Nick Jonas Losing Christian Image as ‘Racy’ Music Video Set to Release

Nick Jonas Losing Christian Image as ‘Racy’ Music Video Set to Release

Didn’t we just go through this about six months ago with Hannah Montana? (See link at bottom of this post under “Related Posts” for more on that.)

In the future, if we get anymore teen or 20 something pop singers, I hope music journalists ask them,

    “Look, you are only 14 years old now, you have a wholesome image, and you claim to be a virgin and sexually pure now…
    Is this just an act? Five or six years from now, can we expect you, like 99% of teen singers before you, to say all the “sexually pure” stuff was a put-on, that you found it restrictive and you were really just dying to pose half nude for magazines and grab your crotch in music videos?”

Because this crap seems pretty par the course now.

Why, why, does our culture – or kids in the culture – equate being sexy, or having sex, with full-fledged adulthood? (And… See link at bottom of this post under “Related Posts” for more on that.)

More accurate barometers of adulthood:

    -Having a tedious 9 to 5 office job with an incompetent boss and annoying co-workers and not hanging yourself or losing your sanity from it

    -(if you have your own home) paying a mortgage

    -realizing some of your dreams and goals, held since childhood, may never come to pass -and learning how to cope with that

    -learning to accept yourself, flaws and all, and not to care so much what other people think about you

If you’re over 40, you can probably come up with a few more things to add to that list.

I am going to guess (and I may be wrong, I’m just guessing based on this news story below), that the upcoming Jonas music video will include scantily clad females with really big, silicon-enhanced boobs (ie, standard video vixens), dancing around this Jonas guy, and him looking all “come hither” into the camera and possibly grinding on the next- to- nude models?

Being “skanky sleazy = adult” to this Jonas guy and to a lot of these Miley Cyrus types, sadly (see the article below for more on that).

Conversely, these guys think
being civilized, having standards, being respectable = “in chains, repressed,” etc.

I would like to inform folks who think like Jonas does that tarting yourself up and being overly sexual in music videos is not going to make you happy or bring you instant maturity.

Movie actress Marilyn Monroe, who died in 1962 and is still widely regarded as the world’s utmost sex symbol, grew to detest being known only, or primarily, as a sex kitten.

Monroe wanted to be taken seriously; it’s a theme that came up every so often in her interviews. She took acting classes at the prestigious Actor’s Studio at one point, in a bid to be taken seriously by everyone.

After years of making films in Hollywood, Monroe moved to New York and started her own production company to get out of the dumb and sexy roles Hollywood studio executives kept forcing her into. Her production company allowed her to take on slightly deeper, or more varied, movie roles.

Another funny observation here of how being skanky, sleazy, and sexy – or having a sexy public persona – won’t bring you the gravitas and “grown up” image you think it will:

If you paid attention to pop culture back in the 1980s (or, if you weren’t even born yet, pay attention and learn something), you may recall that George Michael, who was once the lead singer of the Brit pop duo “Wham!” and who later became a solo act – was so tired of being thought a dirty sexy sex symbol poster boy, he released the song “FREEDOM,” which included the lyrics expressing his desire to be taken seriously and his despair of being thought nothing but a pretty, sexy face:

    [FREEDOM LYRICS – GEORGE MICHAEL]

    Heaven knows I was just a young boy
    Didn’t know what I wanted to be
    I was every little hungry schoolgirls pride and joy
    And I guess it was enough for me
    To win the race? a prettier face
    Brand new clothes and a big fat place
    On your rock and roll TV
    But today the way I play the game is not the same
    No way
    Think I’m gonna get me some happy

    I think there’s something you should know
    I think it’s time I told you so
    There’s something deep inside of me
    There’s someone else I’ve got to be
    Take back your picture in a frame
    Take back your singing in the rain
    I just hope you understand
    Sometimes the clothes do not make the man

    … Well it looks like the road to heaven
    But it feels like the road to hell
    When I knew which side my bread was buttered
    I took the knife as well
    Posing for another picture
    Everybody’s got to sell
    But when you shake your ass
    They notice fast
    And some mistakes were build to last

Yeah, see, that whole pop song was an expression of how empty it was to be a public sex symbol.

And in the 1980s, George Michael was pretty popular, especially with the young teen ladies (this was years and years before his homosexuality became public).

Yet, these teeny bopper, or young 20 somethings of today, think if they show some skin, sleep around, that this will make them feel or look like an adult. It won’t. They should learn from people such as Marilyn Monroe and George Michael who went down that road and found out it’s unsatisfying.

By the way, I’m tired of the Virgin Shaming and Celibacy Shaming inherent in such moves by these entertainers.

