Church-Goer and Her Pastor Lover Killed Her Husband So They Could Be Together

Church-Goer and Her Pastor Lover Killed Her Husband So They Could Be Together

(Disclaimer: I am a conservative, always have been. This does not mean I completely agree with other conservatives on all issues.)

This news story once more disproves several Christian and secular conservative assumptions, such as: marriage makes people more godly, mature, and responsible; that God will not grant an imperfect person a spouse, and that being “Equally Yoked” (marrying another Christian) means that your spouse will be up-standing, a decent person, loving, caring, etc.

(Link):  Church-Goer and Her Pastor Lover Killed Her Husband So They Could Be Together March 2017, by Gail Shortland

Excerpts:

Cindy was devoted to the church and the clergyman who preached there…

…Accountant Cindy Reese, 40, lived with her husband Michael, also 40, in Morris, Alabama. They’d been married six years, and had met after Cindy’s first husband had committed suicide.

The couple had a seemingly normal and idyllic life in their picture-perfect white-painted house nestled under the shade of the trees.

…The couple were religious and regularly attended the local Sardis Baptist Church, where Cindy was also head of music. But things were far from perfect. In 2013, Jeffery Brown, 36, became senior pastor at the church.

Cindy was taken with the clergyman and they started an affair.

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Clueless, Naive, 52 Year Old Idiot Cheats on “Woman Of His Dreams”

Clueless, Naive, 52 Year Old Idiot Cheats on “Woman Of His Dreams”

If you felt like this woman was the “girl of your dreams,” there was no reason to cheat on her – well, not that cheating in other contexts is okay. I am baffled. He says this new girlfriend was the “girl of his dreams,” but he still cheated on her? Idiot.

He feels that getting re-baptized at a church would some how convince her to stay with him and not break up. Clueless.

He complains in this letter about being in “two weeks of loneliness” ever since his girlfriend broke up with him.

Oh boo hoo and SHUT UP. I’ve spent much, much longer (over a decade) single and alone, so don’t come crying to me or someone else about being single for TWO WEEKS, you dolt.

(Link): Source for the following letter.

DEAR AMY: I am a 52-year-old divorced man.

A year ago I met “Carla,” the woman of my dreams. Then last summer, I lost my job. I was under a lot of stress.

I started texting with an old girlfriend. Some conversations became sexual. I consider myself a good guy with strong morals, but I failed. The woman forwarded the texts to Carla. She was devastated and ended our relationship.

I have sent cards, flowers and many texts. Carla said she’s moving on and that I should, too. But what I did affected me so much that I was baptized at my church because I needed a fresh start.

I need to show the love of my life that I’m not playing around anymore.

I will do anything to get my girl back. It has been two weeks of loneliness, but it feels like a lifetime.

I know I shouldn’t push too hard. But I don’t want to be forgotten.

Signed,

Devastated

What an idiot.

Christian Charity Head Admits Using Donations for Sex Habit

Christian Charity Head Admits Using Donations for Sex Habit

This article says that this guy is married (or was at one point; I have no idea if he’s still married to his wife or not).

Christians often think that married people are more sexually pure and moral than adult singles – they will often refuse to allow adult singles to serve in leadership positions in churches, one reason being, they assume that the single will “hit on” or start affairs with other people.

But if you will notice, the majority of news stories about Christians who are involved in affairs or looking at child porn and what have you, are MARRIED persons, NOT singles.

Which is not to say there are not self-professing Christian singles who aren’t sexually sinning, because there sure as heck are, but I’m so tired of this Christian stereotype that married people are as pure as the freshly driven snow, while we singles are supposedly a bunch of over-sexed horn dogs.

I myself am over the age of 40, and I am celibate. I am more sexually up-right than a lot of Christian married people. So Christians who harbor these stereotypes about singles being Jezebel harlots and married people being sexually pure can kiss my butt.

By the way, does the “be equally yoked” rule Christians apply to marriage REALLY MATTER when the “Christian” husband ends up cheating on his wife by using pornography or prostitutes or he has a mistress?

Does this example REALLY up-hold the Christian teaching that God expects a person to be mature or godly before he will permit him or her to have a spouse? No, it does not.

If God expected people to be totally moral, ethical, mature, and godly before allowing them to have a spouse, the idiot in this news story would still be single – but he’s not. He has a wife (or did. I am not clear if the wife is still with him or not).

(Link): Director of Cedar Rapids nonprofit skimmed donations to support ‘sex addiction’

(Link): Christian charity head admits using donations for sex habit 

(Link): Christian Charity Head Admits Using Donations for Sex Habit

  • by R. Roley
  • May 2016
  • The president of a Christian charity in Iowa admitted that he embezzled nearly a half-million dollars in donations and used the money to pay for a sex addiction, federal prosecutors said Tuesday.
  • Jon S. Petersen, of Cedar Rapids, pleaded guilty Monday to one count of filing a false tax return. He was released from custody pending a sentencing hearing, which hasn’t been scheduled.
  • Petersen, 55, is the longtime president of World Ambassadors, Ltd., a nonprofit he founded with his wife in 1993 to provide a Christian outreach to international students on college campuses.

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Church Knew of Preacher’s Affairs, Advised Him To Keep It Quiet

Church Knew of Preacher’s Affairs, Advised Him To Keep It Quiet

This is a follow up to my previous post (there are further updates at the bottom of this post):

The pastor I reference in my headline of this blog post is Tullian Tchividjian.

I know I probably should not be surprised at this point, but I still find myself surprised or dumbfounded at how so many Christians or churches today do not take sexual sins seriously.

I already know that most churches prefer to hear sexual purity sermons (Link): from fornicators than they do from actual, honest- to- God adult virgins.

But I thought, maybe, just maybe, some churches out there at least have the sense to sermonize against adultery and other sorts of sexual sins, or hold sexual sinners  ~ especially pastors who commit adultery or some other sort of sexual sin – accountable.

But no. They don’t.

This article says that this church knew about their preacher’s adultery (even the previous one), and asked him to keep it hush-hush.

Unbelievable.

What is that verse from the Bible, again?: “God is shamed and judged negatively among the Gentiles because of your behavior.” -or something like that.

Okay, take that verse and reword it slightly to, “God is shamed and judged harshly among the Non-Christians because of your behavior,” and I think that would apply.

Do these churches and people claiming the name of Jesus Christ not care at all about what Jesus taught?

Do churches today and Christians not care about Christian ethics and morality, about doing the right thing, even if doing so may be unpopular?

How can anyone who claims to be a Jesus-follower be so causal about following His teachings?

Note that this other woman he had an affair with is MARRIED.

That’s right, Christians like to depict SINGLE women as the threats to married men, when here we have married people cheating on their spouses with OTHER MARRIED PEOPLE.

(Link): Coral Ridge Elders Knew of Tullian Tchividjian’s Affair With Married Woman, Advised Him to Keep Secret, Source Alleges 

  • BY LEONARDO BLAIR , CHRISTIAN POST REPORTER
  • March 18, 2016|4:07 pm
  • At least two elders at Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Florida allegedly had knowledge that their former pastor, Tullian Tchividjian, grandson to evangelical icon Billy Graham, had engaged in an adulterous affair with a married member of his flock and advised him to keep it secret from his wife.

    Reacting to a (Link): report in The Christian Post Thursday that Tchividjian was fired by Willow Creek Church in Winter Springs, Florida, after they were blindsided by his latest confession, a highly placed source informed CP Friday that the recent disclosure is really the result of a “systemic cover up” by church leaders that began two years ago.

    “Tullian had actually been confronted about that two years ago. At the time, he was confronted by two elders at Coral Ridge and Steve Brown (Key Life Ministries), and confessed to having a relationship with a married woman,” said the source.

    “At the time, he was not advised to step down as lead pastor, but instead was advised not to immediately inform his wife about the matter — she only learned about this last week. To make matters worse, the two elders never informed the rest of the session about this situation. One can only wonder whether the second situation could have been averted if the first situation had not been covered up,” the source continued.

    “This is not a situation that Tullian had kept quiet and suddenly disclosed to someone for the first time last week. It’s been known by at least three others in addition to Tullian and the woman involved for over two years,” the source added.

