Mark Driscoll Paid for Honeymoon with Church Funds

Mark Driscoll Paid for Honeymoon with Church Funds

Dear Al Mohler and other marriage-obsessed weenies who keep insulting the state of singleness to promote marriage:

Here’s another example of how being a married person did not make that person more ethical, mature, giving, or godly than someone who is single.

Does doofus Mark Driscoll ever pay off rent or groceries or whatever for single adults, one wonders?

Not that it would be okay to mis-use church funds on that, either.

(Link): Mark Driscoll Paid for Honeymoon with Church Funds; Uses Gift Cards to Pay Interns, Former Members Say

by Julie Roys

….When Pastor Mark Driscoll told Joey Manuele and his fiancée at a staff Christmas party that he’d pay for their honeymoon, Joey Manuele was stunned.

…A couple weeks later, the Manueles received a check for the full amount. But to their surprise, the check wasn’t from Driscoll, but from The Trinity Church.

“I was like, ‘Wait! He never said it was coming from the church!’” Joey Manuele said. “(Driscoll) said ‘me, me,’ like ‘I’m going to give it to you. I want to do this for you.’ And then we get a check from the church . . . So that was a shock.”

…Joey Manuele added that the honeymoon stay wasn’t the only unsolicited gift Driscoll gave him and his wife.

…Manuele, whose entire family was recently kicked out of the church, said he now suspects the gifts were intended to buy his loyalty.
— end article —

In light of news stories like this, and other, similar ones I’ve posted before about married people, including self professing Christians, who behave as un-ethical weasels to out right scum buckets,
I never, ever want Al Mohler or Bradford or other marriage and nuclear family promoters pushing marriage or parenthood by arguing that parenthood and marriage makes people more mature, godly, responsible, ethical, etc, when clearly, that is NOT the case.


Related Posts:

(Link): Placing One’s Marriage Ahead of The Church – Preacher (i.e., Mark Driscoll) Used Prioritizing and Rebuilding His Marriage as Rationale for Bullying His Church Members

(Link): More Anti-Singleness Bias From Southern Baptist Al Mohler – Despite the Bible Says It Is Better Not To Marry

(Link): The Dear Driscoll Site – Re: Mark Driscoll – Christians: Stop Supporting Driscoll, any church Driscoll runs, and Stop Supporting Guys Like Him!

(Link): Preacher Mark Driscoll Basically Says No, Single Christian Males Cannot or Should Not Serve as Preachers / in Leadership Positions – Attempts to Justify Unbiblical, Anti Singleness Christian Bias

(Link): Adult Singleness and Virginity Ridiculed by Preacher Mark Driscoll from 2000 – and anti Homosexual and Sexist Rhetoric ( Re Driscoll Rant known as Pussified Nation )

(Link): Pervy Preacher from Seattle who teaches men “to objectify women, by his over emphasis of sexualization of women and subservience” (Re Driscoll)

Tithe Money Funded Hillsong Pastors’ Luxury Lifestyles: Former Members, by H. Frishberg 

Tithe Money Funded Hillsong Pastors’ Luxury Lifestyles: Former Members by H. Frishberg

Long article. Below are just a few excerpts. What a dreadful “church.”

(Link): Tithe Money Funded Hillsong Pastors’ Luxury Lifestyles: Former Members 

Jan. 26, 2021
by H. Frishberg

The pastors at scandalized Hillsong Church were anything but humble servants.

As the Australia-based institution continues to come under fire for allegations of “slave labor” and homophobia, ex-congregants and staff are now claiming that pastors used tithe money to help fuel their decadent lifestyles.

At Hillsong NYC, many pastors frequently splurged on fancy restaurant meals, designer clothes and weekly manicures while living in the same Kent Avenue Williamsburg high-rise and zipping around the neighborhood on ATVs, disgusted former members told The Post.

Pastors and staff apparently freely used debit-like “PEX” — or pre-paid expense — cards for whatever their hearts desired, several former members and staff told The Post. The source of the funds was money donated or “tithed” by members, said former Hillsong LA service pastor Nicole Herman, who personally loaded the funds onto the PEX cards.

