren’t Enough Men Out There – Re: Man Shortage – Follow Up Interview 

  • Sept 26, 2015
  • Not long after he turned 30, the writer Jon Birger realized he and his wife knew a lot of women like that. The couple didn’t have a lot of single male friends left, but the many single women they knew all seemed to be buyers stuck in a seller’s market.
  • …This got Birger, a former economics writer for Fortune and Money, thinking: How could a man of that age be so cavalier about casting aside such an amazing woman? And why do we all have similar stories of incredible female friends trapped for years in dating hell? Why are there so many great single women? Where are all the great single men?
  • ..Using his background in economics and statistics, Birger sought out an answer. The result is his new book, Date-onomics: How Dating Became a Lopsided Numbers Game, a clever read with a sobering conclusion: There simply aren’t enough college-educated men to go around. For every four college-educated women in my generation, there are three college-educated men. The result? What Birger calls a “musical chairs” of the heart: As the men pair off with partners, unpartnered straight women are left with fewer and fewer options—and millions of them are eventually left with no options at all.
  • I sat down for a long talk with Birger and found out why boys aren’t graduating from college, why your best friend is single, and why more women should consider moving to Silicon Valley.

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Conservative, Church-Going Christian Guy Participates in Threesome, Jumps To Death / Masculinity So Fragile Twitter Hash Tag

Conservative, Church-Going Christian Guy Participates in Threesome, Jumps To Death

For any newbies to this blog:

I am right wing, conservative, and I was Republican.

(I am still right of center these days, but the GOP is deeply disappointing to me now (though not for most of the reasons liberals find the GOP disappointing), so I may be leaving the GOP, I have not decided on that  – and no, I am not a Democrat).

Furthermore, I was raised with traditional values in a Christian home. I was completely Christian up until around 2013 or so.

 I still have a lot of respect for conservative Christian values, but I now see that a lot of conservative Christians mis-use or misinterpret the Bible, and, in the process, some are, or can be, very rude, dismissive, or arrogant to anyone who doesn’t share their beliefs in toto.

(But no, I am not a supporter of liberal Christian theology, either. Those guys treat the Bible too much like Silly Putty.)

While I disagree with left wing, secular feminists about 95% or more of the time, I do believe they are occasionally right on some topics sometimes..

Unlike most conservatives, I do not automatically tune out liberal feminist arguments and concerns. I usually will take the time to actually go to their blogs, forums, and articles, read what they are saying, and try to understand where they are coming from.

Most other conservatives, however, have a knee-jerk tendency to out-right dismiss or ridicule left wing feminist concerns. I think this is a big mistake.

I am disappointed that my fellow conservatives do not really take the time to listen and understand what their ideological opponents are saying – I have learned in the last few years that even broken clocks are right twice a day.

Tyler Carlisle

Concerning the news story I am blogging about now:

This guy, Tyler Carlisle,  was a regular church goer.

I would take it that Carlisle would have considered himself a Christian, and it looks like his pastor or church thought that the younger church folks thought of this guy as a role model.

Stories like this just re-enforce my ever-growing belief that the “equally yoked” teaching, which is taught and believed by many Christians, as applies to dating and marriage, is a lot of Hooey, or largely irrelevant to adult singles.

(I grew up as a conservative Christian and used to be a subscriber to the “equally yoked” teaching, for anyone reading this who is new to this blog.)

You have, as in this example (link farther below), church-going Christian guys who are having pre-marital sex – via threesomes, no less – and then stabbing his friend in the neck in a jealous fit, and I don’t see his (or their) morals necessarily being any better or worse than your average Non-Christian.

There are probably Non-Christians with better morals than this.

I can also see (thanks to stories like this), how it’s better to be single and celibate. You sure do avoid a lot of grief in life without getting mixed up in love affairs or sexual acts.

Masculinity So Fragile

Some of my fellow right wingers and conservatives (that’s correct, yours truly who is writing this post is NOT a left winger) are having a cow over the “Masculinity So Fragile” hash tag on Twitter, but I think stories like this go to show there may be something to the concept.

I cannot imagine most women feeling so slighted during a sexual escapade or from not receiving what they believe is enough attention from a male suitor that they deal with it by stabbing someone in the neck and then jumping from a window.

This story shows that a lot of men do have a very deeply held sense of entitlement to sex from women.

(I have another news story to blog about some other time that is just as, if not, more troubling in some ways than this one, which also highlights male entitlement towards sex and women.)

This news story also shows that there is something deeply wrong with any religious group, and with a secular culture, that produces something like this – there is something very “off” and disturbing about attitudes towards dating, sex, and women that is being communicated to a lot of men.

For more examples of that, of male entitlement in dating, or towards women in general, please see links at the bottom of this post, under the “Related Posts” section.

(Link):  Student jumped to his death from window during threesome after stabbing friend in jealous rage

(Link):   Yale student jumped out of window during threesome after stabbing his best friend when he felt that he was getting too much attention from their female partner

  • Tyler Carlisle, 21 stabbed friend Alexander Michaud in the neck on May 26 and then jumped out a window to his death
  • The police report from the incident now reveals the two men had been having a threesome with another woman at the time
  • Michaud, now 22, told an officer that Carlisle had become jealous when he thought the girl was not paying enough attention to him and stabbed him
  • Carlisle was pronounced dead on the scene, less than one week after graduating from Yale
  • The unnamed female was unharmed in the incident, and she and Michaud still attend Yale

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Marriage is Not A Cure For Pedophilia, Making a Joke of Marriage: Christian Preacher Marries A Known Pedophile To Young Woman, Pedophile Then Apparently Molests His Own Biological Infant Son By That Woman

Marriage is Not A Cure For Pedophilia, Making a Joke of Marriage: Christian Preacher Marries A Known Pedophile To Young Woman, Pedophile Then Apparently Molests His Own Biological Infant Son By That Woman

How many ways can Christians, many of whom claim to support traditional marriage, manage to undermine and make a mockery of it? Here’s one more way.

(Maybe I should come up with some kind of Bingo card for this.)

Doug Wilson, who is a preacher of his own church (Christ Church), married a known pedophile, Steven Sitler, to a young lady named Katie Travis. (This is the (Link): same Doug Wilson who believes that celibacy is impossible for adults.)

A news story was published a few days ago which explains that Sitler and Sitler’s wife, Katie, had a baby boy together, and Sitler apparently (if I am understanding the article correctly) sexually abused his own biological infant son.

Here is one link about that:

(Link):  Idaho sex offender allowed to return home with child

Excerpt:

  • September 2015
  • By Samantha Malott
    Moscow-Pullman Daily News
  • MOSCOW, Idaho — A Latah County 2nd District Court judge ordered Tuesday that a convicted sex offender, Steven Sitler, must continue to have an approved chaperone present, within his direct line of sight, at all times he is around his infant child in the wake of new disclosures of “contact resulting in actual sexual stimulation.”

The Free Jinger forum has some background information on all this:

And (more background):

Said Annie B Good in that thread:

  • What gets me is that he [Douglas Wilson] married this desperate girl [Katie Travis], who felt she was an old maid at 23, he’s barred from contact with children, and yet he [Sitler] may be going to father children with a woman he’s not attracted to. Just a total mess. Christ Church should be ashamed of the behavior of their so called leaders.

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What Two Religions Tell Us About the Modern Dating Crisis (from TIME) (ie, Why Are Conservative Religious Women Not Marrying Even Though They Want to Be Married. Hint: It’s a Demographics Issue)

What Two Religions Tell Us About the Modern Dating Crisis (from TIME)

This article (see link to it much farther below) primarily focuses on Jews and Mormons, but it is still very interesting, and I think has things to say about other religious types.

I have done previous posts about the shortage of single adult men among Mormons (Link): here.