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Family: Tennessee church hid bathroom rape of 3-year-old, lied to parents and urged against prosecution – Ditch the Equally Yoked Teaching

Family: Tennessee church hid bathroom rape of 3-year-old, lied to parents and urged against prosecution by D. Edwards – Ditch the Equally Yoked Teaching

One reason of several I’m no longer so keen on seeking a mate at a Christian church – as dear old Mom and Dad raised me to consider – is because a lot of perverts and wife abusers attend churches, AND the churches cover up for these dirt bags when the dirt bags do abuse children or women.

I really don’t think I want to attempt to pursue a romantic relationship in the context of an entity that thinks it’s acceptable to cover up any abuse a teen takes against a kid, or a grown man takes against a woman.

But many, many churches try to hide or sweep abuse cases under the carpet, AND they will often victim-blame the victim on top of that.

If you are a single woman, would you REALLY trust any single man you meet at the following church? I would not. I really hesitate any more to view church as a safe place to meet a potential husband.

Not only do some real dirt balls attend church, but the church itself will often brush off or cover up for the abuser and refuse to help the victim.

And, this is the height of hypocrisy. Most churches claim to believe in “the family” and in protecting the “traditional family,” and they go around talking about “family values” constantly, yet, when a child is fondled or raped by a teen or adult, these same churches try to cover up the abuse!

The church will often counsel the parents to refrain from calling law enforcement. How is sweeping crime and sin against children being “pro family values”? It is not.

(Link):  Family: Tennessee church hid bathroom rape of 3-year-old, lied to parents and urged against prosecution

Excerpts:

  • by D. Edwards
  • A Family filed a lawsuit this week against a church in Brentwood, Tennessee for allegedly covering up the rape of their 3-year-old child.
  • The lawsuit, which was (Link):  obtained by WTVF, indicates that the family left their 3-year-old-boy in the care of the church’s Children’s Ministry on the Sunday of August 24, 2014.

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Christian Host Pat Robertson Tells Christian Woman Who Married Christian Man Who Turned Out to Be Totally Unethical That She has Discernment of a Slug – Single Women: toss Be Equally Yoked teaching in the trash can

Christian Host Pat Robertson Tells Christian Woman Who Married Christian Man Who Turned Out to Be Totally Unethical That She has Discernment of a Slug – Single Women: toss Be Equally Yoked teaching in the trash can

One fallacy about marriage that sometimes pops up by Christians is that you have to obtain sinless perfection before God will gift you with a spouse.

However, the man below managed to get married, even though he says he is a Christian and he steals from people. He obviously is not godly or perfect, yet he still managed to get a spouse.

A woman wrote a question to the show The 700 Club asking Christian host Pat Robertson if she is morally bound to stay married to a man who “presented himself as a Christian” but who has had four DUIs (driving while intoxicated), went on to swindle a church out of $10,000 and who did a bunch of other bad things.

I usually embed the video or link to the video of Robertson responding to these questions but this particular video has not been uploaded to the 700 Club’s Bring It On page yet. ((Link): Bring It On page below.)

(Edit. This might be the video:
(Link): Bring It On – Pat Robertson Answers Questions – also, it’s embedded )

In his reply, Robertson talks about “fraud of inducement” but opened his comments by insulting the woman and telling her she has the “discernment of a slug.” He also calls her “crazy” and “blind.”

As I’ve said time and before on this blog, a lot of Christians unnecessarily limit a Christian single woman’s dating pool, and hence chances of marriage, by quoting “be not yoked” at her, as if to say they think this verse teaches that a Christian may only marry another Christian.

As I’ve also said, I see no point in a Christian woman limiting herself to dating only Christian males, when I have example after example on this blog of news stories or reports of Christian men who turn out to use prostitutes, they turn out to be pedophiles, serial rapists, and killers (such as at this link)

On top of that, there are online communities, support groups, for Christian women who explain they had to divorce their Christian husband because he was physically or verbally abusive, or, he was a serial cheater (adulterer).

I have said before an unmarried Christian woman needs to cast off the “be not yoked, only marry another Christian” mantra to judge a man based on his character.

A man claiming to be a Christian, a man going to church every week, a man reading his Bible daily, and so on, is not a guarantee that he will treat a woman well.

A man can be a professing Christian, daily Bible reader, and faithful church attendee, and still be an abusive jerk or dirt ball.

You need to look past what claims a man makes about his religious beliefs and judge him based on his character.

In addition, you need to look at behavior, not what the guy says about himself.

What gets my goat about this woman’s letter to the Christian 700 Club show, which is hosted by Robertson, is that despite following the Christian propaganda to marry only another Christian – someone who claims to be Christian – she gets insulted and mocked by another Christian, in this case, Robertson, for it.

Robertson tells this woman she must “have the discernment of a slug” for marrying this guy.

This Christian woman follows the common Christian idea that a Christian should only marry another Christian, and when she does, and the guy turns out to be a lying thief scum bag, she gets raked over the coals by a Christian who ridicules her mate selection criteria, which was, I remind you, based on the “be not yoked to a Non-Christian” philosophy.

By the way, this is common. In my reading over the years about relationships, dating, and marriage, I have seen too many testimonies about how women married a guy who seemed caring and compassionate at first only to turn into an abusive rat after marriage.

Some abusive men are very crafty and cunning at hiding their controlling, abusive natures when dating a woman.

I don’t have the time to get into it here, but in books and blogs by counselors who are experts on abusive men, they explain that it is entirely possible for a woman to be blindsided by a man, not knowing he’s abusive until she’s deeper into the relationship, because a lot of abusive men do not become overly controlling and mean spirited until certain thresh holds have been reached in a relationship, and it differs from man to man. For some abusive men, that thresh hold is marriage.

They keep their loving mask on until marriage, where they toss it aside to reveal their true nature.

Go look at forums for Christian women who divorced their husbands.

Many of these ladies swear up and down that their husband was a born again believer who loved Jesus, read his Bible, “knew” his Bible well, and some of these men even worked as preachers. Yet, these men were still abusive towards their wives.

It’s just remarkable to me and another kind of fraud that in a day and age that so many adult, single Christian women who want marriage but find themselves single, that other Christians artificially limit their chances at marriage by telling them to cross all Non Christian males off the list, which can keep these ladies single indefinitely, but, if they do marry a self professing Christian, and he turns out to be an abusive, loser of a cad, they get shamed for it by Christian personalities.

Christian women are damned if they do by Christian culture and damned if they do not.

Edit.
Pat Robertson telling woman with troubled marriage she has discernment of a slug, embedded from You Tube (aired May 5, 2014)
The woman’s question is the second or third topic discussed by Roberston, after discussion of Islam, and a question about being married in a court vs being married in church:

Edit 2.
A couple days after I made this blog post, this other site ran this story:

(Link): Pat Robertson berates woman for ungodly husband: You have ‘the discernment of a slug’

    Televangelist Pat Robertson on Monday castigated a woman for marrying a man who later turned out not to be a “born again” Christian.

In a letter to The 700 Club, a viewer named Patty explained that she had “married a man who presented himself as a born again believer.”

But she later found out that he was not what he seemed.

“In the 7 years we have been together he has had 4 DUIs, been convicted of receiving stolen property, and recently deceived a ministry out of $15,000,” Patty wrote. “Am I morally bound to this marriage?”

“You must have been crazy or you must have been blinded to get into [that] relationship,” Robertson told the viewer. “He — quote — presented himself [as a born again Christian]. I mean, give me a break. You got about the discernment of a slug.”