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Man Accused of Dismembering, ‘Boiling’ Parents Who Cut Him Off Financially

Man Accused of Dismembering, ‘Boiling’ Parents Who Cut Him Off Financially

The phrase “family values” many not be necessarily un-biblical or anti-biblical, but it’s not taught in the Bible.

So many Christian persons or conservative organizations keep promoting this idea that Nuclear Families are necessary for a society to thrive. I’m not opposed to the Nuclear Family, I don’t want to abolish the Nuclear Family, but I don’t agree with the idea that the Nuclear Family is necessary for a culture, or that it (and marriage and parenthood) are necessary to make a person good or mature.

I see news headlines like the one below, and I realize that belonging to a Nuclear Family doesn’t make a person good, ethical, or wonderful.

A person can be a part of a Nuclear Family and still be a cold-blooded killer. So obviously, something else is going on here – the Jesus of the Bible said it has to do with individual sin – not marital or family status.

The Jesus of the Bible did not teach that the Nuclear Family will save a person or a culture. But Christians sure do keep behaving as though it will.

Did being a member of a Nuclear Family make this man in this news story, Joel Guy Jr, more loving, ethical, responsible or godly? Nope, it sure did not.

If you kill your mom over financial grievances and boil her head in a pot, I think it’s fair to say you’re an evil piece of garbage and that being in a “nuclear family” did nothing to instill character in you.

(Link): ‘Flush chunks down toilet not garbage disposal and blast heat to melt off fingerprints’: The chillingly detailed notebook of US son accused of dismembering his parents and boiling his mother’s head in a pot

(Link): Man Accused of Dismembering, ‘Boiling’ Parents Who Cut Him Off Financially

(Alternate news source: (Link): KNEWZ)

by WND News Services
Sept 28, 2020

‘The most horrific thing I’ve ever encountered in police work – in my life’

(KNEWZ) — A trial has begun for Joel Guy Jr. — a man accused of murdering and dismembering his parents for cutting him off financially, then trying to chemically dissolve their bodies to cover up the crime.

According to the Knoxville News Sentinel, a jury has been seated for the trial of Joel Guy Jr., who stands accused of murdering his mother Lisa Guy, 55, and his father Joel Guy Sr., 61.

Authorities claim that Guy Jr’s parents told him during the 2016 Thanksgiving holiday that they would be cutting him off financially. The son denies the charges and has pleaded not guilty.

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Boy, Age 2, Dies After Father Stole $150,000 Raised for Treatment and Blew It On Hookers, Liquor, Drugs and Hotels

Boy, Age 2, Dies After Father Stole $150,000 Raised for Treatment and Blew It On Hookers, Liquor, Drugs and Hotels

Christians (such as but not limited to Al Mohler) and my fellow conservatives often like to claim that “family values” and parenthood and marriage are all necessary to make society better, and to make people into loving, mature, godly, and/or ethical adults. But the Nuclear Family, parenthood, and marriage does none of those things. Here’s yet another example.

(Link): Boy, Age 2, Dies After Father Stole $150,000 Raised for Treatment and Blew It On Hookers, Liquor, Drugs and Hotels

Excerpts:

October 23, 2019

A toddler who suffered from a neuromuscular disorder died last week in Brazil after his father allegedly stole the cash raised for his treatment and spent it on wild parties.

Two-year-old João Miguel Alves passed away October 17 following a lengthy battle with Spinal Muscular Atrophy [AME].

His father, Mateus Henrique Leroy Alves, 37, was arrested July 22, a week after his wife reported him to the police.

He was found at a luxury hotel where he had been staying at for almost two months having spent $150,000 on designer clothes, watches, drugs, hookers and booze, local media reports.

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Youth Pastor Charged With Prostituting Teenage Boys, Drugging Them With Crystal Meth

Youth Pastor Charged With Prostituting Teenage Boys, Drugging Them With Crystal Meth

With so many Christian men being the perverts they are, if you are a single, Christian woman, you stand a better chance, possibly, of meeting a decent Non-Christian guy.