There is an interactive map on the page (the TIME article linked to below), where, if you run your mouse over it, right above it, it will tell you the ratio of men to women in your city.

One thing I think that is contributing to why Baptist, evangelical, and other Christian women are staying single so long – among the ones who want to marry – is the Christian belief in “equally yoked,” where Christians pressure Christian women to marry only Christian men.

I’ve already chucked that teaching aside a few years ago, but am not ready to date just yet. Whenever I do start dating again, this time, I am fully open and prepare to date Non-Christian men.

There really are no Christian men to date, and many of the ones who are self professing believers are creeps – serial rapists, killers, etc. (see (Link): this list on my blog for examples). If a Christian woman wants to marry these days, she will really have no choice BUT to marry an atheist or some other sort of Non-Christian.

(Link):  Sorry, ladies, there really is a man shortage (New York Post)

(Link): What Two Religions Tell Us About the Modern Dating Crisis (from TIME) by J. Birger

Believe it or not, the rise in Mormon breast implants and $100,000 Jewish dowries can explain why you’re alone on Friday night

Values.

That’s the one thing that always came up when I’d discuss theories on declining marriage rates or the rise of the hookup culture with my friends or family.

“Couldn’t it just be that times have changed?” people would ask.

Times have changed, and that is a good thing—especially the fading-away of cruel taboos that once stigmatized women who engaged in premarital sex or bore children out of wedlock.

Thing is, times change for a reason. The values question assumes that sexual mores loosen naturally from conservative to liberal. In reality, these values have ebbed and flowed throughout history, often in conjunction with prevailing sex ratios.

Today, mainstream dating guides tell the everything-going-for-her career woman it’s her fault she’s still single—she just needs to play hard to get or follow a few simple rules to snag Mr. Right. But the problem is a demographic one.

Multiple studies show that college-educated Americans are increasingly reluctant to marry those lacking a college degree. This bias is having a devastating impact on the dating market for college-educated women. Why?

According to 2012 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey, there are 5.5 million college-educated women in the U.S. between the ages of 22 and 29 versus 4.1 million such men. That’s four women for every three men. Among college grads age 30 to 39, there are 7.4 million women versus 6.0 million men—five women for every four men.

It’s not that He’s Just Not That Into You—it’s that There Just Aren’t Enough of Him.

Lopsided gender ratios don’t just make it statistically harder for college-educated women to find a match. They change behavior too. According to sociologists, economists and psychologists who have studied sex ratios throughout history, the culture is less likely to emphasize courtship and monogamy when women are in oversupply. Heterosexual men are more likely to play the field, and heterosexual women must compete for men’s attention.

Of course, tales of scarce men and sexual permissiveness in ancient Sparta won’t convince everyone, so I began to explore the demographics of modern religion. I wanted to show that god-fearing folks steeped in old-fashioned values are just as susceptible to the effects of shifting sex ratios as cosmopolitan, hookup-happy 20-somethings who frequent Upper East Side wine bars.

Eventually I hit pay dirt.

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Pat Robertson Feigns Ignorance At Allegations He’s Been Insensitive Towards Older Single Christian Women Who Cannot Find Marriage Partners

Pat Robertson Feigns Ignorance At Allegations He’s Been Insensitive Towards Older Single Christian Women Who Cannot Find Marriage Partners

So some lady who is an older single Christian woman writes in to Pat Robertson’s show to ask him why he is so hard on older single women.

I don’t know about her, but in my own post here, by “older” I am referring to women over the age of 35, not only or necessarily senior citizens.

You can see and hear her question for yourself here, on CBN’s / 700 Club’s site:

(Link):  Lack Of Eligible Christian Prospects

On You Tube:

(Link):  Bring It On-Line: Lack of Eligible Christian Prospects

In answering that question, Robertson claims he doesn’t know what she’s talking about. He does not feel he has been horrible or rude towards older single women. But he has.

I think she’s referring to previous episodes such as:

Then we have other incidents of Robertson victim-blaming women, such as:

Some of Robertson’s attitudes towards women, especially older single women (or ones who are divorced) are sometimes sexist and victim-blaming.

In regards to today’s broadcast, which again, can be viewed here,

(Link):  Lack Of Eligible Christian Prospects

In his reply to this particular woman, Robertson keeps referring to single women as “widows”.

Hey, Pat, there are boat loads full of Christian women ages 30 and up WHO HAVE NEVER MARRIED, and some might be DIVORCED. So why do you keep assuming all women who have a hard time getting a man to marry are WIDOWS?

EQUALLY YOKED TEACHING

Robertson coaches this woman that the Bible says Christian single women should not marry unbelievers.

Please do a search on my blog for the phrases or tags “equally yoked” or “unequally yoked.” Please disregard Robertson’s quotation of the Bible about Paul’s comments about widows should only marry other Christians or stay single.

Whether you are widowed, divorced, or never married, you will never, ever get married if you keep holding out for a Christian spouse.

NON CHRISTIANS SOMETIMES MAKE BETTER SPOUSES

Just a couple of weeks ago, I was reading another testimony by a Christian woman who was married once before, to a Christian, but her Christian husband was a louse and a jerk, so she divorced him. She got remarried, and this time to an atheist.

She was telling the people in this online conversation I was reading that her atheist husband displays more of the (to use Christian jargon here) “fruits of the Spirit” – he is more loving, gentle, attentive, giving, and supportive and so on – than her so-called Christian husband ever was.

Ladies, I know it’s tough, especially if you are still a serious Christian who is dead set on following the Bible and want to honor God, obey God, and your understanding of the Bible, but the sad reality is you are not going to marry, and not by the time you are 30 or 35 if you keep having faith, praying, and hoping God will send you a Christian spouse, or if you keep showing up to churches every week hoping to bump into a Christian Mr. Right.

I’m not saying you are guaranteed a spouse if you jettison typical Christian approaches or targeting Christian men to marry, but I think your odds of marrying may likely increase if you stop chasing after only one very narrow and elusive sub-set of men: adult, single Christian men.

If you start including atheists, agnostics, Jewish guys, etc, into consideration as potential husbands, you are probably more likely to get more dates and eventually marry.

I think the biggest criteria you have to consider is character – is the guy loving towards you, does he treat you well, does he support you and your goals in life, etc? And not, “Is he a Baptist” or “Is he a Jesus believer” or “does he attend a conservative Christian church weekly.”

ON THE LONELY OR SINGLES BEING PUT INTO FAMILIES

As far as single people being alone because they don’t have a spouse, Robertson says God puts lonely single people in families, which is really a sh*tload of garbage.

Using myself as an example:

Ever since my mother died years ago, I’ve not been “put in a family.” I prayed for a few years for a friend or two, or someone to go to, but God has not answered that prayer. I’m still stumbling along alone.

I tried attending churches, but church people either shamed me or lectured me to coming for them with my emotional pain and needs – despite the fact the Bible tells Christians to “weep with those who weep.”

My actual family – I have some siblings and a father, and some extended family – they are totally unsupportive. Some yell at me, shame me for asking for help. I’ve not had anyone to turn to. So no, Pat, God does not put the single or the hurting or the lonely “in families.”

SATAN AS A FATHER IN LAW

Robertson also quotes Billy Graham’s old chestnut (I swear I’ve heard this a million times since I was a kid), that “the Christian who marries a Non-Christian has Satan for a father- in- law.”

When I was younger, that observation seemed somewhat wise to me.

Now that I’m older, I think it’s rather condescending, especially in light of the tons of examples I’ve seen in divorce forums by Christian women who said their church-going Christian husband had many affairs on them, turned out to be a pedophile, or was emotionally or physically abusive.

Don’t forget (Link): this list I have of Christian married men who molest kids or who beat their wives.