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Related links:

(Link): Post with numerous examples of links to news stories about Christian married men who raped people, abused their wives, were drug addicts, etc

(Link): On Christians Marrying Non Christians -and- Unrealistic, Too Rigid Spouse Selection Lists by Christians

(Link):  Prayer and The 700 Club  – Some Observations and Suggestions

(Link):  Women: Stop Asking Pat Robertson For Romantic Relationship Advice – Whether You Are Divorced or Single  – Pat Robertson Replies to Letter from Four Time Divorced Woman Who Wants to Know If God Will Send Her a Non-Abusive Husband

(Link):  Christian TV Show Pat Robertson Says Wives Who Want Emotional Support from a Husband Are Immature and Should Not Expect Emotional Support

(Link): Forget About Being ‘Equally Yoked’ – Article: ‘My Abusive ‘Christian’ Marriage’

(Link): Gender Complementarian Advice to Single Women Who Desire Marriage Will Keep Them Single Forever / Re: Choosing A Spiritual Leader

(Link): Married Female Christian Blogger Whose Mate Hunting Criteria is Guaranteed to Keep Marriage Minded Single Christian Men Single Perpetually

(Link): Being Equally Yoked: Christian Columnist Dan Delzell Striving to Keep Christian Singles Single Forever

(Link): Males and Females Raped at Christian College, College Doesn’t Care – Equally Yoked is a Joke

(Link): Pastor charged in wife’s murder was headed to Europe to marry boyfriend, prosecutor says – Single Christian Ladies: Kick that Be Equally Yoked Teaching to the Curb!

(Link): Another Example of Why the Equally Yoked Teaching is A Joke for Single Christian Women : Baptist Preacher Arrested for Allegedly Fire Bombing Ex Girlfriend’s House While She Was In It

(Link): Obnoxious and Sexist Preacher Mark Driscoll Wants Christian Singles to Stay Single Indefinitely – And Even Though Unwanted, Prolonged Singleness has Been a Huge Issue For Christian Singles for A Couple Decades Now – Driscoll: ‘Christians should not marry pro choicers’

Married Preacher (Davis) Found Guilty of Exposing Women to HIV

Preacher Found Guilty of Exposing Women to HIV

This is another example of…

1. Married professing Christians are not more godly, ethical, or mature than single people

2. “Be not yoked to an unbeliever” is a joke to single Christian women who want to marry

3. Married Christian sex is not “mindblowing” – as Christians often claim it is

This preacher was married. One of the women he infected with HIV had prior to their affair been celibate for fifteen years, according to the news articles I have read. Another article says that Davis has a 15 year old son: parenthood does not make a person more godly or mature, as Christians often claim.

(Link): Atlanta minister gets 20 years for not disclosing HIV before sex

      Updated: Feb 21, 2014 4:42 PM CST

    By Tony McNary

  • After Davis’ 15-year-old son and two other men asked the judge to go easy on him, Davis took the stand and apologized.

(Link): Family Weeps as Adulterous Former Pastor Craig Lamar Davis Found Guilty of Exposing Women to HIV

      BY LEONARDO BLAIR , CP REPORTER

    January 23, 2014|5:03 pm

  • The family of former pastor Craig Lamar Davis, 43, of Full Gospel Baptist Church in Atlanta, Ga., wept in court Tuesday as a jury found him guilty of two counts of reckless conduct for failing to tell two women he had affairs with while he was married that he is HIV positive.
  • According to CBS Atlanta, the now divorced Davis admitted to jurors on the witness stand during his four-day trial that doctors had diagnosed him with the AIDS virus in 2005.
  • As the verdict was being read by the jury, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution said Davis sat motionless and was seen comforting weeping family members shortly before he was taken into custody.
  • Davis could be imprisoned for up-to 20 years for each count of reckless conduct. His sentencing is scheduled for 10 a.m. on Feb. 21.
  • One of his ex-lovers and victim Ronita McAfee, who initiated the case against him, said, “I am pleased with the verdict today. It has been my hope and prayer that justice would be served and the reckless behavior of Mr. Davis would be exposed.”
  • … Davis was arrested in July 2012. McAfee reportedly met him on Facebook and the two became lovers. She confronted Davis about his HIV status after one of his former lovers contacted her and told her the then pastor had given her HIV. McAfee, who says she has since repeatedly tested negative for the virus, made it her mission to expose Davis’ reckless behavior after that.
  • He reportedly infected another woman in church leadership with the HIV virus who had been celibate for 15 years, according to the Today News Gazette.
  • “The swiftness at which the verdict was delivered demonstrated Clayton County jurors are going to protect their community,” said Clayton County prosecutor Kathryn Powers after the verdict. “They are not going to stand for someone infecting recklessly with such a deadly disease.”

(Link): Atlanta man [who is a preacher] to be sentenced in HIV case

Excerpts:

      By Kathy Jefcoats

    February 20, 2014

  • The first defendant convicted in Clayton County of reckless conduct by an HIV-infected person will be sentenced today in Superior Court.
  • ….He faces similar charges involving a second woman in Fulton County who has been diagnosed as HIV-positive.

(Link): Pastor Craig Davis Sentenced To 10 Years For Knowingly Exposing Women In Congregation To HIV

Excerpts:

      Feb 22, 2014

    By NewsOne Staff

  • …. As previously reported by NewsOne, Davis was found guilty in January of two counts of reckless HIV.
  • Davis, who was married at the time that the allegations came to light, initially denied both his HIV status and cheating on his wife.
  • In a last-ditch plea for leniency during Friday’s sentencing hearing, the formerly “unrepentant” pastor said that his actions were “wrong.”

(Link): HIV Positive Pastor Sentenced To 10 Years In Prison For Knowingly Exposing the virus

    Former pastor of Full Gospel Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia, Minister Craig Lamar Davis has been sentenced to 10 years in prison,after being convicted just one month ago of knowingly exposing female congregates to the HIV virus. He learned he was HIV positive back in 2005, was charged with two counts of reckless HIV.

  • Lamar Davis was accused and charged with carrying on 2 extramarital affairs while knowingly exposing them to the HIV virus.
  • One of his accusers, who allegedly remained celibate for 15 years prior to sleeping with the minister, tested positive for the deadly virus, while his second accuser, Ronita McAfee, tested negative. Davis, however, denies ever sleeping with McAfee.

(Link): Man gets 10 years in Clayton reckless HIV case

      By Tammy Joyner

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

  • A Clayton County judge sentenced a Stone Mountain man to 10 years in prison for knowingly exposing a woman to HIV.
    The sentence imposed by Superior Court Judge Geronda Carter was half of the maximum time Craig Lamar Davis could have faced on the two counts of reckless HIV. A Clayton jury found Davis guilty of the two counts on Jan. 21.

(Link): Former pastor sentenced to 10 years in HIV sex case

This is similar to another post I did a few months ago, this one – it discusses another HIV pastor, named Carr, who had affairs with women and infected them:

(Link): Beware of HIV / AIDS Infected Christian Male Preachers On Dating Sites
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Related posts this blog:

(Link): Marriage Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread – thread contains many links to news stories of married Christian people who were caught in sin, arrested, etc)

(Link):  Alabama Preacher Admits to having AIDS, Sleeping with Church Members

(Link): Parenthood Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread)

(Link): Christian Preacher Admits He Won’t Preach About Sexuality and Against Sexual Sin For Fear It May Offend Sexual Sinners

(Link): “Born Again Virgins” – Christian concept / term that mocks literal, actual virginity

(Link): Former N.Y. pastor convicted of raping 2 teen girls

(Link): Another Example of Why the Equally Yoked Teaching is A Joke for Single Christian Women : Baptist Preacher Arrested for Allegedly Fire Bombing Ex Girlfriend’s House While She Was In It

(Link): Christians and Cheap Grace Concerning Sexual Sin

(Link): Christian Response FAIL to Sexual Sin – Easy Forgivism

(Link): Being Equally Yoked: Christian Columnist Dan Delzell Striving to Keep Christian Singles Single Forever

(Link): Permissiveness, Cheap Grace, and Easy Forgivism Run Amok in Christianity – Dallas Preacher Todd Wagner Says Christians Can Use Heroin (parallel to topic of sex, celibacy) / Why some Christians turn agnostic

(Link): Christians Are Following Secular Trends in Premarital Sex, Cohabitation Outside of Marriage, Says Dating Site Survey (survey/article)

(Link): Church allows nude worship because ‘Jesus was crucified naked’

(Link): Christian Single Women: Another Example of Why You Should Abandon the “Be Equally Yoked” Teaching: 21-Y-O Christianity Student, Children’s Minister Charged With Murdering Fiancée He Was to Wed in August; Made It Look Like Suicide

(Link): A Critique of – 10 Men Christian Women Should Never Marry by J. Lee Grady / And on Christians Marrying Non Christians -and- Unrealistic, Too Rigid Spouse Selection Lists by Christians

(Link): Gender Complementarian Advice to Single Women Who Desire Marriage Will Keep Them Single Forever / Re: Choosing A Spiritual Leader

(Link): Pastor charged in wife’s murder was headed to Europe to marry boyfriend, prosecutor says – Single Xtian Ladies: Kick that Be Equally Yoked Teaching to the Curb! Also: Marriage and Parenthood do not make people more godly or mature or loving or ethical

(Link): Wife of Preacher Shoots, Kills Him, Recounts Years of Physical and Sexual Abuse – So Much for the Equally Yoked Teaching and the Notion that Christian married sex is Mind Blowing

Marriage Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread) Confronting Refuting Correcting Rebutting Christian Propaganda Arguments Stereotypes About Marriage Married Matrimony

Marriage Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread)

The following are links to many (but not all) posts on this blog about news reports about sins and crimes committed by MARRIED people.