These pop singers, who are now about 25, are basically saying they resented once having stood for sexual purity. After marketing themselves as sexually wholesome stage acts when they are 13 or 16 years old, they turn around when they are 23 or 24, when they are about to drop a new album or video, and say how much they actually despised the virginity shtick in their younger days – well thanks so much, pal!

(Link): Nick Jonas Losing Christian Image as ‘Racy’ Music Video Set to Release

    Nick Jonas, the youngest sibling of former pop band The Jonas Brothers, is set to release a new solo music video and sources say it might destroy his Christian image.

    The Jonas Brothers dissolved in Oct. 2013 as the brothers decided to go their separate ways in the professional world. Now the youngest brother is preparing to release a single of his own called “Chains.”

    According to Breathecast.com, the new music video is going to express his dissatisfaction with the years spent as the wholesome “character” of Nick Jonas.

    A source told the New York Post that Jonas “has emancipated himself from the squeaky-clean shackles of former purity ring-wearing boy band The Jonas Brothers.”

    “Nick has spent years experiencing a burden that’s hard to explain. He feels free now for the first time in his life. He’s making music he believes in. He’s done saying sorry for everything and trying to be perfect. He’s just going to be himself. If people like him, great. If not, he’s done giving a [expletive].”

    The Jonas brothers were previously known for their Christian upbringing; the group wore purity rings and spoke openly about their decisions to wait until marriage to have sex, but discarded the rings later on.

    An official release date for the music video has yet to be set.

I haven’t watched the video preview yet, which seems to be mentioned here:
(Link): Exclusive: We’ve Got Your First Look At Nick Jonas’ ‘Chains’ Music Video

(Link): Nick Jonas Disses The Jonas Brothers In New Single ‘Chains’

Freedom, by George Michael:

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Related posts:

(Link): On Miley Cyrus Being Sexual at 2013 VMAs – Hypocrisy of Secular Feminists

(Link): A Grown-Up, Not Sexed-Up, View of Womanhood (article) – how Christian teachings on gender and singlehood contribute to raunch culture and fornication etc

(Link): Salvation By Marriage Alone – The Over Emphasis Upon Marriage by Conservative Christians Evangelicals Southern Baptists

(Link): No Christians and Churches Do Not Idolize Virginity and Sexual Purity – Christians Attack and Criticize Virginity Sexual Purity Celibacy / Virginity Sexual Purity Not An Idol

Singer Joe Jonas Talks about Frustrations with Purity Rings

Singer Joe Jonas Talks about Frustrations with Purity Rings

(Link): Joe Jonas Talks About Relationship With God, Frustration With Purity Rings in Raw, Revealing Interview

    BY MORGAN LEE , CHRISTIAN POST REPORTER
    December 2, 2013|12:59 pm

    Despite growing up in a Pentecostal church that his father pastored, Joe Jonas no longer sees himself as religious, crediting part of his disillusionment to a scandal that rocked the congregation.

    “We eventually left our church, Assembly of God, when I was 14. A scandal had erupted involving stolen money, and it caused a big rift in the church. After that the concept of church really upset me for a long time,” Jonas shared in a recent interview with Vulture. “I mean, I believe in God, and that’s a personal relationship that I have, but I’m not religious in any way.”

    Jonas, who was formerly part of pop rock band The Jonas Brothers, also said that at an early age he felt the pressure of pleasing and conforming to others’ standards.

    “To some extent, I was used to growing up in public. I was a pastor’s kid, so eyes were always on me, even then. I sat in the first pew of the church, and I had to wear a suit every Sunday, because my parents wanted me to be this role model that I didn’t always want to be,” Jonas said.

    …In an exceptionally raw and frank interview, Jonas also mentioned that although he had made a good-faith, preteen, commitment with Christian abstinence organization True Love Waits to keep his virginity until marriage and donned a “purity ring” as an 11-year-old, he was overwhelmed when this became the focus of media attention when the band started to blow up.

    “The topic that dominated news coverage of us for a long time was the whole promise-ring thing. We couldn’t escape it,” said Jonas.

    “I remember this interview with this guy whose entire agenda was to focus on the rings. He kept pushing the subject, and when we insisted that we didn’t want to talk about it, he told us, ‘I can write whatever I want,’ which terrified us,” he added. “That’s the thing: We didn’t know any better, and we just wanted to make people happy. Now I know that I don’t have to answer any questions I don’t want to. Like, why do you even care about my 15-year-old brother’s sex life?”

    Jonas was increasingly frustrated when he felt that something that he did not want to be an issue, became something that fans were emulating.