And again, I’ve seen plenty of Christian women who were previously married to jerk Christian men who then went to marry Non-Christians who say their Non Christian husband is way more considerate and kind to them than their Christian husband ever was. I no longer put any stock in the “be equally yoked” teaching.

As far as Billy Graham’s comment that “the Christian who marries a Non-Christian has Satan for a father in law,” some Christians marry Christian men who are Satan. They end up having to divorce him (the jerk Christian man) to get peace and safety.

Anyway, Robertson has in fact, in previous episodes, been rather insensitive, blaming, or sexist towards older, never married single women.

(Link):  Bring It On-Line: Lack of Eligible Christian Prospects

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Related Posts:

(Link): Pat Robertson’s Incredibly Insensitive Advice to Gail the Unmarried Woman 

(Link): 60 Year Old, Never- Married Woman Asks Christian TV Host Pat Robertson If Some Are Just Not Meant to Marry

(Link): Pat Robertson Says 44 Year old Never Married Woman Who Wants Marriage is “Desperate”

(Link): Cathy The Single Woman Asks Pat Robertson Why God Has Not Replied to Her Prayers for Years to Send Her a Spouse

(Link): Cathy The Single Woman Asks Pat Robertson Why God Has Not Replied to Her Prayers for Years to Send Her a Spouse

(Link):  Prayer and The 700 Club  – Some Observations and Suggestions

(Link):  Women: Stop Asking Pat Robertson For Romantic Relationship Advice – Whether You Are Divorced or Single  – Pat Robertson Replies to Letter from Four Time Divorced Woman Who Wants to Know If God Will Send Her a Non-Abusive Husband

(Link):  Christian TV Show Pat Robertson Says Wives Who Want Emotional Support from a Husband Are Immature and Should Not Expect Emotional Support

(Link): Celibate Christian Woman Asks Christian Host (Pat Robertson) Why God Will Not Send Her a Husband

(Link):  Why are Working Women Starting to Unplug from Their Churches? by Sandra Crawford Williamson (Also discusses never married adult women)

(Link): The Irrelevancy To Single or Childless or Childfree Christian Women of Biblical Gender Complementarian Roles / Biblical Womanhood Teachings

(Link): If the Family Is Central, Christ Isn’t

(Link):  More Women Are Leaving Behind Religious Identities For Something More Spiritual

(Link): Lies The Church Tells Single Women (by Sue Bohlin)

(Link): Are Marriage and Family A Woman’s Highest Calling? by Marcia Wolf – and other links that address the Christian fallacy that a woman’s most godly or only proper role is as wife and mother

(Link):  The Masculinity Myth: The Real Reason Men Don’t Go to Church by the Evangelical Pulpit

(Link):  Southern Baptist’s New Sexist “Biblical Woman” Site – Attitudes in Total Face Palm of a Site One Reason Among Many This Unmarried and Childless Woman Is Saying Toodle-Oo to Christianity

(Link): Why Unmarried – Single Christians including MEN Should Be Concerned about the Gender Role Controversy

Mass Murderer Houser, Equally Yoked Teaching, Sexism Condoned and Advocated by Some Christians

Mass Murderer Houser, Equally Yoked Teaching, Sexism Condoned and Advocated by Some Christians

Several news stories about the gunman who shot up several people in a Louisiana movie theater recently mention a few facts about the guy: he loathed women, wanted women’s roles limited in churches, didn’t feel that women should have jobs, and he seemingly was a Christian.

Further, Houser agreed with and supported Westboro Baptist Church, which I realize, is not much of a church.

I have not so far seen a clear statement that Houser accepted Jesus as his Savior or considered himself a Christian, but based upon his affinity for Westboro, Judeo-Christian values, and his stated belief that women should be limited in churches, I will go out on a limb here and assume this guy considered himself to be a Christian.

Christians like to get hung up and quibble over things. They’d like to argue that someone like Houser was not possibly a real Christian. Maybe and maybe not, but, really, how is a Christian woman supposed to tell if a self-professing Christian man is a “real” one or not?

If the Christian man in question professes Christ and more or less shows outward appearances of being what a Christian is, how could such a woman be expected to know that some where down the road, if she marries the guy, that he will go nuts with hatred towards women or whatever, take a gun to a movie theater and kill several people? You can’t really know this sort of thing.

I was at a site over a year ago – and I think I mentioned this here on my blog – where there was this testimony from this devout Christian woman who found out after twenty some odd years of marriage that her regular, church-attending, Jesus professing husband was a pedophile! He was looking at child porn regularly, and I think he was arrested for molesting children, if I recall correctly.

I don’t want to spend a lot of time on this next point, but Christian GC (gender complementarianism) is very enticing to abusive men, as it gives them a cover and excuse to mistreat their wives and harbor sexist ideals and practices towards women.

This Houser guy is on record for saying he thinks women should not be permitted to work outside the home, and that women should be limited in church. Both views are also very prevalent among other Christian GCs, though some may be fine with women holding “secular” (outside the home) employment.

One flaw of GC is that those who adhere to it cannot agree on its practice or scope. They agree that women should be kept with boots on their throats by men (they refer to this with the sugar coated term “servant leadership”), but they cannot agree on precisely how and where and when this should be carried out.

Here are several news articles which mention all these issues in regards to Houser.

After reading all the following, tell me, what sense or justification for “equally yoked” is there?

And why should Christian women risk marrying Christian men, many of whom buy into GC, which Houser did as well, and it fueled his mistrust of, and hatred of, women?

Please also note that this Houser person was married at one time. His wife finally divorced him because he was violent. (I think Houser was also a father.)

I have to point out his marital status, because Christians say that marriage (and parenthood) matures a person and makes him more godly and responsible.

Obviously this is a big, fat lie and is not biblical, one reason of several is that I keep seeing news story after news story of Christian husbands who murder people, beat their wives, molest kids, use porn, and do other horrible things.

If marriage and parenthood purify people and make them godly, we would not see so many stories of Christian (or Non Christian) husbands who commit sins against other people or against their wives and children. But we do see such stories and see them regularly.

Being a “family man” and in a “nuclear family” did not prevent this Houser guy from hating women and shooting and killing people.

(Link):  Lafayette Gunman Had History of Domestic Violence, Issues With Women

(Link):  Lafayette gunman who killed two women during ‘Trainwreck’ aired radical anti-feminist views on local TV by Travis Gettys

  • The gunman who killed two women and wounded nine other moviegoers in Louisiana had a long history of anger and violence toward women.
  • John Russell Houser, who fatally shot himself after police thwarted his apparent escape plans, appeared at least a dozen times on a television talk show in the 1990s, where he would (Link): make outrageous comments against women and feminism.
  • “Whatever he wanted to talk about, it would generate calls,” (Link): said Calvin Floyd, who hosted WLTZ-TV’s “Rise & Shine” program. “He was anti-abortion. The best I can recall, Rusty had an issue with feminine rights. He was opposed to women having a say in anything. You could talk with him a few minutes, and you would know he had a high IQ but there was a lot missing with him.”
  • The 59-year-old Houser fired off 13 rounds, pausing to reload, during a screening Thursday evening of “Trainwreck,” a comedy starring Amy Schumer that has been variously praised and criticized for its feminist themes about sexuality.
  • The gunman, who went by Rusty Houser, was estranged from his wife and daughter.

  • His wife, Kellie Houser, filed for divorce in March, about seven years after taking out a temporary protective order against her husband — who she said suffered from a variety of mental health issues.

  • “Sometimes he forgets to take his medication and sometimes he forgets to eat, which affects his behavior as well,” (Link): his wife told police.

  • Kellie Houser said she called police on her husband in April 2008 after he became angry at his daughter for marrying “so young” and told her the wedding would not take place, although she said he did not make any specific threats.

  • Police said Houser, who was evicted from his home in March, had been previously married.

