Gender Complementarian Christians Who Teach Gender Inequality Even in Afterlife – an UPDATE

Gender Complementarian Christians Who Teach Gender Inequality Even in Afterlife – an UPDATE

Hat tip again to Julie Anne of the Spiritual Sounding Board who announced in a Tweet today that CBMW (which is a Christian gender complementarian group) removed a looney editorial by Walton from their site, which I wrote of in an earlier post, here:

(Link): Christian Gender Complementarian Group Teaching That There Will Be Marriage in Afterlife and That Women Must Submit To Males in Heaven

Julie Anne wrote an update about the situation recently, here (at Spiritual Sounding Board):

(Link): Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood Removes Article about Complementarian Roles in New Creation Did they change their minds?

    Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood removes Article about complementarian roles in new creation

    … Let’s be clear – – pulling the article does not mean CBMW has changed their ideology.

She also provided a link to the screen shot of the CBMW page, before it was removed, and it can be viewed here:
(Link): Screen capture of Weirdo “marriage in the afterlife” CBMW Page by Walton

Someone in the thread linked to this related material, from the Strange Figures blog:
(Link): A letter to our sisters, on biblical womanhood in heavenly places

The piece starts out serious (as you can see from the excerpt below), and the author goes into satire (not excerpted here):

    I think the author, Mark David Walton, has shown us the end toward which complementarian theology is heading. While Walton’s piece is several years old, it’s still out there as a resource and other articles have expressed the same idea – the gendered headship/submission model is not temporal. It’s eternal. Get used to it, ladies.

Julie Anne also mentioned that Owen Strachan is the Executive Director of CBMW, and Rachel Held Evans recently took Strachan to the woodshed here:

(Though I do have excerpts from Walton’s the page on (Link): my previous post as well, if you’d like to read for yourself some of the nutty things Walton wrote.)
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Related posts, off site:

(Link): Complementarianism: even in its best form, it is Patriarchy

(Link): The “CAN’T” Chant of Complementarianism

(Link): Com­ple­men­tar­i­an­ism Sucks : Telling Women to Stay Quiet in the name of Jesus

(Link): Question to complementarians: What is my [single, adult woman] gender role?

I agree with point 3 on the list on this site (I do not, however, agree with the author that a literal understanding of the Bible should be rejected, or that the Bible supports homosexuality):
(Link): Reality: The Problem with Complementarianism
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Related posts:

(Link): Christian Gender Complementarian Group Teaching That There Will Be Marriage in Afterlife and That Women Must Submit To Males in Heaven (post at Spiritual Sounding Board)

(Link): The Irrelevancy To Single or Childless or Childfree Christian Women of Biblical Gender Complementarian Roles / Biblical Womanhood Teachings

(Link): Independent Fundamentalist Baptist College Kid Friendship Permission Form – Christians lowering marriage rates due to their own stupid teachings about sex, dating, marriage, etc

(Link): Christian Gender Complementarian Group (CBMW) Anti Virginity and Anti Sexual Purity Stance (At Least Watered Down) – and their Anti Homosexual Marriage Position

‘It’s like living with adultery on a daily basis and having the woman come home’: Former sister wife exposes oppressive realities of polygamy

‘It’s like living with adultery on a daily basis and having the woman come home’: Former sister wife exposes oppressive realities of polygamy

(Link): ‘It’s like living with adultery on a daily basis and having the woman come home’: Former sister wife exposes oppressive realities of polygamy in the wake of federal ruling that further decriminalizes the practice in Utah

    -In December, a federal judge ruled Utah’s law against cohabitation was a violation of the First Amendment right to freedom of religion

    -Marion Munn was a polygamist sister wife for 18 years and says it’s not a choice for many women in the fundamentalist sects

    -But the decision comes as a big win for the estimated 40,000 Utah polygamists who can now live their lifestyle more openly

    By AFP and DAILY MAIL REPORTER
    PUBLISHED: 11:02 EST, 9 February 2014

    A former sister wife has spoken out against the polygamous lifestyle, following a new federal ruling that decriminalizes the practice in Utah.
    Marion Munn moved to Utah from Britain after converting to a fundamentalist Mormon faith, and says she was part of a plural marriage for 18 years
    ‘The only way that I can explain it is like living with adultery on a daily basis, and having the woman come home,’ Munn said.