    “People were coming up to us, saying, “Thank you so much, I’m waiting because you guys are, too!” And we just thought, No! That’s not what we’re about,” said Jonas, who noted that he lost his virginity when he was 20.

Mothers Allow Rock Singer to Rape their Infants – Parenthood Does Not Make People More Godly Mature or Loving

Mothers Allow Brit Rock Singer to Rape their Infants – Parenthood Does Not Make People More Godly Mature or Loving

I am not clear at this point if the rock star in question, Ian Watkins of the band LostProphets, is a father or is married himself.

(edit. Someone on another site said he is in fact a father. He has children of his own, they said. I do not know if this is accurate.)

If he is, this is just another example of a married person/ parent engaging in deviant, disgusting behavior.

The Daily Mail reports that he at least has a ‘former girlfriend.’ One site (link) says,

    Ian Watkins, also known mirrorboy, is not married. He is the lead vocalist and lyricist of the alternative rock band called Lostprophets from Wales. Watkins had affairs with Fearne Cotton in 2004-2005, and pop world host Alexa Chung.

The news reports are saying that two women each allowed this singer to rape their infants, or were going to allow him to, before being caught by police. The reports say they fondled and sexually assaulted their children in Skype chats with the singer, at his request.

It takes a special kind of scum ball to want to rape an infant and to sexually abuse animals (yes, this sicko was also caught sexually abusing animals, said two or three other reports I saw).

(Link): Ian Watkins, Lostprophets Singer, Pleads Guilty To Attempted Rape Of Baby, Muliple Child Sex Offenses

    The lead singer of the rock band Lostprophets has pleaded guilty to multiple child sex offenses, including the attempted rape of a baby.

    Ian Watkins pleaded guilty to the “depraved” sex charges in Cardiff Crown Court in Wales on Tuesday, Nov. 26, the BBC reported. He admitted to the attempted rape and sexual assault of a child under 13 years old, “three counts of sexual assault involving children and six involving taking, making or possessing indecent images of children and one of possessing an extreme pornographic image involving a sex act on an animal.”

    Alongside Watkins, two female co-defendants pleaded guilty to various sex offenses against their own children, the South Wales Evening Post reported. He admitted to attempting to rape the 11-month-old baby boy of one of the co-defendants and conspiring to rape the baby girl of the other.

(Link): Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins pleads guilty to child sex offenses

(Link): Ian Watkins trial: Lostprophets singer pleads GUILTY to 11 sex charges including attempting to rape baby

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Boy Bands, Rock Singers, and Other High School Crushes – Yes, Women Are Visually Stimulated and Visually Oriented

Boy Bands and Rock Singers – Yes, Women Are Visually Stimulated and Visually Oriented (from the time they are teens, too)

Conservative Christians and Non Christians continue to portray all men as “visually oriented” and as sex obsessed weirdos, so if you want a man, single ladies, they say, you better be stick thin, have a perfect body, and grow your hair long.

Meanwhile, women are depicted in secular culture and from pulpits and in dating books by preachers as only being “emotional” and finding interest in knitting and petting kittens (and I do mean literal kittens there; that phrase is not a euphemism) – never are women said to care about what a man looks like, and women, at least the married ones, are portrayed as sexless, lifeless ragdolls who don’t want sex.

The problem with this is that none of it is true for all members of both genders, nor am I certain it’s true of even the majority of them.

The fact is (and I have said this before and will say it again in future posts – yes, I am planing a part two to this post), women – and this includes CHRISTIAN ones as well- like sexy looking, buff men.

Christian women are not turned on by stick-thin, toothless, smelly, balding, or obese males. And we wouldn’t settle for an ugly fatso just because he “loves Jesus” or attends church every week.

But this is the erroneous picture Christian literature and preachers paint of Christian women – that Christian women only care about how “spiritual” a Christian guy is.

So the males never hear sermons filled with bon mots such as, “Hey, dumpy, saggy lard ass: get to a gym and lose your gut, women don’t find that attractive. Get some Rogaine while you’re at it. And when is the last time you used mouth wash or saw a dentist??”

No, no, those sorts of comments are tossed at women, even in sermons and in “Christian” books and blogs about dating and relationships, but of course tilted to feminine appearance, such as, “Hey you ugly fatso, men care about looks, so go join ‘JUST LADIES,’ get on a treadmill, and grow your hair long! You look like a butch lesbian with short hair. No man wants that.”

Women do of course care about what men look like. Yes, we do, even the Bible thumping variety.

When I was growing up, a lot of girls had crushes on bands such as British pop band Duran Duran.

