Portly Pastors Make up More Than a Third of American Clergy

Portly pastors make up more than a third of American clergy

And some of these Christian fatsos are selling – or trying to sell – diet books and diet plans…

Such as Rev. Rick Warren and his “Daniel Diet Plan” program (read more at this off site linkthis off site link or this one or this one), or tub of lard pastor John Hagee (read more about that at this link on this blog).

(Link):  Portly pastors make up more than a third of American clergy


  • Jan 14, 2015
  • …Published in the journal Social Science Research, the study from researchers at Baylor University and LSU found that more than one-third of US clergy members are obese. The study team found that stress, long hours, limited pay and self-neglect are the main driving forces.
  • …However, the study team found that regularly attending communal dinners isn’t the driving force behind preacher obesity. One of the biggest factors, the study found, is that clergy are often low paid for their religious work and need to either work with multiple congregations or pick up a secondary occupation.
  • This stress and added demands of a second professional responsibility could make maintaining a healthy lifestyle more challenging than it normally would be, the researchers said.


Related posts:

(Link):  Tubby Lardo Preacher John Hagee has Colbert on His Show AGAIN to Discuss Dieting

(Link): Hysterical: Hagee Gives Sermon on Fasting


Mega Church Preacher Rick Warren Says He’s Concerned about Marriage Being “Redefined”

Mega Church Preacher Rick Warren Says He’s Concerned about Marriage Being “Redefined”

As a never-married woman past the age of 40 who desired marriage, I can’t get worked up over whether or not homosexuals get married.

If churches, Baptists, and evangelicals showed even one ounce the passion towards helping the never- married singles (including the HETERO ones, and the divorced / widowed) as they do ranting against homosexual marriage, I could maybe muster up a tiny bit of outrage over homosexual marriage. Or not.

But at the very least, it’s surprising that while there is a boatload of unwanted, protracted singleness among adult Christian women, rather than helping these women get married, these famous preachers (and even less famous ones) choose to moan and gripe about homosexual marriage.

I do agree with Warren’s comments below that tolerance has become a one-way street, particularly in regards to issues such as homosexuality: it now means, you must not just merely “tolerate” homosexuality, to live and let live with those whom you disagree, but you must celebrate it and think it’s awesome.

The “tolerance” only goes one way these days, where social liberals and left wingers show no tolerance towards right wingers and social conservatives. I’m tired of that double standard.

But, churches need to get on the ball helping celibate hetero and homosexual singles, instead of raging constantly against homosexual marriage.

(Link): Rick Warren on Redefining Marriage: I Fear God’s Disapproval More Than Man’s

    December 8, 2013

    Pastor Rick Warren of Southern California’s Saddleback megachurch explained his position on tolerance, homosexuality and marriage during an interview with Piers Morgan on CNN, telling the journalist he is most concerned about the attempts to redefine the term “marriage.”

    “While I may disagree with you on your views on sexuality, this does not give me the right to demean you, to demoralize you, to defame you, to turn you into a demon,” Pastor Warren stressed on the onset.

    Tolerance, Warren said, used to mean that we treat each other with mutual respect even if we have major disagreements. But that has changed.

    “Today, tolerance has been changed to mean, all ideas are equally valid,” Warren told Morgan. “Well, that’s non-sense, OK. All ideas are not equally valid. You can say the moon is made of cheese, or I can say the moon is made of beans…”

Related posts:

(Link): To Get Any Attention or Support from a Church These Days you Have To Be A Stripper, Prostitute, or Orphan

(Link): New website launched to help Christians experiencing same-sex attraction / Editorial about Celibacy by Ed Shaw

(Link): Never Married Christians Over Age 35 who are childless Are More Ignored Than Divorced or Infertile People or Single Parents

(Link): Want To But Can’t – The One Christian Demographic Being Continually Ignored by Christians Re: Marriage

(Link): Astonishing: Evangelical Baptist Marriage Idolater David E. Prince Wants to Know Why Evangelical Baptists Are Not Worshipping Marriage More

(Link): Why Do Christians Ask if Homosexuals Can Change Their Orientation – Why Not Explain that Celibacy is an Option?