  • Floyd said he was not surprised when Houser, who argued against women in the workplace and advocated violence against abortion providers, was identified as the gunman.

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A Response To J D Hall’s Vomit-tastic Post about Village Church’s Handling of Certain Members, Covenants, and Marriages

A Response To J D Hall’s Vomit-tastic Post about Village Church’s Handling of Certain Members, Covenants, and Marriages 

Before we get to the post by J D Hall:

Background:

  • The Village Church (TVC) of Texas has placed Karen, who was once a member of theirs, under church discipline because she did not, according to them, abide by the church covenant she signed.
  • Instead of conferring with the church on what to do, Karen, on her own, sought an annulment from the state of Texas, once she discovered her then-spouse, Jordan, was a pedophile.
  • Karen said she spent about 50 days conferring with other Christians (not from the TVC), and in prayer, mulling over what to do, before seeking the annulment.
  • This action of hers has ticked off TVC leadership, because Karen did not get their permission to get the annulment.
  • Matt Chandler is the lead preacher of TVC.

You can read additional reporting of this situation here (additional material is at the bottom of this post):

Here is the page I am responding to:

(Link, off site): A Rational Response to the Criticism of Village Church  by  J D Hall, Pulpit and Pen blog

The covenant that Hall is so rigorously defending – TVC’s membership covenant – here does not even mention annulments.

As Karen explains (off site Link, Source):

  • …it is worth noting here that although The Village Church claims [in their e-mail] that “We see an annulment as a subcategory of what Scripture defines as a divorce in Mark 10:9” …, this cannot be found anywhere in their Membership Covenant or Bylaws.
  • In signing their Membership Covenant shortly after my 24th birthday, I had agreed to nothing in regards to the possibility of annulment should I come to realize that my marriage had been a complete sham from the beginning.
  • There is a vast difference between a divorce and a marriage that is voided on the grounds of fraud, and I had no way of knowing that the leadership of The Village Church would respond to it in this fashion.

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Some Christians Have Some Very Strange, Unsettling, Creepy, or Authoritarian Ideas About Marriage, Divorce, or Mate Selection – and they think they should make your life choices for you

Some Christians Have Some Very Strange, Unsettling,  Creepy, or Authoritarian Ideas About Marriage, Divorce, or Mate Selection – and they think they should make your life choices for you

This isn’t a post I want to spend a lot of time on.

I was planning on maybe later doing a post about the church – Village Church – who has put a Christian wife, Karen, into discipline because she anulled her marriage to her spouse, Jordan Root, as soon as she discovered he was a pedophile.

Root admitted to being a pedophile, according to different sources I read.

Root was not only using child porn, but if I remember right, some sources say he admitted to his wife he molested two young girls.

You can read more about that story here (post on Watchkeep blog):

(Link): She Speaks: The Village Church protects a confessed pedophile and “disciplines” his wife, a brave young woman and missionary

Most women would in fact dump a husband the moment they learned their spouse is a pedophile, and most normal fathers of those women would want their daughter to dump their pedo husband pronto.

But not the fathers and other men of Village Church, oh no.

Yes, as if all that is not bad enough, there are a bunch of screw ball and naive Christians on social media scolding Karen for leaving her spouse – they keep insisting it was wrong for her to divorce the man (she got an annulment, not a divorce).
Some Christians want to treat you as though you are a five year old child, incapable of making choices for yourself, and they even want to exert this control over your marital status.
These control freak Christians believe they or their church should be able to call the shots and tell you who, when, or if you marry, or when or how or if you may divorce.
It’s utterly insane and very creepy and highly unbiblical.
There are Christians who apparently feel it is wrong for a person to divorce another person for any reason, or even in the extreme case of pedophilia.

I have noticed that some Christians have some very shoddy ideas of mate selection, or reasons they feel a person can divorce, that border on the absurd.

Take this, for example:

Yes, that thar is an example of Christian men who think Christian single women should marry a male Christian pornography user or addict, even if  those things are personal deal breakers for the women in question, and all to bolster the falling marriage rate among Christians.

That Christian sociologist, Regnerus, wants women to set aside their right to make their choices for their own lives, in who they marry, to satisfy his and evangelical Christianity’s preferences and insecurities.

It’s none of this joker’s business if you decide to forgo marrying a Christian porn user.

Next up, we have this lunacy, Christians who think Christian singles should marry Muslims in order to bridge a gap between Muslims and Christians:

Then there was this July 2012 headline from (Link): The Wartburg Watch blog:

  • The Real Doug Wilson Encouraged & Presided Over the Marriage of Serial Pedophile

In that case, we have preachers or Christian personalities encouraging young, single Christian women to marry known pedophiles, and one even presided over the marriage of a pedophile to a woman.

 In regards to the situation of The Village Church, where a lady named Karen left her spouse Jordan, who admitted being a pedophile:

Then there’s insanity such as this (link to Tweet):

(Tweet by) JB @tallangrybob

A response to that:

(Tweet by) Dee Parsons (Link):

  •  We should all marry pedophiles and prostitutes ala Hosea. Great TVC exegesis.

First of all, the New Testament says it is actually better to stay single than to marry (see (link): 1 Corinthians 7).

Secondly, God permits divorce in both the Old and New Testaments:

  • Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. (Matthew 19)

Churches may not like divorce. You personally reading this may not like divorce. But the fact is, God allows people to get divorces.

God permits divorce not just in cases of adultery, but in other cases as well:

You know, part of me would still like to marry one day, but I see the utter nonsense, or weirdness, or horrifying legalism some Christians insist other Christians should live through marriage-wise, and I am so glad I have never married.

From Christians expecting Christian women to marry pornography addicts, pedophiles, and Muslims, to Christians who say Christian women cannot or should not divorce pedophiles or abusers, there seems to be no end to the heavy yokes and bondage some Christians and churches want to place on women.

Jesus would not have approved of any of it.

I think a lot of these Christians and churches care more about the institution of marriage, or how the world perceives their churches, than they do in how women are treated.

A clue that Christians have turned marriage into an idol is that it is obvious they care more about a couple maintaining an empty, hollow, shell of a marriage, to keep up appearances with the world, or within their own culture, than they do the welfare of the people in said marriage.

As far as equally yoked teachings are concerned, I am convinced now more than ever that character matters more than religious self identity; if I ever come across a smart, cute, atheist who treats me well, I would marry him in a heart beat, not Mr. “I Molest Children” Christian, or Mr. “I Think It’s OK For Me To Abuse Any Wife Of Mine” Christian, or Mr. “I Look At Porn All Day” Christian.

If you are a single Christian woman contemplating marriage: be very cautious. First, don’t let these Christian writers and preachers advise you who to marry. Determine for yourself who you want to marry.

Secondly, be aware that if you marry a pervert or abuser, most churches are going to expect you to stay with the creep, no matter what. Most churches are very keen on keeping even the most abusive marriages intact, because they believe divorce is the unpardonable sin and sets a bad example.

Most churches will not care about you, your welfare, or your mental or physical health if you are in an abusive marriage, or some other kind of troubled marriage – all they care about is shaming and guilt tripping you into staying with your loser of a spouse, should you marry a loser.

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Related Posts:

(Link):  Stupid Things Naive Christians Say (About Adultery, Divorce) from Divorce Minister Blog

(Link): Divorce. Unpardonable sin? (from CWO) / How Churches Fail the Divorced (article)

Married Pastor Stole $60,000 From Church, Police Say — May Have Spent Some On Gay Sex Sites – Cops Caught Him Having Sex in Van

Pastor Stole $60,000 From Church, Police Say — May Have Spent Some On Gay Sex Sites  – Cops Caught Him Having Sex in Van

Now, I do know of some Christians who I respect, who run services for Christian women who are in abusive Christian marriages, and they believe in “be equally yoked” (that Christians should only marry or remarry other Christians), but I have to respectfully at this time in my life part company with them on that particular matter.