Not only do these news reports dispell the Christian myth that married people are more godly, mature, responsible, or sexually pure than singles, but…

These links also demonstrate that married sex is not as great Christians say it is, which they say to entice kids into staying virgins until marriage.

If married sex were as wonderful as Christians claim, we would not see all these reports of married Christian men (or women) using porn, having affairs, or hiring prostitutes.

Some of these married people featured in the news reports below might also be PARENTS and CHRISTIAN.

—— LIST OF CRIMES / SINS COMMITTED BY MARRIED PEOPLE ——-

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MARRIED WOMEN, sins and crimes of (ie, specifically about married women)

List of Married MEN who have been caught in sin or crime is listed farther below

(Link): New Study Released: Cheaters: More American Married Women Admit to Adultery (links)

Contains links to information about why married women commit adultery, survey info, etc:

(Link): Married Women Engage in Sexual Sin – and most men in denial particularly Christian conservatives

Man writes for advice, his wife had affairs:

(Link): More Schadenfreude – Glad Not To Be Married Series

(Link): Glad I’m Not Married – Woman Writes For Advice: ‘Help! My Husband Caught Me Cheating and Now Wants an Open Marriage.’

(Link): Wife of Kinda Famous TV Preacher Guy Committed Multiple Affairs – He tells congregation at church service

(Link): Married Woman Has Affair With Married Man While Her Own Husband Deals With Cancer Stricken Parents

(Link): Cheating Married Christian Women and Lessons I Take Away – and Being a Virgin Does Not Guarantee God will Send You a Spouse

(Link): Beware of HIV / AIDS Infected Christian Male Preachers On Dating Sites – he cheated with a Christian Married Woman

(Link): The Chaste Ways of Female Politicians – but some have extra marital affairs (Article)

(Link): Woman Stabs Husband with Ceramic Squirrel For Not Buying Beer (another time I’m glad I’ve never married)

(Link): Married Woman Carries on Extra Marital Affair for Fifteen Years – (Married Couples – Not Singles – More Prone to Sexual Sin)

(Link): Registered nurse, 65, accused of attempted murder ‘for injecting FECES into husband’s IV after his heart surgery’

Continue reading “Marriage Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread) Confronting Refuting Correcting Rebutting Christian Propaganda Arguments Stereotypes About Marriage Married Matrimony”

Permissiveness, Cheap Grace, and Easy Forgivism Run Amok in Christianity – Dallas Preacher Todd Wagner Says Christians Can Use Heroin (parallel to topic of sex, celibacy) / Why some Christians turn agnostic

Permissiveness, Cheap Grace, and Easy Forgivism Run Amok in Christianity – Dallas Preacher Todd Wagner Says Christians Can Use Heroin / Why some Christians turn agnostic

Christian radio host Janet Mefferd recently discussed a preacher of a Dallas mega-church named Todd Wagner who said it’s okay for Christians to use heroin, or he pretty much said so.

Wagner was answering in response to a question from a viewer who wanted to know if it’s okay for Christians to drink alcohol.

You can listen to that Mefferd show here:
(Link): Janet Mefferd Show-11/20/2013

Before I get to the specific Wagner story:

Mefferd mentions a story about a preacher being arrested for drug dealing. This story:
(Link): Former Pastor Arrested In Record-Breaking Ky. Pill Bust

    Reported by Kallie Cart
    Reported: Nov. 15, 2013 12:10 PM EST

    A former pastor has been arrested in a major drug trafficking bust in Kentucky.

    Members of the fade drug task force in Kentucky said Scott Gilliam, the pastor of Perry’s Branch Holiness Tabernacle in Olive Hill, was using his former church as part of a major drug enterprise.

Mefferd also mentions this story:
(Link): Local (Florida) pastor arrested for drugs

Mefferd also mentioned this next story. This preacher thinks selling drugs is okay, as long as you also do charity work in your spare time, and hand out free drug samples to junkies so they will consider converting to Christianity:

(Link): Arizona pastor busted for dealing heroin and meth did it for ‘spiritual purposes’

    -Pastor Mark Derksen told police his drugs brought users ‘closer to God’
    -Derksen often gave free samples to convert new believers

Back to the “heroin is just peachy” preacher, Wagner.

Mefferd has audio clips of the guy, Wagner, (Link): on her site mentioning that heroin use is just peachy.

Wagner’s church also has a video channel on You Tube that you can check out here:
(Link): Watermark Church channel

After a glance over their You Tube channel, I am not seeing any video about the alcohol and heroin comments that Mefferd references.

Mefferd said she got her audio clips from a Wagner podcast.

Wagner’s podcast can be accessed here:
(Link): Wagner Podcast (on i Tunes)
(Link): Is it Wrong for Christians to Drink Alcohol?? – by Wagner (on podbay)

You can also read Wagner’s blog about the alcohol question, but the response about alcohol apparently was taken from “got questions.com” site and does not appear to contain the heroin remark:

(Link): Can a Christian Drink Alcohol? – Words from Wags

Here I thought “Christian Pundit” (name of my blog) was pretty lame or dull, but “Words from Wags” has me beat on the lame-o-meter.

Here are some excerpts from Can a Christian Drink Alcohol? – Words from Wags, which seems to be quoting a site called “got questions”:

    [quoting Got Questions]

    … However, Scripture does not necessarily forbid a Christian from drinking beer, wine, or any other drink containing alcohol.

    … What God commands Christians regarding alcohol is to avoid drunkenness (Ephesians 5:18).

    The Bible condemns drunkenness and its effects (Proverbs 23:29-35).

    Christians are also commanded to not allow their bodies to be “mastered” by anything (1 Corinthians 6:12; 2 Peter 2:19). Drinking alcohol in excess is undeniably addictive.

    Scripture also forbids a Christian from doing anything that might offend other Christians or encourage them to sin against their conscience (1 Corinthians 8:9-13).

    In light of these principles, it would be extremely difficult for any Christian to say he is drinking alcohol in excess to the glory of God (1 Corinthians 10:31).

More excerpts from Can a Christian Drink Alcohol? – Words from Wags, and these appear to be written by Wagner himself or another staffer:

    Am I/Will I be mastered by this activity. Specifically, is this now, or could this become, a coping strategy or idol or addiction that takes the place of God in my life? (1 Corinthians 6:12)

    Is it profitable/beneficial (1 Corinthians 6:12)?

    Will it cause the/my ministry to be discredited in any way? (2 Corinthians 6:1-3)

    Could it cause other believers to stumble/be confused if they saw me engaging in this activity (1 Corinthians 8:9-13)?

    Does it help me to make disciples/advance the Gospel (Matthew 28:19-20)?

    Am I living under a yoke of legalism that doesn’t honor the Gospel? Am I limiting my freedom in Christ for any reason other than my love for Him or my concern for others (Galatians 5:1)?

I don’t see any mention of heroin in skimming that page over, but Wagner does mention heroin in the audio clip provided by Mefferd at the link at the top of this page.

You’ll notice in the responses above that a lot of those arguments could apply to sexual morality, too.

Regarding these quotes:

    Christians are also commanded to not allow their bodies to be “mastered” by anything (1 Corinthians 6:12; 2 Peter 2:19).