(Link): Southern Baptists on Boy Scouts and Homosexuals – Misplaced Priorities

(Link): Did Gay Marriage Provoke A Conversation About No Marriage At All? (editorial)

(Link): Focus on the Family Members Practice Infidelity or Homosexuality and Get Divorced and Remarry – links to exposes

(Link): Married Youth Pastor Father of Four Caught Raping and Molesting Several Little Boys claims the molesting kept the boys sexually pure and cures them of homosexuality

Married Preacher Sends Nude Photos to Married Woman, Hits On Her, Tells Her to Divorce Spouse, Has Sex With Woman In Church Building – Married People Are Sexual Deviants, Not Singles

Preacher Sends Nude Photos to Married Woman, Hits On Her, Tells Her to Divorce Spouse, Has Sex With Woman In Church Building

(Link): Sex Charges Rock Purpose Driven Healthy Church

I can’t figure out if the preacher is married or not, but his female target was married. (Edit, yes he is married. I added the info below).

If I understand the article right, she did cave in at one point and have sex with him, or sent him nude photos.

I re read the article. The article mentions they had sex IN their church building, even during the time the idiot preacher was doing marital counseling for her and her spouse.

Being married is not a guarantee that one will be immune from sexual sin, nor does marriage necessarily make a person more mature, godly, or responsible.

Since this guy worked as a Christian preacher, how or why should a Christian single woman bother dating or marrying Christian men only? Self professing Christian males act no better than Non Christian ones.

(Link): Sex Charges Rock Purpose Driven Healthy Church

      Warren’s model pastor accused of manipulating woman for ‘perverted pleasures’

    Published: 12/11/2012 at 9:30 PM

  • Pastor Dale Lee McFarland was an up-and-coming star in the “Purpose Driven Church” movement, having left his position as a Microsoft executive to launch a thriving megachurch in Arizona and travel the world with evangelical superstar Rick Warren to train others in the methods of “The Purpose Driven Life.”
  • McFarland’s congregation, Radiant Church in Surprise, Ariz., had even boasted of receiving the Church Health Award from Purpose Driven Ministries and had grown to be one of the largest Assemblies of God churches in the country.
  • But earlier this year, a couple in the church filed a lawsuit, Courthouse News reports, alleging McFarland told the wife to have sex with him with “God’s approval” and divorce her husband.
  • Derek and Jody Gallagher claim McFarland “breached his duty as a pastor and counselor when [he] began manipulating a vulnerable Jody for his personal, perverted sexual pleasures.”
  • The Gallaghers’ sordid story includes charges McFarland told Jody her husband was “dangerous” and convinced her to change her home’s locks, sent her salacious and pornographic messages, exchanged nude photographs with her and manipulated her into having sex with him in the church building, even while he was offering the couple marriage counseling.
  • The Gallaghers, who are reportedly still married and seeking counseling elsewhere, are suing McFarland, Radiant Church Assembly of God and the Arizona District Council of the Assemblies of God in Maricopa County Court for $6.6 million, claiming breach of fiduciary duty, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress and other claims.
  • McFarland, meanwhile, is no longer employed at Radiant Church, and in fact, the church has scrubbed all mention of him from its website.
  • The allegations, however, have caused some detractors of the Purpose Driven movement and its founder, Rick Warren, to renew their criticism.
  • …But Warren’s critics have claimed his Purpose Driven ministry emphasizes only doing good, while dodging the kind of biblical repentance that is needed for a person – or a pastor – to have their life transformed by Christ. The Purpose Driven Church model, or PDC, discounts the fear of the Lord, Warren’s critics say, while encouraging pastors to become “masters” of their churches instead of servants.
  • …The Gallaghers claim that McFarland’s wife, Sandra, “knew about her husband’s adulterous behavior and his penchant for pursing vulnerable women congregants of his flock, married or unmarried and was complicit in his behavior by choosing to allow it to continue, knowing other women would be harmed and victimized.”

