Interesting Links Re Christianity and Gender Roles (A.K.A. Church and Christian Approved Sexism)

Interesting Links Re Christianity and Gender Roles (AKA Church and Christian Approved Sexism)

This is a very good editorial:
(Link): Feminism vs Egalitarianism

(Link): Friday Challenge: Guess The Year [‘How Feminine Am I’ sexist and out-dated check list used by Baptist churches] – Stuff Fundies Like blog

Next link. Regarding the nutso Quiverfull-ish, Doug Phillips, Vision Forusm-ish sexist beliefs of treating women like unthinking chattel and keeping them at home with their fathers, even if they don’t marry into adulthood:

(Link): Sleeping Beauty and the Five Questions, Part 1: Blurring the Lines (TBB) – from Scarlet Letters blog

Excerpts

    My main concern, however, with the vision of SAHD [Stay At Home Daughters] laid out in [Phillips’ version of] Sleeping Beauty is that it seems to progressively break down healthy boundaries in father-daughter relationships.

    … In Sleeping Beauty, however, it becomes clear that “helpmeet” is only one example of a more extensive terminology shift. Fathers are said to “court” and “woo” their daughters and ultimately “win their hearts.”

(Link): Dan Kirby Kopp, 45, was found guilty of beating his wife with a spoon [for not addressing him as “sir” and other stupid crap]

    The video shows Kopp showing her [his wife] the spoon and giving her a ‘count of three to comply’ with his demand of addressing him with a ‘yes, sir’ in front of the couple’s children.

    He is also heard threatening to ‘cast the demons out of her’ next time she disobeyed him.

(Link): “A Year of Biblical Womanhood” Genre Cheat Sheet Rachel Held Evans’ blog

I don’t agree with what appears to be that blog’s rejection of biblical sexual ethics, or disregard for people who have remained virgins into adulthood, in favor of sugarcoating biblical sexual teachings so as to soothe the consciences of women who say they feel shamed or get hurt hearing that pre-marital sex is sinful according to the Bible, but I do agree with the blog’s disdain for biblical gender complementarianism.

Guest comments at that page (and I agree with these comments):

    My favourite is their “committee” page [the writer may be referring to the gender complementarian group CBMW] where each women’s career is labelled “homemaker” and then proceeds to list all the conferences she will be attending for the next 12 months – I added up one of the women’s ‘away’ dates and figured the only way she could be a ‘homemaker’ was if she lived in a motor home.

And:

    Christina Steve Dawson • 7 hours ago −

    I suspect this is true. Otherwise they would have noticed years ago the irony of women building careers in which they travel, write, and speak, all for the purpose of convincing other women not to have careers.

And

    Rachel Held Evans Mod Christina • 7 hours ago −

    Oh my gosh! This DRIVES ME CRAZY! I went to this “biblical womanhood” conference a couple years ago where many of the attendees were professional women with careers. And the speaker – a professional woman herself – proceeded to dis on feminism as an anti-biblical worldview…starting with second wave feminism and using Mary Tyler Moore as an example of a first step away from biblical womanhood. It was so confusing

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Link Round Up: Christian gender double standards on sexual purity, More Craptastic Relationship, Sex, Marriage Advice by Christians for Singles, Lousy and Abusive Mothers, Roman Catholics on Priest Celibacy, Male Fertility – Other Topics

Link Round Up: More Craptastic Relationship, Sex, Marriage Advice by Christians for Singles

There have been several web pages published over the last few weeks, and I don’t have the interest in blogging separately about each one, so here are several of them lumped in to one blog post.

LINK ROUND UP

Stupid advice, cliched:
(Link): James Bond: An Icon in Infidelity

Heart is in right place, but some stupid advice:
(Link): 5 Bible Verses to Comfort Struggling Singles

(Link): Vatican Official Says Priest Celibacy Is Open to Discussion, Possible Modification

(Link): Catholic University Sparks Controversy for Student-Led Workshop on Sex Acts

(Link): CHILDREN ‘CELEBRATE’ MOTHER’S DEATH IN UNUSUAL OBITUARY BRANDING HER AS CRUEL, ABUSIVE

(Link): Mom’s sexy ‘selfies’ ban: Is there a different standard for girls?

(Link): Study: Choose Dads With Smaller ‘Nads – When it comes to family jewels, bigger is not always better

(Link): David Attenborough: Don’t Have Large Families

If I find any more links in my bookmarks, I’ll add those later.

About the links, in more detail:

This was originally posted at “Every Man’s Ministries” but republished at “The Christian Post” and is chock full of naive, unrealistic sex and dating advice to single Christian males:

(Link): James Bond: An Icon in Infidelity

Here are some excerpts, that will make you cringe – by the way, I’m still a virgin in my early 40s, so apparantly God does not have a “beautiful plan for my sex life,” what in the hell is this guy talking about:

    James Bond: An Icon in Infidelity

    How Do You Avoid the License to Thrill?

    Flee.

    Run.

    Do like Joseph and make like the wind and blow out of there.

    God’s Beautiful Plan For Your Sex Life

    You know what women really want? Do you?