    Am I/Will I be mastered by this activity. Specifically, is this now, or could this become, a coping strategy or idol or addiction that takes the place of God in my life? (1 Corinthians 6:12)

For example, I have been saying all along that every human being, but Christians especially, have self-control over sex: they do not have to give in to a sexual urge.

The Bible never says that chastity or celibacy are only “gifted to a few by God.”

The Bible actually makes sexual purity a commandment for all Christians, yet most Christians today act as though celibacy, singleness, and virginity, are the perview of only a tiny minority of believers, and at that, ones who God chose in eternity past to be single and chaste.

The Bible never says God calls, or gifts, or chooses anyone to be single; that is a matter God leaves up to the individual to decide for him or herself.

A few negative results of teaching the opposite belief in these areas is we have preachers, Christian book authors, and bloggers who teach and repeat erroneous notions such as…

    1. marry early because no person is capable of sexually abstaining past one’s early or mid 20s;

    2. men, even Christian males, are sex-obsessed, dangerous raping sex fiends, so women should never be left alone with men (this hampers women being able to form platonic friendships, as well as getting married);

    3. the Christian un-married are barred from working as teachers, leaders, and preachers and other positions of responsibility or authority within Christian circles on the assumption they cannot control their sexual urges and will make passes at any persons under their charge;

    4. gender stereotyping, such as:
    only men want sex and only men are visually stimulated;
    women are emotionally led only in relationships and should be pretty and thin all the time, to appeal to the visually oriented males (this leads to allowing men to feel they can be sloppy- looking, and some females develop eating disorders, poor self esteem, etc)

The negative impacts of Christians teaching and supporting the view that “believers are gifted by God with celibacy / singlehood, and only some are called/gifted in this way” is one reason I encourage all singles to stop endorsing it. If you are an unmarried person using that rhetoric, you are causing more harm to your side.

While the Bible makes clear that God respects singleness and celibacy (and married Christians need to be reminded of this), it does not say God “gifts it” to individuals, that God chooses who will be single.

I know on this blog, I ordinarily discuss Christian views on marriage, dating, sex, and so on, but these comments about this Dallas preacher who talks about heroin are related, if you stop and think about it.

I am not a supporter of legalism. I want to make that clear.

On the other hand, I’m not a fan of this permissiveness and easy-forgivism, anything goes flavor of Christianity, I am seeing from preachers and Christians today.
(please click the ‘read more’ link below to read the rest of this post.)

Continue reading “Permissiveness, Cheap Grace, and Easy Forgivism Run Amok in Christianity – Dallas Preacher Todd Wagner Says Christians Can Use Heroin (parallel to topic of sex, celibacy) / Why some Christians turn agnostic”

Focus on the Family Members Practice Infidelity or Homosexuality and Get Divorced and Remarry – links to exposes

Focus on the Family Members Practice Infidelity or Homosexuality and Get Divorced and Remarry – links to exposes

(Some of these stories date from the year 2000.)

Edit. April 2016. Preface and Clarification.

  • I am right wing myself and do not hate “the family,” nor am I opposed to traditional values or marriage.
  • Since I have started this blog, I have collected newer examples, ones that date up to March and April 2016, of other pro-family, Christian, or right wing persons or groups that have been caught in extra-marital affairs, or sexually abusing children – including, but not limited to, the Duggar family, whose son Josh was in the media for having sexually molested his sisters and a babysitter.
  • Here’s one example:
  • (Link): Pro Family Values Republican Hastert in Trouble Over Sexually Abusing Children (story date: April 2016) – I even criticize certain liberal views about sexuality in the midst of criticizing right wingers in that post.
  • You can look further examples up on my blog using the “search” box on the right hand side of the page to find newer examples; some of them might be linked to at the bottom of this post under “Related Posts”.
  • I was told in a Tweet by a reader that sharing “older” stories (some of the news items in this post date from the year 2,000) is not “helpful”.
  • I am absolutely dumbfounded by this. This is a person who usually seems to understand how the extreme focus on stereotypical, pro-family values that Christian gender complementarians champion are very alienating to women who never marry, who cannot have children, or who are divorced.
  • One reason of several I feature such stories on my blog – news stories of pro-family Christians who are caught having affairs and so on – is to show how hypocritical these groups are – the same group who marginalize anyone who is not married by the time they are 25 years old with three children.
  • These pro-family Christians make more out of the “nuclear family” than the God of the Bible ever did, which harms women who never marry, women who divorce, women who are infertile – women who do not or cannot meet the “gender complementarian” or “traditional family values” rules and roles some Christians heavily promote.
  • Understand I’ve had traditional values my entire life, and I am still pretty right wing on most subjects. But I’m not going to excuse the hypocrisy of other right wingers on any of this.
  • The age of these stories is irrelevant to a degree.
  • It doesn’t matter if some of the pro-family values men (or women) mentioned in this blog post were caught in adultery last week, ten years ago, or 50 years ago.
  • If anything, it shows that these pro-family types have been full of bunk consistently for a long time, all the more reason to question their views on some issues.
  • Christians who promote “Family” and “Family Values” often do so at the expense of women (and men) who cannot or do not meet such standards, and it’s been an on-going pattern for decades now, so it’s actually helpful to see older material that reveals this (see also (Link): Americans Are Nostalgic for a Family Life That Never Existed by S. Coontz) .
  • A lot of the organizations promoting “Family Values” revere the 1950s, American decade. They are stuck in the past. So there again, I don’t think the age of the articles below are entirely pertinent, or is a mark against what I’m trying to demonstrate: Christians usually make an idol out of marriage and family, which excludes single adults, the divorced, widows, and the infertile.

What hypocrites. And they continue to aid in the marginalization of adult singles and adult childfree, and they keep on worshipping parenthood and the nuclear family.

By the way, if Christian groups spent more time doing what the Bible says they are to do – such as, policing their own rather than those outside the church ((Link): 1 Corinthians 5:12), AND spent their time pointing outsiders to Jesus (who was never, ever a hypocrite), instead of complaining and griping about homosexuality, abortion, and feminism, and other social issues, then when one of their own is caught in an extra-martial affair, or whatever other kind of sin, there would not be as much damage done to Christianity.

You can also see in posts such as this, which contain numerous examples of married Christian men screwing teen girls or having affairs with grown women, that they run around claiming to support sexual purity but in practice actually do not.

This also goes to show, once more, that being married, contrary to what most Christians believe, does not make a person more ethical, sexually pure, or responsible than being un-married.

Christian fable: if you stay a virgin until you marry, the sex will be great. -If that is true, we would not see so many middle aged married Christian men screwing their 25 year old secretaries or visiting prostitutes, now would we?

This link is from Democratic Underground, a site whose members I am usually not in agreement with (I am right wing):

(Link): “Focus on the Family,” glass houses, a Philanderer and an “Ex-Gay” Gay – Democratic Underground

  • Focus on Family shows ‘repentance’
  • Trout, who has been married for 31 years, declined to discuss details of the extramarital relationship, but said that the woman was not a Focus on the Family employee and that the relationship was over.
  • The ministry has declined to discuss the factors behind Trout’s resignation, citing legal and privacy concerns.
  • Trout, 53, is best known as the on-air partner of the founder and leader of the ministry, James Dobson. Dobson is a key figure in the conservative Christian movement and earlier this year criticized George W. Bush, claiming the Republican presidential candidate was sacrificing conservative values to appeal to a broader base.
  • Mike Trout abruptly quit last week. In an interview Monday with The Gazette, he admitted to an “inappropriate relationship with a woman other than his wife and had no choice but to resign from a ministry that stresses the sanctity of marriage.”
  • COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — A top official and radio announcer for Focus on the Family said he has resigned from the conservative Christian group because he had an extramarital affair.