    ‘On top of that you have to smile and pretend that everything’s okay because that’s part of the culture too.’

    The practice of polygamy has long been illegal in the United States, and especially persecuted in the state of Utah ever since the Mormon church decided to get rid of Joseph Smith’s principal of plural marriage to become more mainstream.

    But fundamentalist Mormons have continued the practice, with an estimated 40,000 Utah residents currently living in plural marriages.

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Related posts, this blog:

(Link): Modesty Teachings – When Mormons Sound like Christians and Gender Complementarians

TV Pervert Claims Not to Be A Pervert and Laughably Claims “All of America is Having Sex”

TV Pervert Claims Not to Be A Pervert and Laughably Claims “All of America is Having Sex”

This guy is a pervert but claims not to be one. The part that killed me though, was this quote of his: “All of America is having sex.”

I know we are living in a sex-saturated culture, and even Christian culture is creepily obsessed with sex, and it sure seems as though everyone is having sex, but it’s not true that “everyone is doing it.”

I hate to say it, but this a big, big assumption not just with polygamyist perverts like that guy and the Non Christians, but is a view that is shared among evangelical, Baptist, fundamentalist, and Reformed Christians.

Many conservative Christian groups, including, sadly, a lot of preachers, assume that nobody is celibate anymore, and they pattern their materials, commentary, and sermons to follow suit. These sorts of Christians assume everyone who is not married yet by their mid-20s caves in and starts having pre-marital sex.

One result of this false thinking is that Christian adults who are still virgins (as they have not married) past the age of 30, get no support from other Christians.

There are no sermons, books, or radio broadcasts which discuss the needs and problems of adult celibates, or that encourage them to hang on and not give in. Adult, Christian celibates are without a support system.

(Link): ‘We’re normal times five’: Polygamist stars of ‘My Five Wives’ ask people not to judge their unconventional family

    By DAILY MAIL REPORTER and ASSOCIATED PRESS
    PUBLISHED: 22:22 EST, 3 March 2014

    Just because he has five wives and 24 children doesn’t mean Brady Williams isn’t normal.

    Or at least that’s the message he wanted America to receive during an interview with the Huffington Post in which the polygamist stars of TLC’s ‘My Five Wives’ spoke candidly about hopes to dispel the myths surrounding their unconventional lifestyle.

    ‘All of America’s having sex,’ Brady said. ‘And it’s no big deal to just answer it and to just say ‘Duh no we’re not perverted, we’re not twisted, we’re just normal.’

(Link): ‘My Five Wives’: Meet TLC’s newest polygamist family

    The “Sister Wives” aren’t the only polygamist family on TLC. Meet the Williams family, the polygamist Utah clan profiled on the network’s newest reality series, “My Five Wives,” premiering Sunday, March 9 at 10 p.m. ET/PT.

    Patriarch Brady Williams is 43 years old and was raised a Mormon. Now, however, he and his five wives live a non-denominational plural lifestyle. He’s been married for 21 years to his first wife, Paulie, and his second wife, Robyn; 19 years to his third wife, Rosemary; 16 years to his fourth wife, Nonie; and 14 to his fifth wife, Rhonda. Between all five of his wives, he has 24 children.

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Related posts this blog:

(Link): Douglas Wilson and Christian Response FAIL to Sexual Sin – No Body Can Resist Sex – supposedly – Re Celibacy

(Link): Why So Much Fornication – Because Christians Have No Expectation of Sexual Purity

This also discusses typical, flawed Christian views about adult singleness and celibacy:
(Link): Preacher Mark Driscoll Basically Says No, Single Christian Males Cannot or Should Not Serve as Preachers / in Leadership Positions – Attempts to Justify Unbiblical, Anti Singleness Christian Bias

(Link): False Christian Teaching: “Only A Few Are Called to Singleness and Celibacy” or (also false): God’s gifting of singleness is rare – More Accurate: God calls only a few to marriage and God gifts only the rare with the gift of Marriage

(Link): Singles and the Church: Why It Sucks to be Unintentionally Overlooked (from The Sexy Celibate blog)

(Link): Christian Stereotypes About Female Sexuality : All Unmarried Women Are Supposedly Hyper Sexed Harlots – But All Married Ones are Supposedly Frigid or Totally Uninterested in Sex