There are so many Christian men (whether they are “real” Christians or false converts is a moot argument) who are abusive, there is little difference if you marry (or remarry) a Christian or a NonChristian. I think the most important criteria is if the guy treats you well

One of the sites below has a screen capture of this pastor’s online dating profile – on his profile, he states that he is MARRIED.

(I assume he’s married to a woman; the sites don’t specify, but as most churches would likely not hire a married homosexual preacher, I’m guessing he’s married to a woman.)

This, of course, blows the evangelical, Reformed, and Baptist notion out of the water that marriage is a required life stage to make a person more godly, sexually pure, and mature.

These articles say that this guy is 44 years old, but based on the photos of him they have on their sites, he looks more like 64 or older. So I am not buying that this guy is 40-something.

(Link): Kingsport pastor charged with felony theft from church

(Link):  Pastor accused of stealing money from church

Excerpts:

  • A Sullivan County Grand Jury indicted 44-year-old Boyd Holder of theft over $60,000 and money laundering.
  • …Investigators … found “Holder had siphoned in excess of $60,000 of church funds for his own personal use or gain.”
  • One of the witnesses on the court presentment is listed as “Online Buddies,” which is a gay Web site.

(Link):  Pastor Stole $60,000 From Church, Police Say — May Have Spent Some On Gay Sex Sites  – Cops Caught Him Having Sex in Van

  • Boyd Holder, the 44-year-old pastor of Victory Apostolic Church in Kingsport, Tennessee, found himself in big trouble this week. On Wednesday, the man of the cloth was indicted by a grand jury and charged with stealing more than $60,000 from his church. As if that wasn’t bad enough, Holder was also slapped with a money laundering indictment.
  • …Through his attorney, Holder has denied any wrongdoing — even in connection with an incident last December when, according to police, Holder was caught having sex with a man in a van owned by the church, parked in a lot behind a vacant building.

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Man Suspected Of Using Bible Study To Molest Children In His Home

Man Suspected Of Using Bible Study To Molest Children In His Home

Yep, another fine example of why I gave up on the “be equally yoked” teaching, because even Bible using, Bible believing Christian men rape little children.

(Link): Man arrested for sex crimes on juveniles

(Link): Bible Study Teacher Arrested On Multiple Counts Of Sexual Molestation

(Link): Man Suspected Of Using Bible Study To Molest Children In His Home

  • A man has been arrested in Corona, California, for allegedly teaching Bible study as an excuse to lure children into his private home and molest them.
  •  According to CBS Local Los Angeles, 54-year-old Bible study teacher Shawn Edward Shaffer of Corona was taken into custody on Monday on suspicion of sexually molesting juveniles under the age of 16. Police say the man was possibly conducting Bible studies for youths in his home, and using that opportunity to take sexual advantage of minors. The Bible study teacher has not been officially charged, but authorities are investigating the truth behind his peculiar private Bible classes.
  • The Bible teacher is being detained at Robert Presley Detention Center in Corona on $3 million bail, according to police officials. He is facing multiple accounts of sexual molestation of minors, which could mean Shaffer was regularly using Bible study as a trick to continually bring victims into his home.
  • It’s unclear how many children were victimized by Shaffer’s Bible class ruse, because detectives were only recently made aware of the man’s crimes by fully grown men. Several adult males have come forward with allegations about the Bible teacher, claiming that they were sexually abused as children within the city of Corona. Authorities haven’t confirmed yet if these men are claiming to have attended Shaffer’s Bible study, but the implication seems to be that the man were victims of the Bible teacher.
  • According to Inland News Today, Shaffer not only used Bible lessons as a method to lure children into his home. He would also hang around local skate parks, presumably to speak to the juveniles and advertise his Bible class.
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Related

(Link): Married Preacher With Two Kids of His Own Accused of 37 Sex Acts With Two Kids – According to News Story, He Also Sexually Harassed Female Co-Worker

(Link):  Teen-Raping Texas Pastor Gets life in Prison After using the Bible to Justify Abusing Women – Equally Yoked is BUNK

(Link): Youth Pastor Molests Daughter, Lead Pastor Dedicates Children to Satan

(Link): Married Youth Pastor Father of Four Caught Raping and Molesting Several Little Boys claims the molesting kept the boys sexually pure and cures them of homosexuality

(Link): Married Father Who Worked as Police Officer Raped Wife After Drugging Her and Murdered Her and Their Children

(Link): Father Has Sex With His Own Children, Forces Them to Have Sex with Dog, His Wife and Ex Wife Participate

Prominent Married Christian Advocate for Persecuted Christians Resigns After Sex Assault Conviction

Prominent Married Christian Advocate for Persecuted Christians Resigns After Sex Assault Conviction

I believe this says he is married and had converted to Christianity at a young age. Another example of why Be Equally Yoked is a waste of a single woman’s time.

(Link): Prominent Advocate for Persecuted Christians Resigns After Sex Assault Conviction

Excerpts

  • Barnabas Aid defends its work as ‘much bigger than one man’ after jury rules Patrick Sookhdeo groped employee and intimidated witnesses.

Christian Man to Pregnant Girlfriend: Convert to My Religion or Have an Abortion

Christian Man to Pregnant Girlfriend: Convert to My Religion or Have an Abortion

I’ve said it before, and I’ll keep saying it: there is no advantage or benefit to Christian single women to keep following the “Be Equally Yoked” teaching in regards to dating and marriage when so many (I did not say ALL but MANY, or a significant portion of) Christian men turn out to be so deviant.

I would hope and assume if a man claims to follow the teachings of Jesus, he would be a person of integrity, compassion, and grace, but more often than not, that does not seem to be true. Here is another example.

(Link): Christian Man to Pregnant Girlfriend: Convert to My Religion or Have an Abortion

  • Jan 23, 2015
  • A Christian man got his girlfriend pregnant and urged her to have an abortion. He said that he would marry her and let her have the baby only if she would convert to Christianity for him.
  • However, she was hesitant, not wanting to embrace a religion for the wrong reasons. Therefore, he continued to pressure her to have an abortion. He was afraid, he said, what his church would think. And even though he was fine having sex with her, he would not marry a woman who was not a Christian.
  • [long quote by the woman about the situation]
  • Sadly, she had an abortion.

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Related Posts:

(Link): Christian Single Women: Another Example of Why You Should Abandon the “Be Equally Yoked” Teaching: 21-Y-O Christianity Student, Children’s Minister Charged With Murdering Fiancée He Was to Wed in August; Made It Look Like Suicide

(Link): Christian Women Sexually Assaulted by Christian Men At Christian College – College Blames The Victims / Re: Patrick Henry College

(Link):  19-Year-Old Student at Christian College Bleeds to Death After Secretly Delivering Stillborn Baby in Dorm Room

Conservative Jews question notions on dating, marrying only Jews – Equally Yoked

Conservative Jews question notions on dating, marrying only Jews

It’s interesting to see people of other faiths question this (intermarriage).

(Link): Conservative Jews question notions on dating, marrying only Jews

As for Christians, I no longer accept or agree with the “Be Equally Yoked” teaching.

If you’d like to know why I’m no longer on board with it, I have several posts on that topic, including, but not limited to these posts:

If you do a search for the phrase “equally yoked” using this blog’s search feature, you can find even more, similar posts.

I’ve also done posts about Mormon women having problems finding Mormon husbands – there are more Mormon, single women than there are Mormon, single men.

When you tell women it is sin or wrong for them to marry outside of their faith, you are dooming them to a life time of singleness.

And I use the word “doom” there because some religious ladies want very much to marry – I was one. I find myself single past age of 40, however.