I still cannot believe Christians continue to insist that single Christian women should only marry Christian men, when there aren’t as many Christian males as there are females, and the Christian males are rapists or child molesters, like this guy:

(Link): Youth Pastor Charged With Prostituting Teenage Boys, Drugging Them With Crystal Meth

by S. Smith
Oct 20, 2016

A Florida youth pastor has been arrested and charged with forcing four teenage boys into prostitution by telling them that they could make money modeling and threatening them if they didn’t agree to have sex with male clients he met on the internet.

According to a Miami police report, Ron Cooper, who goes by the nickname “Romeo,” sex trafficked four boys aged 16 to 18, who were forced to have sex for money at three different Miami-Dade County hotels and at an adult bookstore in Miami.

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Christian Charity Head Admits Using Donations for Sex Habit

Christian Charity Head Admits Using Donations for Sex Habit

This article says that this guy is married (or was at one point; I have no idea if he’s still married to his wife or not).

Christians often think that married people are more sexually pure and moral than adult singles – they will often refuse to allow adult singles to serve in leadership positions in churches, one reason being, they assume that the single will “hit on” or start affairs with other people.

But if you will notice, the majority of news stories about Christians who are involved in affairs or looking at child porn and what have you, are MARRIED persons, NOT singles.

Which is not to say there are not self-professing Christian singles who aren’t sexually sinning, because there sure as heck are, but I’m so tired of this Christian stereotype that married people are as pure as the freshly driven snow, while we singles are supposedly a bunch of over-sexed horn dogs.

I myself am over the age of 40, and I am celibate. I am more sexually up-right than a lot of Christian married people. So Christians who harbor these stereotypes about singles being Jezebel harlots and married people being sexually pure can kiss my butt.

By the way, does the “be equally yoked” rule Christians apply to marriage REALLY MATTER when the “Christian” husband ends up cheating on his wife by using pornography or prostitutes or he has a mistress?

Does this example REALLY up-hold the Christian teaching that God expects a person to be mature or godly before he will permit him or her to have a spouse? No, it does not.

If God expected people to be totally moral, ethical, mature, and godly before allowing them to have a spouse, the idiot in this news story would still be single – but he’s not. He has a wife (or did. I am not clear if the wife is still with him or not).

(Link): Director of Cedar Rapids nonprofit skimmed donations to support ‘sex addiction’

(Link): Christian charity head admits using donations for sex habit 

(Link): Christian Charity Head Admits Using Donations for Sex Habit

  • by R. Roley
  • May 2016
  • The president of a Christian charity in Iowa admitted that he embezzled nearly a half-million dollars in donations and used the money to pay for a sex addiction, federal prosecutors said Tuesday.
  • Jon S. Petersen, of Cedar Rapids, pleaded guilty Monday to one count of filing a false tax return. He was released from custody pending a sentencing hearing, which hasn’t been scheduled.
  • Petersen, 55, is the longtime president of World Ambassadors, Ltd., a nonprofit he founded with his wife in 1993 to provide a Christian outreach to international students on college campuses.

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Hypocritical Preacher Ed Young Jr Throws Tantrum About 50 Shades Of Grey Book And Tries To Make Buck Off It At Same Time

Hypocrite Rev Ed Young Jr Throws Tantrum About 50 Shades Of Grey Book

(Link):  Megachurch Pastor Ed Young to Baptize Copies of ‘Fifty Shades of Grey;’ Calls Book a ‘Perverted Attempt to Trap Readers’

I cannot figure out why so many Christians get themselves in a bother over whatever the current hot topic is in culture.

I remember when Christians had a fit about 10 or 15 years ago when the Harry Potter books exploded in popularity. A few years after that, I saw preachers frequently warn parents about how Potter books were demonic and evil.

Anyway, this is the same Ed Young Jr. who had a sermon series several years ago called “Sexperiment,” where he put a bed on the roof of his church, and he and his wife climbed in that bed to deliver a sermon.

Young Jr. also did something several months after that, where he challenged his married congregation to have sex every single day for 30 days in a row, or something. Never no mind that half of his congregation consists of single adults, which would be like Rev. Assh_e doing a sermon on the deliciousness of chocolate cake for a congregation half made up of diabetics.