Duran Duran British pop band
Duran Duran British pop band

While I enjoyed some of their music, I was never a Duranie per se. But let me tell you, debates used to rage, absolutely rage, among teen girls in the 1980s as to which D2 band member was the cutest. Most chose Simon Lebon, lead singer. (Obviously, John Taylor was the cutest back then, so that settles that – though Simon has, IMO, aged better than John, going by recent photos of the band.)

I remember two very rabid D2 fans who rode my school bus back in the day, who used to argue DAILY, and quite passionately, about who was cuter, Simon or John. ~And people think females only care about a man’s “personality” or other “inner qualities.” Riiiiight. Keep living in that land of delusion, people who are uncomfortable with females being sexual.

Before that, in the 1970s, it was The Bay City Rollers. Girls went nuts for the Bay City Rollers.

In the 1990s, girls went crazy for New Kids on the Block and Back Street Boys.

New Kids on the Block
New Kids on the Block – boy band

Girls have been lining their lockers with photos of males they find PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE in junior high and high school since the dawn of rock. (There are a sub-set of girls who will find a famous guy’s personality appealing, in addition to his looks, and will tape his photo up on that basis as well.)

There was Elvis and The Beatles in the 1950s and 1960s. Today, there is teen singer Justin Bieber.

I had a friend from junior high who seriously crushed on Patrick Swayze, the movie actor, all through high school. She used to tape his photos up all over her bedroom because she thought he was sexy fine with a nice body.

Movie actor Kevin Costner
Movie actor Kevin Costner

When I was in my late teens, I had a 50 something, married female co-worker on one job who loved movie actor Kevin Costner, who kept photos of him taped inside her employee locker.

Clearly, women like looking at men they consider handsome. This is fact. This is reality. I’ve been surrounded by this phenomenon my whole life but rarely do I see it acknowledged in Christian media -or secular- that women are visual, just as much as men are.

Instead, I keep seeing this idiotic notion bandied about in magazine articles, dating advice blogs, and in sermons, that Christian women (or any woman) only care about a man’s income or personality and don’t care an iota about what his face or body looks like.

I’m thinking maybe people are just comfortable with sexist stereotypes, and men feel it gives them an excuse to be fat and never work out at the gym. I’m not sure what other explanations can be in order.

Burt Reynolds centerfold
Burt Reynolds centerfold

The Burt Reynolds Cosmo centerfold. I almost forgot. Some women found him sexy, and they went a little crazy when that centerfold was published. I believe that was in the 1970s.

From (Link): an article (“Helen Gurley Brown, objectifier of men”) about the Burt centerfold:

  • She [Gurley Brown] did manage to get Burt Reynolds’ enthusiastic participation in her first-ever nude male centerfold. “There’s a big show in this country called ‘The Tonight Show,’” she explained to me. “He was a guest host, and I asked him off the air.”
  • The photo that ran was Reynolds’ personal pick. ”He’s got a good body, he’s got terrific legs, he’s handsome, he’s smiling up a storm and you can’t really see any” — here, she paused — “men’s genitalia … It’s about as sexy and revealing as a photo can be, but it doesn’t reveal anything that it shouldn’t.”
  • The photo, which ran with text proclaiming that male editors had previously “neglected the visual appetites of us equally appreciative girls,” was a sensation. Women mobbed Reynolds’ house.

    The founder of Playgirl even cited it as an inspiration for the entire creation of the magazine: ”When I saw Burt Reynolds naked in Cosmo and saw what a winner that was, it came to me, that’s what women want. If a woman says to me she wants to see a man’s smile, his eyes, I say, ‘Don’t lie to me — you want to see a man’s dong,’ that is if you’re normal.”

  • In “Bad Girls Go Everywhere,” Gurley Brown’s biographer, Jennifer Scanlon represents Gurley Brown as a feminist whose attitudes towards sex prefigured “sex positive” feminism.
  • That included acknowledging female desire, particularly a desire for men’s bodies. Gurley’s stubborn refusal to “demonize” men, or have any unpleasantness at all in her magazine, kept her at loggerheads with many second wavers; she saw it as simply practical. “I acknowledge that men keep women back,” Gurley Brown wrote, “but since sex is terrific and it comes from men, you can’t rule men out of this world and say they’re all terrible and rotten, because you’re going to need them for your own purposes.”

Women are “visually stimulated,” they are “visually oriented” and you damn skippy most women care about a man’s physical appearance. If they did not, they would not be taping shirtless photos of Patrick Swayze in his prime back in their school lockers way back when.
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Part 2:

(Link): Ryan Gosling and Shirtless, Buff Cowboy Photos on Social Media – Yes, Women Are Visually Stimulated and Visually Oriented (Part 2)
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