I’ve had to learn to grieve and cope with and accept being single, and there were next to no resources for me; I had to find my way alone. Most literature by Christians about singles like me shames and blames me for my singleness, rather than help me navigate my life as it is.

(Link): Conservative Jews question notions on dating, marrying only Jews

A few excerpts:

  • Jan 08, 2015 by Lauren Markoe
  • (RNS) Whether Jews should only date and marry other Jews is not a new question, but it’s one that has come into stark relief in recent weeks.

    In two separate instances in December, groups within Conservative Judaism—the second-largest movement of American Jews—appeared to challenge some of their own rules that discourage interfaith dating and matrimony:

    • A prominent Conservative rabbi asked his Massachusetts congregation to consider allowing him to preside at weddings between Jews and non-Jews, as long as the couples committed to raising Jewish children.
    • The Conservative movement’s youth group adopted a policy that seemed to relax a ban prohibiting its leaders from dating non-Jews.
  • Unlike rabbis in Reform Judaism, the largest American stream of Judaism, Conservative rabbis may not preside at interfaith marriages. Conservative Judaism has stood fast on this, even as it has embraced female rabbis and same-sex weddings and welcomed the non-Jewish spouses of congregants into its synagogues.
  • But Rabbi Wesley Gardenswartz of Temple Emanuel in Newton, Massachusetts, said he floated the proposal because he wanted to keep families connected to his synagogue.
  • … “Jewish tradition says Jewish marriage occurs between Jewish people,” she said. “As rabbis, our role is to teach, inspire, and promulgate that tradition.”
  • … To Rabbi Rick Jacobs, head of the Union for Reform Judaism, the Conservative movement stands at the same crossroads where the Reform stood about a generation ago. As he put it, an increasing number of Jews are recognizing that “intermarriage is a fact of life, as gravity is.”

That paper also contains quotes from conservative Jews who bemoan this (ie, intermarriage) as an affront to Judaism. Christians who are staunchly against Unequally Yoked marriages are the same way.

Once you start putting your religion, or rules, or the institution of marriage, above the welfare and happiness of human beings, you’ve made an idol out of marriage.

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Related:

(Link): When Mormonism Sounds Like Gender Complementarian Christianity – Also: Man Shortage in Mormonism Just Like Christianity

(Link): Should Christian Women Marry Non Christian Men? (discussed at another blog) Be Not Unequally Yoked Dangerous Teaching to Single Christian Women

(Link): ‘Chained wives,’ refused Jewish divorces by their husbands, take to social media

(Link):  Forced Child Marriages in Canadian Jewish Cult

(Link): Forget About Being ‘Equally Yoked’ – Article: ‘My Abusive ‘Christian’ Marriage’ (written by a lady at another blog)

(Link): Wife of Christian Preacher Shoots, Kills Him, Recounts Years of Physical and Sexual Abuse – So Much for the Equally Yoked Teaching and the Notion that Christian married sex is Mind Blowing

(Link): Christian Host Pat Robertson Tells Christian Woman Who Married Christian Man Who Turned Out to Be Totally Unethical That She has Discernment of a Slug – Single Women: toss Be Equally Yoked teaching in the trash can

Married Preacher With Two Kids of His Own Accused of 37 Sex Acts With Two Kids – According to News Story, He Also Sexually Harassed Female Co-Worker

Married Preacher With Two Kids of His Own Accused of 37 Sex Acts With Two Kids – According to News Story, He Also Sexually Harassed Female Co-Worker

(h/t to Stuff Christian Culture Likes which is where I first saw this news story)

Jan 8, 2015. As of today, the preacher (or someone who has access to his blog) has set his blog to private.

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Christian single ladies: what have I told you before? Just because a guy is a Christian (whether he was truly converted or not is IRRELEVANT, do not get sidetracked into these “oh, he must never have truly accepted Jesus to begin with” conversations), or just because a man works as preacher, or goes to a church regularly, is not a guarantee he is safe to date or marry!

The Equally Yoked teaching is ineffective and is keeping you needlessly single – consider marrying Non Christian men, as long as those men have good character and don’t abuse you (or don’t abuse others).

Christians also often teach -especially to teens- that marital sex is great and it’s “mind blowing.” How awesome, mind blowing, and satisfying is married sex when perverts like the one in this story are diddling children and making passes at adult women? Christians need to re-think how they teach sex.

Christians keep telling culture that marriage and being a parent is necessary to mature a person or make a person more godly, but I keep seeing news reports of married parents who are absolute deviants. Such as.

(Link): Oregon pastor accused of 37 sex crimes with underage boy, girl 

  • Jan 2015
  • GRESHAM, Ore. – An evangelical pastor and former police officer is facing more than 30 charges of sex crimes involving two children, one boy and one girl. James Daniel Worley, 42, has been a senior pastor at Powell Valley Church in Gresham since 2012, according to the (Link): church’s website.The indictment filed Dec. 16 in Deschutes County charges Worley with 37 counts, including two counts of rape, 20 counts of sexual abuse, 11 counts of sodomy, one count of attempted sodomy and three counts of (Link): using a child in a display of sexually explicit conduct.In the latter three counts, the documents state Worley “did unlawfully and knowingly induce (the victims) … to engage in sexually explicit conduct for a person to observe.”

    According to the indictment, the alleged abuse occurred between Sept. 1, 2002 and June 30, 2004 while the children were under the ages of 14 and 12.

    Deschutes County prosecutors would not reveal how Worley knew the alleged victims but did say they did not believe Worley was a pastor during the time of the alleged incidents. However, prosecutors told KATU they are concerned there are more victims.

  • Worley was booked into the Multnomah County Jail on Dec. 30, and on that day he (Link): posted a tweet that reads, “Stormy weather has arrived. About to find out two-things: who our real friends are and how our God glorifies himself. #Psalm35 #GlorytoGod.”Worley is active on social media as well as his blog, called (Link): Pastor Jamie’s Blog, where he spreads the message of Jesus and offers advice on how to lead better, more spiritual lives.In one blog post he writes
  • /// start quote
  • What kind of witness for Christ are you? Are you an effective one? Here’s a better question, do you feel that you share the love of Jesus for the world with the world in a valuable way? I’m going to go out on a limb, using only my personal experience in conversations with believers of all ages and maturities, and say that you’re either thinking, “no, not really.”
  • end quote///
  • According to (Link): biography on the blog, Worley is married with four kids and graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree in Psychology from Southwest Baptist University in Bolivar, Mississippi as well as a Master of Arts in Pastoral Studies from Multnomah Biblical Seminary in Portland, Oregon.He writes that his favorite book is the Bible and that his passion is to “spend my life seeking the lost and equipping the found, all for God’s glory.”

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Ex-Church Usher Found Guilty of Hiring Hitman to Kill His Wife So He Can Pursue Kinky Sexual Lifestyle With His Mistress

Ex-Church Usher Found Guilty of Hiring Hitman to Kill His Wife So He Can Pursue Kinky Sexual Lifestyle With His Mistress

But… but… Christians insist that marriage makes people more godly and giving! We single adults are supposedly a bunch of immature dweebs or murderous thugs. (One article also says this guy is a father.)

And “being equally yoked” looks like nonsense to me, in regards to marriage, when so many church attending, self professing Christian men are sexual deviants or murderers.

(Link): Ex-Church Usher Found Guilty of Hiring Hitman to Kill His Wife

  • After a two-month trial, a Detroit jury on Thursday found a suburban businessman guilty of hiring his handyman to kill his wife.
  • Robert Bashara, 57, was convicted of first-degree murder and four additional charges in the death of his wife, Jane, a marketing executive. He faces life in prison. Prosecutors said Bashara told handyman Joseph Gentz to carry out the killing.
  • After Jane Bashara’s body was found in the backseat of her Mercedes Benz SUV on Jan. 25, 2012, in Detroit, her husband blamed her death on urban street violence, prosecutors said.
  • Gentz, the handyman, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the killing and is serving 17 to 28 years in prison.
  • Prosecutors said Bashara, a former church usher and Rotary Club president, wanted his wife dead so he could engage in a lifestyle of bondage, discipline and sadomasochism with his girlfriend.