Where does someone who promotes and pushes sex from the pulpit and to make a profit and in front of a room of 50% singles get off criticizing Hollywood over a sex movie? He’s a hypocrite.

Also, given America’s short attention span, two months from now, nobody will be talking about “50 Shades of Grey,” so there’s no point in getting worked up over it anyway.

Megachurch Pastor Ed Young to Baptize Copies of ‘Fifty Shades of Grey;’ Calls Book a ‘Perverted Attempt to Trap Readers’

Excerpts:

  • BY LEONARDO BLAIR , CP REPORTER
  • February 5, 2015|4:40 pm
  • Just over a week before the steamy “Fifty Shades of Grey” movie opens on Valentine’s weekend, controversial founding pastor of the popular Fellowship Church in Dallas, Texas, Ed Young, says he will baptize copies of the book on which the movie is based, calling it a “perverted attempt to trap readers.”

    “There is a cultural epidemic out there that is wrapped up in complete fantasy. The book, Fifty Shades of Grey, is a perverted attempt to trap readers and leads them to a misunderstanding of what intimacy and connection are all about,” said Young in a press statement Wednesday.

  • “It is a pathetic distortion of a more powerful reality about relationships. God is not anti-sex, and he isn’t grey when it comes to relationships. I want to wake people up to the reality that God’s purpose and plan for their lives is so much greater!” he added.

    Young, who’s a New York Times best-selling author who wrote the book Sexperiment, addresses the power of healthy relationships in his latest book, Fifty Shades of They.

  • ..The megachurch pastor says he’ll be raising awareness about the perversion of Fifty Shades of Grey by baptizing copies of the book at locations in Dallas, Miami, Florida and London, England.

How about shutting up already? How about not trying to make a buck off a Christianized version of whatever secular culture is selling these days? That is so greedy and LAME.

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Related posts

(Link):  The Odd Evangelical Obsession With Sex and Its Ramifications: article from The Atlantic: The Warrior Wives of Evangelical Christianity 

Pastors avoid ‘controversy’ to keep tithes up, author says – Confirms What I’ve Been Saying All Along, Re: Churches: Contrary to Progressive Christians, Churches / Christians Do Not Support or Idolize Sexual Purity, Virginity, or Celibacy – they attack these concepts when not ignoring them

Pastors avoid ‘controversy’ to keep tithes up, author says – Confirms What I’ve Been Saying All Along, Re: Churches: Contrary to Progressive Christians, Churches / Christians Do Not Support or Idolize Sexual Purity, Virginity, or Celibacy – they attack these concepts when not ignoring them

Pastors avoid ‘controversy’ to keep tithes up, author says

(Link):  Pastors avoid Biblical positions on today’s issues to keep tithes up

(Link): Barna: Many pastors wary of raising ‘controversy’

(Link): Study: Pastors avoid controversy to keep tithes up

I linked to this same article in my previous post and discussed it from another angle,

This time, I am bringing this story up for another reason.

(Link):  Pastors avoid ‘controversy’ to keep tithes up, author says

I’m not surprised. Every time I see the progressive Christians, the ex Christians, and left wing secular feminists complain that Christians over value a woman’s virginity, I want to laugh. I see the total opposite.

Virginity for men and woman is being attacked by Christians, not upheld, defended, respected or esteemed.

(Usually, the entire subject is ignored FOR MEN. Men are not expected to be virgins by anyone on either side of the debate. Men get a pass, even from progressive Christians and secular feminists; ironic.)

Virginity, celibacy, and sexual purity are being written off even by most conservative Christians as being unrealistic, impossible standards for any man or woman to meet, so they have reversed course and say fornication is really not such a big deal.

Further, Christians have sanctioned phrases such as “born again virgin” or “secondary virginity” to console sexual sinners.

With the exception of a tiny minority of far, far out fringe kook groups, like the weirdos who want to see the USA governed by Old Testament laws and penalties, I am not seeing Christians who are demanding that people stay virgins until marriage, speaking out against pre-marital sex, or making sexual purity an idol that they insist Christian girls pursue.