From another (Link): source:

    The Gallaghers claim that McFarland “gradually increased the pornographic style of his communications and even persuaded Jody to send him nude pictures of herself and to exchange nude pictures of himself.

  • He proposed clandestine meetings at motels, including one in Prescott near where Jody lived, and provided her cash for such purposes.
  • He described in crude and rude terms his desire to ‘F***’ her on his Harley and told of his visions of her private ‘wet’ body parts and ‘Ah-mazing’ other body features that he described in crude ways and intimate detail,” the complaint states.
  • Jody claims McFarland manipulated her “into having physical relations with him in the inner sanctum of the pastor’s chambers after he arranged for all staff to be absent” – the “very same place where McFarland provided Derek marriage counseling just days after having sexual relations with Derek’s wife Jody.”

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(Link): Woman charged with raping boy inside church

(Link):  Alabama Preacher Admits to having AIDS, Sleeping with Church Members

(Link):  Married Preacher (Davis) Found Guilty of Exposing Women to HIV

(Link): Christians Are Following Secular Trends in Premarital Sex, Cohabitation Outside of Marriage, Says Dating Site Survey (survey/article)

(Link): Pastor charged in wife’s murder was headed to Europe to marry boyfriend, prosecutor says – Single Xtian Ladies: Kick that Be Equally Yoked Teaching to the Curb! Also: Marriage and Parenthood do not make people more godly or mature or loving or ethical

Christians and Non Christians Attacking Rick Warren in His Time of Grief

Christians and Non Christians Attacking Rick Warren in His Time of Grief – along with militant Non-Christian, homosexual lunatics. (This is my second attempt at posting this. WordPress would not publish it yesterday)

(This post may contain strong language, so if you’re one of those delicate little flower Christians who doesn’t care for cuss words or crude terms, please click away now. If not, read ahead at your own risk, don’t complain to me about the language. Thanks.)

I’ve (Link): written before about Christians who vilify and attack people, including Rick Warren.

I’ve read Rick Warren’s “Purpose Driven Life” book and didn’t see anything objectionable in it, nothing unbiblical. He essentially spends the book telling people their meaning is to be found in Christ alone, not in money, career, marriage, or fame.

I have read that some Christians have been hurt by Warren’s “church driven” strategy, which is, if I understand it properly, to make drastic changes to a church and unceremoniously kick out any members, even “long timers,” who disagree with the new approach. If this is true, I’m sure this approach has created hurt Christians, and I’m sorry for that.

However, as this reporter discusses in the page I’ve linked to, after the suicide of Rick Warren’s 20-something son this past week, Warren has been getting harassed over it and receiving hateful comments on the internet not only from Non-Christians, but also from professing Christians.

Link: Christian Leaders Appalled at Hurtful Responses to Rick Warren’s Family Tragedy

Before I discuss the hate mail he’s been getting from Christians: according to a different news source I saw yesterday, most of the Non-Christians sending Warren hate mail in the aftermath of his son’s passing are perturbed because Warren does not support homosexual marriage (I think Warren supported Prop 8 in California, and that is their grudge against the man?).

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WordPress and Censorship – doesn’t want to publish posts about controversial topics – pastor Rick Warren harassed after death of son

Word press into cenorship? Blog refusing to publish my post
This is one of the links I wanted to publish in my original post:
Link: Christian Leaders Appalled at Hurtful Responses to Rick Warren’s Family Tragedy
In light of the fact that Rick Warren has been getting hate mail after the suicide of his son from Christians and from Non Christian homosexual militants (it’s my understanding Warren is getting hate mail from homosexual militants and their loony hetero allies because Warren does not support the legalization of homosexual marriage), I wrote a post expressing disgust about it – but WordPress refuses to publish it.