Focus on the Family official resigns, admits extramarital affair

    • October 17, 2000
      Web posted at: 4:05 PM EDT (2005 GMT)

A Philanderer:

  • Associated Press
  • COLORADO SPRINGS — Focus on the Family’s 1,350 employees prayed, joined hands and circled the ministry’s offices to show “corporate repentance and confession” after recent embarrassing revelations about two of its leaders.
  • “Satan has thrown just about everything in his arsenal at us in the last several weeks as you know,” Focus on the Family President James Dobson told the staff in a recorded message Friday. “I am certain those who hate our cause are doing everything they can to undermine and to discredit it.”
  • The $116 million Colorado Springs Christian ministry is going through tough times. Mike Trout, a senior vice president and well-known radio show co-host, resigned Oct. 11 after admitting to an extramarital relationship.
  • A Focus division chief, John Paulk, was allowed to keep his job after visiting a gay bar in September and lying about it. Paulk, an avowed former homosexual, has been pulled from the speaker list of Saturday’s “Love Won Out” conference, which teaches that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice that can be overcome through prayer and therapy.
  • As a result of the Trout and Paulk incidents, the ministry has become the target of jokes on The Tonight Show With Jay Leno and Politically Incorrect.

[original story source]:
http://www.rockypreps.com/news/1105focu5.shtml

(Link): Here We Go Again

    Issue: “Here we go again,” Nov. 11, 2000

  • Posted Nov. 11, 2000, 12:00 a.m. by Lynn Vincent
  • The recent revelation of Focus on the Family radio host Mike Trout’s marital infidelity has pundits pelting conservatives-and Christianity-again. Have two decades of clay-footed “celebrity conservatives” shattered the credibility of the “family values” movement? And can tough-minded actions restore some of it?
  • Bill Maher, talk-television’s answer to Nero, recently fed another Christian to his panelist-lions.
  • On Oct. 24, an aging Boy George, minor starlet Karen Duffy, and others batted the Mike Trout story around the studio-coliseum on Mr. Maher’s late-night show Politically Incorrect. Mr. Trout, longtime co-host of Focus on the Family’s flagship radio broadcast, last month resigned from the Colorado Springs-based ministry.
  • A few days later he admitted to an “inappropriate relationship” with a woman not his wife.
  • “How come so many of these people who are supposedly the ‘family people’ get caught?” Mr. Maher carped as a knowing titter rippled through the studio audience. “I mean, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Henry Hyde, Strom Thurmond … they get caught. Why? Why?”
  • PromiseVision vice president Bill Horn, the panel’s token conservative that evening, gamely offered a defense: “Because people make mistakes and people are human … [Mike Trout] made a mistake and he was man enough to resign….”
  • Mr. Maher abruptly cut him off: “It’s because they’re ‘pervs’ to begin with and they try to cover it up by becoming Christians [and] Republicans. Those are 12-step programs for these people!”
  • Ugly, yes. But though he arrived at wrong conclusions, Mr. Maher was grappling in his own caustically comic way with a serious problem: the chain of hypocrisy among those who publicly preach family values, but privately poach in other people’s families.
  • The chain hamstrings innocent clergy, damages trusting laity, and, worst of all, tarnishes the image of Christ in the eyes of nonbelievers.
  • In a media-saturated culture that emphasizes sins among Christians and conservatives, incidents of saying one thing and doing another overwhelm for many Americans any good impressions that might be created.
  • …How big is the problem among church ministers? According to a national study of 4,000 active pastors over a 10-year period conducted by counselors at First Evangelical Free Church of Fullerton, Calif., and completed in 1998, one in five pastors admits to indulging in “sexually inappropriate” behavior with someone who was not his wife since the time he first became involved with some local ministry.
  • That period may span many decades and many definitions of “inappropriate,” but ministers such as Chuck Smith, senior pastor of Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa, Calif., say they have seen an increase in moral failure among Christians in public ministry. Mr. Smith’s own ministry exploded during the late 1960s Jesus movement, eventually spinning off 800 affiliated churches, dozens of parachurch groups, and numerous radio outreaches.
  • …Charles Ballard, president and founder of the Initiative for Responsible Fatherhood, remembers leading an abstinence workshop with a group of inner-city fathers who were struggling to walk a straight moral path: “Questions were raised in the group, which was mostly teenagers. The questions were along the lines of ‘How about this guy Swaggart? He has a wife, he has a family and here he’s out here [having sex with other women].'” Mr. Ballard concludes, “It’s the believer who preaches one thing and lives another that most hurts the cause of Christ.”
  • San Diego youth pastor and Bethel Seminary graduate Rich West, 29, says he labors under the yoke of an increasing public cynicism toward Christianity. “I think the culture has been inoculated by us and our moral failures,” he said. “I believe that people now expect that pastors and clergy will fall morally … it’s just so common that it’s expected.”

Though I totally disagree with this comment, that appeared in the above article:

    Part of that wall is built by prayer: “Lead me not into temptation” should be on the lips of every leader with admiring followers. Part should consist of basic precautions: the Billy Graham rule for leaders-don’t be behind closed, windowless doors with a member of the opposite sex-needs faithful following.

  • Part should be accountability procedures, preferably within a local church, where men report to each other the early stages of restlessness and thus corral it in time.

That excerpt above assumes that people are incapable of sexual self control, so married people avoid singles, and singles become isolated as a result. This is sometimes referred to as the Billy Graham Rule, which I have blogged about several times over on my blog, such as (Link): here and (Link): here – and many others (search for the term “Billy Graham Rule” on my blog to find more posts about it.)

(Link): Mike Trout Says Emotional Affair Forced His Resignation from Focus on the Family

    Ted Olsen [ posted 10/1/2000 12:00AM ]
  • Mike Trout says he resigned from focus because of extramarital relationship
  • Mike Trout, co-host of “Focus on the Family” with Dr. James Dobson for the last 15 years, says the reason he abruptly resigned from the organization was because of an “emotional” relationship with another married woman. “I’m greatly saddened,” Trout told The (Colorado Springs)Gazette. “I didn’t work at Focus on the Family for 19 years because of the paycheck or the benefits or the positive environment. I worked at Focus on the Family because I believed in what we were doing. I know that might sound strange, because I violated it.” The relationship, he says, is over, was “not a long-term thing,” and was not with another Focus employee. Trout told Dobson, and is now telling others, about the relationship and resigned immediately, he says, because “If I hadn’t shared the truth, it would have eventually come out.”

(Link): Subject: Tom Papania and Focus on the Family

Excerpts

    5) FYI – Ryan Dobson information – Dr. Dobson obviously has his own reason for not wanted to talk about Ryan’s divorce.
  • It is a very sensitive subject for the whole family. Again, the staff on the phones do not have any information about this, probably most don’t even know that he has been previously married.
  • You can write to Focus if you have a question and they will pass it on to the Correspondence department. I will save you the time and give you the answer. Ryan Dobson was divorced from Cezanne in 2001. Ryan was totally opposed to the dissolution of the marriage and there were no biblical grounds to justify it (No adultery involved.) Ryan has just recently remarried.
  • By the way, just because I work at Focus on the Family doesn’t mean that I agree with everything that goes on here (probably no employee agrees 100%). Nevertheless, I have a very high regard for Dr. Dobson and this ministry.
  • God Bless You
  • Andy
  • Hope this clears a few things up for you.
  • [reply]
  • If Ryan Dobson wants to be a public leader at a FAMILY ministry why is he allowed to keep issues like his marriage, divorce, and re-marriage a secret? Clearly, he has learned much from his father (about secrecy).
  • There is much more I could write. But I think this covers the main points. Please write again.
  • Sincerely,
    Brian Karjala
  • [concluding thoughts]
  • As for Mike Trout, former co-host of Jim Dobson’s radio program… he gives the introduction and closing remarks on the Focus on the Family “From Mafia To Ministry” Tom Papania tape originally broadcasted over radio stations in Dec. of ’96. Some years later Trout resigned from his VP position at Focus after he was lured and swallowed up by an extra-marital affair which he publicly confessed to.
  • Expect more scandals to come…

(Link): Testimony of Former Focus on the Family Employees and the Public

  • The Corruption of Focus on the Family
  • “What we’ve got here is a failure to communicate!” (Cool Hand Luke)
  • Update: In response to webpages like this one Focus on the Family has been forced to address the Ryan Dobson divorce:
  • “You’ll be interested to know that the Dobsons have addressed this situation openly in response to any inquiries that are made. That said, it might be helpful to explain that Ryan and his former wife, Cezanne, divorced in the summer of 2001. Obviously, we must not invade the young people’s privacy except to say that Ryan was completely opposed to the dissolution of the marriage and that the biblical grounds that have permitted him to remarry are consistent with the scriptural understanding of abandonment.”
  • Many people coming to this website think the Dobson divorce is the big story. It does highlight the secrecy of the Dobsons and raises questions about Ryan’s behavior but it’s actually a minor issue compared with the Tom Papania story.
  • (Some have speculated that Cezanne may be a black woman and wonder why there was never a public photo posted of her. Ryan has posted photos of his second wife, Laura.)
  • The bigger story is that Focus on the Family’s most popular selling radio broadcast in its history is fraudulent along with the subsequent ongoing cover-up.
  • Papania continues to exploit people and harass those who expose his fraud.
  • And if Focus on the Family is responsible for recruiting the lawyer now representing Papania in an attempt to silence me then we are dealing with a callous evil that the public needs to know about. (In the past Papania has stated in his newsletters that the lawyer, a Dobson supporter, sought him out to freely represent him for the purpose of trying to eliminate websites like this one.)