Here are some excerpts from:

(Link):  Pastors avoid ‘controversy’ to keep tithes up, author says

  • by Tom Fontaine
  • Aug 24,  2014
  • Few pastors preach about today’s most challenging political and social issues because they worry about losing members of their flocks and the money they donate, according to a researcher who focuses on issues of Christianity.
  • “Controversy keeps people from being in the seats. Controversy keeps people from giving money, from attending programs,” California-based researcher George Barna said this month in an American Family Radio interview.

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Husband’s Money Mismanagement Gets Couple Evicted Wife Wants A Divorce

Husband’s Money Mismanagement Gets Couple Evicted Wife Wants A Divorce

Boy do I ever relate to this. I don’t blame her one bit for dumping his sorry ass. My ex (fiance) was a financial drain. She should divorce this guy.

Letter to Dear Abby, July 2014:
DEAR ABBY:

    My husband and I have been married for 19 years. We have had our ups and downs, but the last few months have been hell. My husband lies about having paid bills.

    When I ask, “Have you paid the rent?” I mean “in full,” not a partial payment. We have now been evicted for nonpayment of rent and are living in a hotel. Utilities have been cut off because of his partial payments and his lying about their having been paid in full, and I’m tired of it.

    It’s not just the two of us who have been affected because of his mismanagement of money, but also our two children who are caught up in this mess.

    I’m not one of those wives who sit around not knowing what’s going on with the finances. I have bills I pay for the house, too, and after they are paid I give him money to pay other bills.

    I am sick and tired, Abby, and I want to divorce him. What other choice do I have? The “for richer or poorer” thing is no longer working for me. How much should a person tolerate before walking away from marriage?
    — HAD ENOUGH IN TENNESSEE

Dump his broke ass, honey.
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Related posts, this blog:

(Link): Divorced From My Husband, and My Faith by Tova Mirvis – Also: Why It May Be Wiser For Women to Enter First Marriage At Age 40+

(Link): Utah lawmaker targets women with new divorce barriers so men aren’t ‘surprised’ – Alabama Also Considering It

(Link): Divorce Rates in America Decreasing But Divorce Rates on Increase Among Southern Baptists

(Link): Posts By A. Marcotte Re Various Topics E.G.: Pre-Marital Sex, Virginity, Modesty Teachings, Marriage, Divorce, Childfree, Birth Control, Early Marriage, Gender Roles, Female Libido, etc

(Link): Study: Conservative Protestants’ divorce rates spread to their red state neighbors

(Link): Rush to early marriage feeds Utah’s higher-than-average divorce rate (article)

(Link): Pat Robertson: Humans Have Sexual Drives of Animals and Twice Divorced People are “Losers” (ie, they are not marriage material, they keep picking losers)

(Link): Bias and Discrimination Against Singles and Females – Woman Fired by Christian Employer for Being Divorced but Her Male Divorced Co-Workers Not Fired

(Link): Focus on the Family Members Practice Infidelity or Homosexuality and Get Divorced and Remarry – links to exposes

(Link): Remarriage rates plunge as divorced Americans have doubts – and about Christian culture and divorce and remarriage vs singleness

Brief Critique of the J. Daly editorial: Does Casual Sex Empower Women?

Brief Critique of the J. Daly ed: Does Casual Sex Empower Women?

In the midst of looking up Jim Daly’s contact information (so I could tweet him a link of my previous page), I found this linked to on his Twitter page (he wrote it):

(Link) Does Casual Sex Empower Women? by Daly

Here is the part that caught my attention:

    The cultural impact of casual sex

    Sadly, the cheapening of sex is having a long-term impact on marriage… which, in turn, negatively impacts parenting. It’s a tragic chain-reaction of events that work together to undermine the institution of family.

I know that Focus on the Family has a new family-centric film to promote ((Link): unfortunately), and I see the heading there says “cultural impact,” but Mr. Daly, the fact is, some women never marry and never have children, including Christian women.

The Bible does not say God promises all women a marriage partner not even the ones who pray for one and who want one.

If you see my previous post (link), you can see the stats on the number of singles in America.