(Link):   Detroit-area man, who lived secret life as ‘Master Bob,’ convicted in plot to kill wife

  • DETROIT (AP) — A Detroit-area man was convicted Thursday of murder in a plot to kill his wife so he could devote himself to a life of bondage and domination in an upper-class suburb with women who called him “Master Bob.”
  • The salacious trial of Bob Bashara revealed his secret life in Grosse Pointe Park: a former Rotary Club president who used cocaine and hosted men and women at a sex dungeon under a bar called the Hard Luck Lounge.
  • Jane Bashara was strangled by a handyman in the couple’s garage in 2012 before her body was discovered in her Mercedes-Benz in a Detroit alley.
  • … In closing arguments, assistant prosecutor Rob Moran asked jurors, “What man would make his own elderly mother hide a gun for him? What kind of man has two women come to the marital bed and have sex with them while his wife is out of town?”Is that what a man does who’s in love with his wife? No. It’s the ultimate act of betrayal,” he said.

    Jane Bashara was a marketing executive with a long record of service to her church and community. Nearly three years after her murder, there still are lawn signs that say, “Justice For Jane.”

(Link):  ‘Bondage master’ businessman Bob Bashara found guilty of killing wife so he could devote himself to life of domination with upper class suburban women

  • Trial of the 57-year-old revealed his secret life in Grosse Point Park, Detroit
  • Former rotary club president hosted men and women in a sex dungeon
  • Jane Bashara was strangled by a handyman in the couple’s garage in 2012 
  • Her body was then found in a Mercedes-Benz in an alleyway in the city  
  • Joe Gentz said Bashara coerced him into committing the crime 
  • Bashara repeatedly professed his innocence following his wife’s death
  • He even attended a candlelit vigil with his community in the aftermath 
  • The father-of-two was already serving an eight year sentence for arranging a prison hit on Gentz 
  • ‘Bondage master’ Bob Bashara has been found guilty of first-degree murder in a plot to kill his wife so he could devote himself to a life of domination with other women in an upper-class Detroit suburb.

    The salacious trial of the 57-year-old revealed his secret life in Grosse Pointe Park: a former Rotary Club president who used cocaine and hosted men and women at a sex dungeon underneath a bar called the Hard Luck Lounge.

    The father-of-two arranged the killing of his wife Jane Bashara who was strangled by a handyman in the couple’s garage in 2012. Her body was then discovered in her Mercedes-Benz in a Detroit alley.

(Link):  As trial wraps up, prosecutors allege Bob Bashara’s sexual deviancy led to wife’s murder

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Yes, just look at how these other godly, mature people sent hit men to kill their spouses…

Related posts:

(Link):  Married Christian Rock Singer in Legal Trouble for Hiring Hit Man To Kill His Wife

(Link):   Wife Kills Hit Man Husband Sent To Murder Her

News reports: Youth Pastor Chad Foster Solicits Kid for Sex – parents sue churches involved

Youth Pastor Solicits Kid for Sex – parents sue churches involved

I see no justification for “equally yoked” teachings in regards to marriage. There are atheist men out there with better morals than Christians who would make better marital partners.

(Link):  Family sues two churches, claims child was not protected from sex predator

  • A family is suing two popular Houston churches, accusing them of failing to protect their daughter from a sexual predator working as a youth minister.
  • Second Baptist Church and Community of Faith were named in the lawsuit filed in a Harris County court earlier this week.

    The plaintiffs in the lawsuit are the family of a teen girl who was allegedly victimized by Chad Foster, a former youth pastor for both Second Baptist and Community of Faith.

  • Foster admitted to making online sexual advances to the girl. He met at her school when she was 12 years old.  He pleaded guilty to online solicitation of a minor.  Foster also pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 16-year-old girl he also met at school in his role as youth pastor.  Foster is currently serving a five-year prison sentence.

    The lawsuit claims Second Baptist Church didn’t train Foster to work with minors and knew about Foster’s sinister agenda.

    “What we have here is the proverbial pedophile with the candy in his pocket,” the victim’s attorney, Cris Feldman, said.

    “Except this pedophile was sent into public schools with candy in his pocket provided by Second Baptist.  We believe the evidence will show that Second Baptist had full knowledge of what was going on. Or at least some idea of what was going on with Mr. Foster in that he lacked proper judgment in his actions around children.”

(Link):  Parents sue 2 churches after youth pastor solicits daughter

Excerpts:

  • By Anita Hassan | October 2, 2014
  • The parents of a teenage girl are suing two well-known Houston churches, claiming the organizations were negligent by employing a youth pastor who was convicted of sexually soliciting their daughter while working there.
  • According to the lawsuit, filed this week in Harris County, Second Baptist Church and Community of Faith Church were careless in their supervision and hiring of 35-year-old Chad Foster, a one-time youth pastor who pleaded guilty to trying to pressure the girl into having sex using the Internet in 2011.
  • Second Baptist and Community of Faith could not be reached for comment after hours Thursday.

Pastor caught ‘pants down while praying for a female member of his congregation’

Pastor caught ‘pants down while praying for a female member of his congregation’

So. I should believe in “be equally yoked” why?

(Link): Pastor caught ‘pants down while praying for a female member of his congregation’

  • When a man of God is caught pants down in this day and age, the most used excuse would be to ‘it was the devil’, except for this pastor.
  • A pastor from ACK Pumwani did not hesitate to come up with a new one of, “si uliniambia nikuje nikuonbe”.
  • The woman, who is a member of his congregation, received blows from her better half who had hatched the plan to catch them in a lodging in Thika Road. The wife who could not stop laughing and smiling after being caught, made the scene even more awkward when they were told to pose for a photo shoot.
  • The embarrassed pastor was lost for words and started claiming that he was there to pray and nothing else. Kenyans on Twitter did not take this sitting down as they came out to give their opinions on #pantsdown. Here are some of the comments KOT had to say.

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Related posts:

(Link):  Christian Ladies: Be Equally Yoked to Christian Men Who Like To Have Sex With Dogs! (Re: Jerald Hill news story)

(Link): Being Unequally Yoked – should Christians marry Non Christians or only marry Christians

(Link): Preacher Sends Nude Photos to Married Woman, Hits On Her, Tells Her to Divorce Spouse, Has Sex With Woman In Church Building

(Link): Christian Single Women: Another Example of Why You Should Abandon the “Be Equally Yoked” Teaching: 21-Y-O Christianity Student, Children’s Minister Charged With Murdering Fiancée He Was to Wed in August; Made It Look Like Suicide

(Link): American Teen Missionary Raped Several Orphan Children in Africa, One As Young As Four – Being Equally Yoked is a Joke

(Link): Wife of Preacher Shoots, Kills Him, Recounts Years of Physical and Sexual Abuse– So Much for the Equally Yoked Teaching and the Notion that Christian married sex is Mind Blowing

(Link): Preachers Arrested For, or Accused of, Promoting Prostitution, Rape, Spreading HIV, Child Molesting etc – And Christian Single Women Should Only Consider Marrying So Called Christian Men Why?

Single Woman Meets Stalker Guy at Church – letter to “Ask Amy” Advice Columnist

Single Woman Meets Stalker Guy at Church

Growing up, I heard from my Mom and Dad, who were both Christians, that church is the ideal place for a Christian, single gal to attend if she wants to meet a decent, single, Christian man – if her goal is to marry. Church was supposed to be the primary husband hunting ground for women. That may have been true in the 1950s, but no more.