    A righteous man. I call him “God’s man.” Women will throw themselves at you if you demonstrate self-control, respect and Godly love for your body and hers. And, once you have found “the one” to be your wife, you will see the beautiful plan God has for your sex life. It’s more amazing than anything you can imagine — a union between man, woman and God.

    It takes maturity to handle this responsibility. Infidelity (contrary to the Hollywood version) is a sign of immaturity and a man who does not have the character to meet the demands a committed relationship. The head scratcher in all of this is how women roll with it, are codependent with it, play into, get hurt by it, endorse it, and let themselves suffer it at every level.

His advice about “running away” from temptation while citing the story of Joseph to boot? This horrible advice is actually detrimental to singles who desire marriage and keeps them single indefinitely: see the book “Singled Out” by Bonnie Field for an explanation of that, though I have discussed that problem in posts on this blog before.

(In a nut shell:

What you do is teach the genders to have self control in each other’s company, not to “flee” from the opposite gender at the first sign of sexual turn on or attraction.

This type of teaching, which amounts to “fear the opposite sex or possibility of fornication,” sets the unmarried up to be afraid of the opposite gender, Christian men will start to view Christian women as pieces of meat or as mere body parts with sexual organs (as temptresses, not as full blown humans in their own right), singles don’t learn to develop boundaries, since they have no practice at it, etc, and it leads to many other problems which keeps Christian singles single forever.)

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Link Dump – Virginity in Venezuela, Christian Sex Hang Ups and Gender Hang Ups – other Links

Link Dump – Virginity in Venezuela, Christian Sex Hang Ups

Link 1. From Christian Post:
(Link 1): How Do You Know If You Were Supposed to Marry Your Spouse?

Link 2. Yeah, good luck with that – I’ve already given up on the “virginity until marriage” propaganda spewed out by Christians.

(Link 2): 5,000 Venezuelan Youths Attend Luis Palau Fest; Thousands Commit to Sexual Purity

    By Jessica Martinez , CP Contributor
    July 11, 2013

    Some 45,000 people attended a youth festival hosted by evangelist Luis Palau in Venezuela last weekend, with thousands committing to sexual purity until marriage during the event.

    Festival goers descended upon the bicentennial fairgrounds of Barquisimeto, Venezuela, for Juventud Libre 2013, where Palau preached about faith and change under the theme, “Venezuela, open your heart to hope.” The event focused on offering an optimistic outlook for the nation’s future in light of its current political and social unrest, which caused 4,000 youths to dedicate their lives to God while the crowd chanted “yes to sexual purity.”

Link 3 discusses:

Churches depicting women (even married ones, so that’s a refreshing change of pace, usually it’s the singles) as sexual temptresses, and, in another rarity, one church instructs males to keep their shirts buttoned up (usually it’s the females who get the insipid “modesty” lectures), and sexual hang-ups by various churches are addressed.

I don’t condone abuse or neglect of women or children, but, I do have to commend this one Christian cult for at least pointing out that motherhood has been made into an idol by some Christians; they are at least right on that score.

(Link 3): Spiritual Abuse in Churches From book about Church abuse; author made the whole book available for free online.

    Chapter 7

    …Women of C-U ministries were totally submissive to males and were barred from leadership or decision-making roles, as well as from work outside the home. Pam says that, “It got to the point where what I had to say usually got suppressed because I knew it was a waste of time to discuss it. I’d lose.”

    …Unfortunately, the harshness of the discipline extended to the children as well. Pam says, “I could cry over some of the spankings they received. Bruised bottoms. They were even calloused.”

    … In December of 1987, ten-year-old Aaron Norman died as result of medical neglect and a beating administered by his father and Doug Kleber. The boy suffered from juvenile diabetes but his parents did not obtain medical care for him, preferring to rely on the healing power of prayer.

    When his physical condition worsened and prayer did not seem to be effective, elders of the church were consulted to determine what the problem was.

    According to a story in the June 21, 1988 issue of the Chicago Tribune, the elders determined that Aaron had sinned. The sin was masturbation, but Aaron would not confess to the sin.

    His father decided to spank Aaron with a board because the Holy Spirit had told him that he had been masturbating. As the Spokane County deputy prosecutor stated, “His father and the elders ‘rebuked’ Aaron to confess, but he wouldn’t. Aaron’s father and Kleber then beat the child . . . A wooden paddle was used at some point until Aaron confessed. On Sunday morning when his parents awoke, Aaron was dead. There were severe bruises on his buttocks.”

    [Regarding another wacko church:]

    …Like many other abusive churches, the Two-by-Two’s impose a restrictive and rigorous life-style on the membership. Women adherents shun makeup and wear long, uncut hair wrapped tightly in buns on the tops of their heads. Jewelry is proscribed, while plain dresses are the norm. Slacks, shorts, and sleeveless blouses are forbidden in public.

    They submit to the men of the group who tend to wear dark-colored clothes and carry black-covered King James Versions of the Bible. Marriages are performed by civil authorities only, since church “workers” do not register with state officials.

    Conformity to a strict life-style is expected of all children and young people in the Truth. They are discouraged from participating in after-school sports and other social activities. Their circle of friends does not extend beyond the group.

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