Many women today are staying single these days, some against their wishes.

(That’s right, the typical conservative Christian canard that women are choosing to stay single because they hate marriage, hate men, or put career above marriage, or had tons of marriage proposals but turned them all down because they were too picky, are false).

There are plenty of Christian women such as myself (though I am half-agnostic now), who were raised in church and by Christian parents to expect, plan for, and count on marriage.

I had hoped for marriage. I still find myself single. I did not plan on being never-married into my 40s. I may never marry.

I am still a virgin. I have never had children.

The church does not support adult virginity – they ignore or shame adult celibate singles (a few links with examples of that can be found at the end of this post, and all over this blog if you search).

It makes no sense, and I see no biblical support, to suggest the only or main reason to argue against casual sex is on the basis of how it may “impact marriage and family.”

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Married Mother charged after allegedly faking cancer and raising thousands in donations

Mother charged after allegedly faking cancer and raising thousands in donations

But… But… Christians say that women who are mothers are total saints, so godly, so pure, incapable of mean or selfish acts! They say parenthood instantly turns someone into a pillar of the community, someone who is more giving and ethical than a childless or child free woman.

And she is married, too. Christians claim that singles are not as mature and responsible as marrieds, but that they are immature and not as grown up as marrieds.

(Link): Mother charged after allegedly faking cancer and raising thousands in donations

    Mindy Taylor of Chillicothe, Ohio has been charged with felony theft after allegedly posing as a cancer patient and weaseling at least $21,000 in donations in an elaborate scheme said to have fooled her own family.
    BY NINA GOLGOWSKI
    NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, April 21, 2014, 5:43 PM

    The 35-year-old married mother from Chillicothe, Ohio has been charged with felony theft after allegedly posing as a cancer patient and weaseling thousands of dollars in donations in a scheme said to have fooled her own family.

    The disturbing revelations of Taylor’s tear-jerker were revealed earlier this month after an anonymous tipster led to her surprisingly cancer-free medical records being subpoenaed, the Columbus Dispatch reported.

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Can You Spot A Gold Digger? (article) – And a word about MALE gold diggers

Can You Spot A Gold Digger? (article)

I have to preface the link below – which is about female gold diggers – by pointing out that I’ve not known or seen many female gold diggers, but I’ve known a lot of male gold diggers, including my ex fiance’.

Many of my female friends and family members have ended up dating or marrying men who are un-employed or under-employed.

Not only do the women in question pay all the bills (while the male sweetie pie spends all day haunting forums on the internet, chatting up friends), but while they are home all day, some of these guys either go out to bars, or, sit on their computer all day.

Meaning, the woman comes home from the job and no laundry has been done while she was gone during the day, and there is still a pile of dirty dishes in the sink.

All of this to say I get really tired of MEN online who bitch and gripe about female gold diggers. They depict all women as being money grubbers, all because their ex wife or ex GF used them for their wallet.

I am sorry if you are a male and that has happened to you, but please, there are a hella lot of MALE gold diggers out there too.

Times have changed. We are no longer living in 1954, where a woman had to depend on a man for a pay check.

These days, a lot of women have no choice but to work, and as I said, I’ve seen so many men sponge off women I know, and these male jerks and users will not even do household chores to help, such as cook meals, go grocery shopping, dust the furniture, etc.

Whoever wrote this page about female gold diggers needs to write one for women on “How to spot male gold diggers” because it’s a big problem.

(Link): Can You Spot A Gold Digger?

    by D Lewak

    …“She just wanted someone to provide for her so she wouldn’t have to work,” he says on reflection. “She was good on paper — attractive, had her career — but she had her own goals.

    “I was so depressed with it all,” he adds.

    Gold diggers are such a problem in NYC, one woman has set up an agency that proclaims it will weed them out.

    Upper East Side matchmaker Janis Spindel founded Club J-Love in 1993 — and since then claims to have 1,008 marriages under her belt. Her specialty? Helping men like K.G. avoid heartbreak — and the loss of hard-earned money — by sussing out a woman’s true motives.

    Continue reading “Can You Spot A Gold Digger? (article) – And a word about MALE gold diggers”