(Link): Focus on Family exec admits affair, resigns

  • This has a long list of sexual sins by Mike Trout, Jimmy Swaggert, and other conservative, hetero Christians who worship family, who were caught having affairs, using porn or prostitutes, etc, then mentions a long list of public Christian personalities who claimed to be against homosexuality but were themselves having homosexual affairs:

(Link): Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth (book excerpt on Google Books)

Another book excerpt on Google Books mentioning the sexual sins and affairs of married Christian men who publicly bray about the importance of “family values” and marriage (though I assume this book was published ten or more years ago, because today’s social conservatives have LOST the culture war):

(Link): The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America Are Winning the Culture War

(Link): Focus on the Family Official Resigned Over Affair

    Mike Trout, an on-air personality for the evangelical radio ministry, has admitted to an ‘inappropriate relationship’
  • Mike Trout abruptly quit last week. In an interview Monday with The Gazette, he admitted to an “inappropriate relationship with a woman other than his wife and had no choice but to resign from a ministry that stresses the sanctity of marriage.”
  • Trout, 53, is best known as the on-air partner of the founder and leader of the ministry, James Dobson. Dobson is a key figure in the conservative Christian movement and earlier this year criticized George W. Bush, claiming the Republican presidential candidate was sacrificing conservative values to appeal to a broader base.

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Related on this blog:

(Link): Family Values Republican Politician Hastert in Trouble for Sexual Assault of Kids / On Liberals and Not Having Sexual Standards

(Link):  Ashley Madison Site Hack Update / Family Values Activist Josh Duggar Had a Paid Ashley Madison Account

(Link):  News sites: Josh Duggar Joked About Molesting His Sisters, Has No Remorse for Extra-Marital Affairs (September 2015)

(Link):  Christian, Family Values Vlogger – Austin Null – Caught Sexting (story dates from January 2016)

(Link):  Family Values Republican Politician Hastert in Trouble for Sexual Assault of Kids / On Liberals and Not Having Sexual Standards

(Link): Another Christian Pro-Nuclear Family Marriage Idolator Married Father (Sam Rader) Caught By Ashley Madison Hack

(Link): Why Not Focus On How Churches Can Help Adult Singles?

(Link): Leader of Hyper Family Focused, Fertility Cult (Vision Forum Ministries) Steps Down After Admitting to Having an “Emotional Affair”

(Link):  ‘Decent guy’ Married youth pastor charged with sexually abusing 5-year-old girl at his home (March 2016) 

(Link): Conservative Christianity Stuck in 1950s Leave it To Beaver-ville

(Link): Focusing on the Family Causes Church Decline

(Link): The Bible Does Not Teach Christians to “Focus On The Family” – The Idolization of Family by American Christians (article)

(Link): Good Grief! Five Million Dollar Family Idoltary on Display: Focus on the Family Launches $5 Million Project Targeting Family Breakdown, Social Ills – Please, when you say you support marriage, be honest about what you REALLY mean

(Link): Christian Blogger About Divorce, Pastor Andrew Webb, Thinks All To Most Mid-Life Never – Married or Single – Again Adults Are Mal-Adjusted, Ugly Losers Who Have Too Much Baggage

(Link): Focus on Family spokesperson, Stanton, actually says [contrary to what the Bible teaches about church growth] the reason people should marry is for ‘church growth’

(Link): Focus on the Family having financial problems – aw, too bad (not!)

(Link): Focus on the Family advice columnist perpetuates stereotypes about single women

(Link): Janet Mefferd Concedes In One Radio Show that Christians “Lose Jesus” in all the “Family Values” Talk and Emphasis / Also FIC and Youth Worship

(Link): Republicans Ditch Family Values As Strategy (article)

(Link): Do You Rate Your Family Too High? (Christians Who Idolize the Family) (article)

(Link): Family Research Center (Christian group) thinks people (including the Nuclear Family) should be cut off food stamps

Self Professing Christian Married Guy of 21 Years and Father of Two Admits to Being a Pervy Unfaithful Rat Bastard Who Uses Cheating Sites to Hook Up With Greedy Vapid 20 Somethings

Self Professing Christian Married Guy of 21 Years and Father of Two Admits to Being a Pervy Unfaithful Rat Bastard Who Uses Cheating Sites to Hook Up With Greedy Vapid 20 Somethings

Recap on typical conservative Christian teachings regarding marriage, gender, dating, etc and so forth:

    1. if you wait until you get married to have sex, God will send you a spouse -and-

    2. that spouse will be a decent Christian person who won’t screw around on you
    and

    3. the marital sex will be great and frequent

    4. it is implied that because the Bible contains the line “be not yoked to a Non Christian” that a Christian woman should marry ONLY a self professing Christian man, because a Christian guy will treat her better, won’t abuse her, won’t cheat on her, etc

    5. It is assumed by Christians that married people have better sexual ethics than un-married people

    6. It is assumed by Christians that people who are parents are more godly, mature, and responsible than the childless or childfree

Here’s another example, farther below, showing all that to be big, fat lies.

Also: men who seek after women more than ten years their junior are perverted, and big loser-creeps. See: (Link): Creepy, wrong, immature and pathetic: older men chasing after much younger women

The ego on some men, too – this pervy, loser douche bag just assumes that the 20 year old girl he approached at the store (who he mentions in his letter) would have said “yes” to his date request.

Reality time for middle aged and senior men out there:

Let me tell you something, most women are GROSSED OUT by older men, unless those older men are ultra rich and the woman in question is greedy, or the older dude is movie star Johnny Depp.

The only reason this letter writing idiot got 20 somethings to date in the first place is that he was hitting them up on a sugar daddy site, which he admitted to using (such women are looking for MONEY).

The vast majority of normal 20- something women do NOT want to date older men, they do NOT have “older men” fantasies, etc.

I am in my 40s and DO NOT want to date or marry any guy age 50 or up. Once I get to 50 myself, I would be fine with a 50 something.

But I have never, ever been keen on dating anyone ten years my senior. Five years makes me nervous, forget about ten.

I get approached by dudes of all ages on dating sites, but the ones with white hair who are in their 60s and older make me want to puke, and they were contacting me when I was in my mid 30s and on dating sites.

(And my god, I do NOT look over mid 30ish, even now.) What makes these guys with jowls, wrinkles, and white hair think any woman in her 30s, 40s (or even 50s) would want to date them?

I disagree with Amy’s advice. If this selfish moron is going to be a serial cheater, he should divorce his wife.

Letter to advice columnist Ask Amy Octber 2013

    DEAR AMY:
    I have been happily married for 21 years. Communication is great, we rarely argue and we spend a lot of time together. We have two wonderful teen daughters.

    Unfortunately, I have a major problem. I am completely consumed by lust. I was faithful the first 15 years of marriage but for the past six years I have had intimate affairs with 23 (and counting) girls in their 20s. I hook up with them on “sugar daddy” Web sites.

    Thankfully this terrible action on my part has not caused any financial burden or STDs. I have considered seeing a sex therapist but I think my urges are too strong to fix. Recent example: I was shopping and came upon a hot 20-something. The second I saw her, my heart rate doubled and I had butterflies in my stomach. I started to approach her for a potential date but she walked away.