For one thing, most churches lack single males past 30, and the few who do attend regularly, from what I’ve seen myself, and have read other women discuss online and in books of their church going experience, tend to be weird, terribly over-weight, have severe mental health issues, smell bad, etc. and so on.

The kind of men who do show up to church are often not date-able men.

The solution to how to attract more men to church has nothing to do with women, with what women do or do not do for men, single or married.

Women, single or married, do not owe adult, single, celibate or non-celibate men ego-stroking or emotional support for being celibate singles (see this post for more on that, and I may write another post on this topic in the future).

I do think the church as a whole – that is, church culture – needs to be affirming of lifelong or adult celibacy and singlehood overall, including everyone from the male pastor to the male deacons, elders, and women who teach Sunday School, because God knows they have made marriage, “the family,” and natalism into idols that they never shut up about, but to “single” the single women out for this purpose is sexist and odd.

Yes, really and truly, there are some self-identified adult, Christian, celibate single men who believe that male church attendance would sky rocket if only the mean, horrible, heartless, single adult women would pile on the affirmations to the single, celibate men and sing the praises of adult celibate men.

Oh please. You’re not five years old. Motivate yourself. Single, celibate adult women are not to blame for churches who ignore single, celibate men. Churches ignore both genders, not only the single men. They ignore single women too.

If you’re an adult over 25, stop demanding, like a petulant, whiny, demanding teenager, that adult, unmarried women stroke your ego for being celibate or single.

A lot of adult, single women are finding most churches irrelevant to their needs, so more and more adult single women are dropping out of church. I don’t see celibate, single men or churches in general making single, celibate women feel more welcome.

On the contrary, churches continue to marginalize single, celibate women by continually harping on how God’s only role for women is to marry and have babies.

Anyway. This single, 25 year old woman mentioned in the letter below that she met a single guy at church who is around 35 (I may have gotten his age wrong, I thought I saw the mom say he is ten years older than the daughter), and he turned out to be a stalker – and I have a few more comments to make below these letters:

  • DEAR AMY: My 25-year-old daughter briefly dated a man she met in church last December.
  • After one month, she ended the friendship (he was too emotionally needy).
  • He continues to pursue her by constant texting and e-mailing. She says he alternates between “saying mean things” and then apologizing and begging her to give him another chance.
  • She does not respond and blocked his phone, but he continues to text from different numbers. She does not reply to his e-mails. She moved to a different side of town, and so far he has not shown up at her work.
  • We’re very worried about this. What steps can she take to be safe and get this man to stop contacting her? Should her father confront him? So far we have not gotten involved.
  • — Very Worried
  • DEAR WORRIED: I shared your question with Michele Archer, an expert on stalking with the victim’s advocacy group Safe Horizon, (Link): safehorizon.org. Archer has some suggestions for your daughter: “Keep a stalking log of all incidents, including the date, time, location and a brief description of the incident. Save and print out the e-mails. Save all text messages and document them in the log.
  • “I would suggest not changing her e-mail address, but she may want to open another account and give that to people she trusts. Changing her e-mail address may escalate his behavior, and the e-mails he is sending become evidence of stalking, which she can use if she goes to the police.
  • “If she has concerns about him showing up at her work, she should let her place of employment know. If she has a photo of him (look on the Internet) she can make a color copy and give it to her workplace.
  • “If she uses any social networking sites, make them private and be mindful of what she posts.
  • “If this continues, she may want to contact police. The stalking log is useful for this, and she should also show them the text messages. She can also reach out to a domestic violence organization in her community for support or help advocating with the police (if needed) or the district attorney’s office.”
  • Archer adds, “I can’t comment on whether the father should confront him because I do not have enough information about the individual pursuing her. In general, this is not recommended.”
  • In addition to the above actions, I’d like to encourage your daughter not to let this isolate her. The more support she has from friends, colleagues, family members and local law enforcement, the more secure she will feel — and the more secure she will be.

Whether this guy the 25 year old woman met is a “true” Christian or not is beside the point. Only God can see into someone’s heart.

If a man is play acting and putting on all outward appearances of being an upstanding Christian – he’s in church weekly, reads his Bible regularly, doesn’t use vulgar language, etc, and so forth – a woman may very well assume that the guy is a “true” Christian.

If something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, you’re going to feel safe assuming it’s a duck – only to find out later it’s a turkey in a duck costume.

This gets back to a point I’ve mentioned time and again on this blog: single, Christian ladies need to give up the “be equally yoked” evangelical understanding of marriage, where they feel confined to only marrying another Christian.

Other than the sheer fact that there are not enough Christian men for Christian women, a lot of the men who are Christians are pigs and dogs.

I’ve chronicled on this blog links to numerous stories about preachers and other Christians who have been arrested for wife beating, murdering their wife, owning or producing pedophile pornography, etc. (you can view examples in this thread and also do a search on this blog for the term “equally yoked”).

A man can believe in Jesus, confess Jesus is Lord, believe in the Bible, give money to charity, attend church weekly, and yet be a “slime ball” or an abuser.

Confession or actual possession of Christian faith is not a guarantee that the guy is going to treat you any better than the atheist down the street.

Just because you meet the guy in a church, and you see he’s there weekly, doesn’t mean he’s not a pervert or a nutso stalker guy. Just see the example above – the young lady met the guy at church, and he is at times hostile towards her in texts or at other times, too clingy. He’s stalking her. You can meet nuts and abusers in churches, too.

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Related:

(Link):   Pedophiles Seeking Christian Wives in Churches – Another Reason to be Leery of the “Equally Yoked” Idea and Reconsider Church as a Place to Meet Singles

(Link): Older Pervy Dudes Hitting on Younger Women – and they  meet them at church

(Link): Male Entitlement and Adult Virginity: Who has it worse, Male Vs. Female?

(Link): Christian Husband Raped, Beat His Wife, Made Her Sign “Slave Contract” – Why Christian Single Women Should Not Date or Marry Christian Men

Article: 30 And Single? It’s Your Own Fault

Please click the “more” link farther below to read the entire post.

I disagree with some of the positions of the “marriage mandate” crowd, including those of Debbie Maken, who wrote a book about the issue.

I intend on posting more content about the ‘marriage mandate’ perspective in the future but thought I’d start with excerpts from a good review of Maken’s book and view.

(Link): 30 and Single? It’s Your Own Fault [ by Camerin Courtney]

There are more unmarried people in our congregations than ever, and some say that’s just sinful.

From Ms. Courtney’s article:

By that October, they were engaged.

Following the path afforded by her ethnicity (she’s Indian), she [Debbie Maken] signed up with an Indian Christian Web agency to find a suitable suitor and, aided by her parents’ watchful care, started e-mailing a man in July 2001.

Now happily married and the mother of two young girls, Maken drew a map—in the form of her book, Getting Serious About Getting Married—to the Land of Marital Bliss. She hopes to prevent her daughters and countless single women across the country from having to experience any more “unnecessary protracted singleness.”

….In later chapters, she addresses the well-meaning advice handed to singles in Christian circles—such as “just wait on the Lord to bring a mate to you” or “Jesus is all you need”—and deftly explains some of the erroneous thinking and theology surrounding each.

At her best, in passages such as these, Maken gives platitude-battered single women needed permission to admit, “I’d like to get married, and that’s okay.”

Unfortunately, these bits of trend-spotting and balanced synthesis are drowning in a sea of shame and blame.

Maken seems to think a vast majority of singles view their solo status as a special gift from God (a stance I’ve seen in only a fraction of the thousands of e-mails I’ve received as a columnist for ChristianSinglesToday.com, a CT sister publication), a notion the very subtitle of the book urges them to reconsider.

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