Each time I click the “Publish” button, WordPress loads a page asking me, “Are you SURE you want to publish this?” When I click “Yeah, I’m sure,” it takes me back to the composition box and will not publish the post.

I might try again to publish it, later. I have a copy of the post saved to my hard drive.

To be crystal clear, the reason this post has been tagged with phrases such as “Kooks and Crazies” is in reference to any Christians and homosexual militants who have been sending hate mail to Warren in his time of grief – such phrases are NOT in reference to suicidal people or people with mental health problems (e.g., depression).

Christians SUCK at Helping People Who Have Mental Health Issues

Christians SUCK at helping people who have mental health problems. (Ask me how I know.)

(Link): Death of Rick Warren’s Son a Call to Address Mental Illness, Samuel Rodriguez Says


By Anugrah Kumar, Christian Post Contributor
April 7, 2013|9:02 am
The tragedy of the 27-year-old son of Pastor Rick Warren taking his own life after a lifelong struggle with mental illness calls for a commitment by Christians to help create space for and minister to those with mental illnesses, says the Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference.

“Yet, this tragedy facilitates an opportunity if not an obligation for the Christian community to address mental illness,” said Rodriguez on the day Warren, an internationally known Christian leader at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., made the announcement about his son.

Mental illness exists in and outside of the church community, said Rodriguez. “Christians struggle with depression and even suicidal thoughts. It does not make you less of a Christian. Just like heart disease or cancer does not dilute our Christianity, neither does mental illness.”

…Suffering from mental illness is not a sin, the Hispanic leader underlined, and added, “Yet, not addressing it, may very well be.”

Good luck with getting Christians to address mental health problems and showing sympathy to those who suffer from it, pal.

I was diagnosed with clinical depression when under the age of 15 and dealt with it for years. Went to psychiatrists, took anti-depressants, read the Bible, prayed for a healing, and absolutely nothing worked. I used to have panic attacks too, and had an anxiety disorder – I still have a bit of a problem with anxiety, actually.

I was finally set free a year or two ago from the depression, but that’s another story.

In my journey through depression, I can tell you that Christians who do not have depression do not understand it at all, and most are insensitive, unsupportive bastards about it.

There are any number of false, stupid, hurtful, infuriating stereotypes and myths Christians spread and believe about depression and other mental health problems, such as-

1. “Genuine” Christians cannot, or will never, have mental health problems;

2. Seeking mental health professional help, whether Chrisitan or secular, is wrong;

3. Taking medication for mental health issues, or for anxiety attacks, is wrong;

4. If you just pray to God and have faith, God will heal you of your panic attacks, depression, etc;

5. It’s all in your head and a matter of mere will power: you can will yourself out of depression and “choose” to be happy (or have enough faith in God and the panic attacks will clear up);

6. If you serve other people more (e.g., volunteer at soup kitchens), you will be so preoccupied with other people or be so uplifted by serving, that you won’t have time to think about being depressed, or volunteering will just automatically clear the depression up;

7. Read the Bible and pray, and that will cure depression and panic attacks;

8. Your depression must be due to personal sin or a character defect

There are so many stereotypes Christians hold about mental health problems, I may have forgotten to mention a few.

What I can tell you is that all of those reasons and stereotypes are utter bullshit.

Secular therapy and pills never helped me, but if you are someone who has a mental health disorder, don’t hesitate to give that a try.

Don’t let any Christian pastor, school of theological thought, or any discernment blogs and sites talk you out of using mental health professionals or convince you that you are to blame somehow for having a mental health disorder.

Christian Heresy Hunters, Discernment Sites – some musings

Christian Heresy Hunters, Discernment Sites – some musings

I do think there is a need and a place for Christians who teach other believers about false teachings and to expose false teachers for what they are.

I do not consider it sinful, wrong, or automatically unloving for a Christian to judge or condemn the unbiblical teachings of other Christians, especially that of prominent pastors, and to publicize it on the internet.

I do, however, have a few misgivings or problems with such sites.

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