    Believe it or not, I am a Christian and a churchgoer. I have extreme remorse over my behavior but can’t stop it. Sometimes I think it would be best if I simply filed for divorce so I don’t continue hurting people.
    — Hopeless in the Suburbs

    DEAR HOPELESS:
    Divorcing your wife will not diminish the hurt you are causing — it doesn’t even touch the damage you are doing to yourself (and others).

    You sign your letter “Hopeless,” which illustrates the personal hell of an addiction that is consuming you.

    The description of your physical sensations and intention to approach a stranger in a store for sex puts you in the predator category.

    This compulsion is personally and spiritually degrading.

    It is also in direct conflict with your stated personal values.

    There is help for you, but you need to be honest with your wife, admit your powerlessness over this and seek professional help and treatment.

    The next time you are tempted to use the Internet to hunt for another sugar baby, I hope you will be brave enough to find help for yourself instead.

    The Society for the Advancement for Sexual Health offers information and links to articles, professionals and 12-step groups on its Web site: SASH.net.

Preachers Arrested For, or Accused of, Promoting Prostitution, Rape, Spreading HIV, Child Molesting etc – And Christian Single Women Should Only Consider Marrying So Called Christian Men Why?

Preachers Arrested For, or Accused of, Promoting Prostitution, Rape, Spreading HIV, etc – And Christian Single Gals Should Only Consider Marrying So Called Christians Why?

After seeing numerous stories over my life of “Christian” men who rape people, murder them, molest children, steal, and abuse drugs, quoting “be not yoked” no longer works on me.

Here are some more examples of Christian men raping people, killing people etc (some of these men are married and/or have children):

(Link): Shooter’s Wife Filed Rape Complaint Against Slain La. Preacher Days Before He Was Killed [VIDEO]

    Sep 30, 2013
    By NewsOne Staff

    The wife of Woodrow Karey, 53, (pictured left) filed a rape complaint against Pastor Ronald Harris, Sr., 53, (pictured right) on September 25, two days before her husband walked into Tabernacle of Praise Worship Center in Lake Charles, Louisiana and shot and killed him while he was preaching in front of the congregation, said Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso.

    …Though rumors are running rampant that Harris was involved in a relationship with more than one woman in the congregation, Sheriff Mnacuso says their focus is on text messages between Harris and Karey’s wife. While the texts are reportedly sexual in nature, it is unclear whether the sexual relationship was consensual or if assault occurred.

(Link): Former preacher charged with promoting prostitution

    Sept 19, 2013
    By Mike Savino Journal Inquirer

    EAST HARTFORD — Henry Price, a controversial former Hartford-area preacher with convictions for murder and promoting prostitution, was arrested Tuesday after two women told police he was their pimp.

    The women told police that Price, 62, of Ledyard, recruited them and others to work as prostitutes and that he created online profiles for them and gave them cellphones, according to an arrest report.
    Price was charged with two counts of promoting prostitution. He remains held in lieu of $500,000 bond following his arraignment Wednesday in Manchester Superior Court, and he is due back in court Oct. 17.

(Link): Former Grimsby youth pastor faces sexual assault charge

    Sep 12, 2013

    A former Grimsby youth pastor has been charged with sexual assault.

    Members of the Niagara police sexual assault unit arrested 31-year-old Andrew Riach at his home in Windsor on Tuesday following a five-month investigation.

    Police allege Riach sexually assaulted a young woman while he was head youth pastor at Lakemount Worship Centre in Grimsby from 2006 to 2013.

    Police say they are unable to release many details in anticipation of a publication ban.

    nvestigators would not say if the victim was a member of the Lakemount congregation. They also wouldn’t say how old she was at the time of the alleged attacks.

    “What I can say is that it (the assault) happened several times over a few years,” said Constable Derek Watson.

    The woman came forward with the allegation in May.

(Link): Trial date set for pastor charged with wife’s murder

    Posted: Sep 16, 2013
    By Melynda Sides By Clare Huddleston

    JEFFERSON COUNTY, AL (WBRC) –
    The trial date has been set for Terry Greer, the Gardendale pastor charged with killing his wife earlier this year.

    Greer is accused of shooting his wife Lisa and their 18-year-old daughter Suzanna in their home on January 10. Suzanna reportedly wrestled the gun away from her father and ran to a neighbor’s house for help.

    Police officers arrived to the Greer home to find the pastor in his bathroom, stabbing himself repeatedly with a kitchen knife. He was restrained and all three family members were taken to the hospital for treatment. Greer’s wife died of her injuries at the hospital and his daughter Suzanna survived.

(Link): HIV Pastor Spotted On Popular Black Dating Website

    Oct 9, 2013
    By Ruth Manuel-Logan

    Memphis minister Rodney Carr (pictured), who was arrested last year and charged with criminal exposure to HIV for knowingly infecting a woman, was recently spotted on a popular Black dating website, BlackPeopleMeet, looking to hook up with a potential mate, reports WREG Memphis.

    Carr, who reportedly tested positive in 2005 for HIV, allegedly infected a married woman whom he reportedly dated in 2010 and 2011; her identity has not been revealed.

    On a routine gynecological visit, the woman’s physician reportedly suggested an HIV test. When she reportedly received her results, she knew Carr had infected her. According to the woman, the 47-year-old preacher never told her he was HIV positive. The woman claims she trusted Carr, because he is a minister.

    On the dating website, Carr has two profiles: one under his name and another where he is listed as “Minterwonderful.” When the unnamed victim was told about Carr’s online profiles, she told WREG, “He’s not wonderful. He’s a creep. Going around doing what he’s doing. He’s not wonderful at all.”

(Link): Former Winlock youth pastor charged with sexually assaulting boy

    Sept 2013

    A former Winlock youth pastor was charged with four counts of second-degree child rape Wednesday afternoon in Lewis County Superior Court.

    Michael Duwayne Whitson worked as the youth pastor for the Winlock Assembly of God and the alleged victim was in the church’s youth group, court documents state.

    The current pastor of the church, the Rev. John Evantrease, said the news was a shock when he learned of it Thursday morning after a story appeared in The (Centralia) Chronicle.

    Evantrease, who has been with the church six years, said he doesn’t know Whitson or the victim and was previously unaware of the alleged crime.

    … The charges stem from an alleged sexual relationship Whitson began in 2002 with a Winlock boy who was 12 years old at the time, according to court documents. Whitson, 51, now of Vancouver, was likely 39 or 40 at the time.

    … The boy told deputies Whitson initiated a sexual relationship, trying to convince him he was gay and that the two were “in love,” court documents state.

(Link): Fayetteville pastor charged with taking indecent liberties with a child

    Sep 28, 2013

    The pastor of a Fayetteville church was charged Thursday with taking indecent liberties with a child, according to an arrest warrant.

    Kong Sok Namkung, 53, the pastor of St. Matthews United Methodist Church at 202 Hope Mills Road, is accused of inappropriately touching a girl whose age is between 11 and 14, said Lt. Todd Joyce, a Fayetteville police spokesman. Police allege the crime occurred at the church in June, Joyce said.

(Link): Ex-ROC pastor indicted on child sexual assault charges

    By Chris Thomas

    RICHMOND, VA (WWBT) -The former pastor of the Richmond Outreach Center has been indicted on two counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child under 14-years-old.

    He was also indicted on two counts of indecency with a child.

    According to the District Attorney of Tarrant County, Texas, 43-year-old Geronimo Aguilar was charged with sexual assault of a minor after an incident in 1996.

    We reached out to the last known attorney for the ROC, Stephen Lewis, for comment on the indictment.

(Link): Memphis Minister Charged With Spreading HIV

    September 26, 2013, by Stephanie Scurlock
    updated on: 12:23pm, October 1, 2013

    A Memphis minister is accused of spreading more than the gospel.
    One woman is accusing him of infecting her with HIV, and she doesn’t believe she’s the only victim.

    “The reason I’m going to court and trying to get other women to come forward with this is because they need to know,” said the victim.
    We agreed to conceal the woman’s identity. You’ll only see her shadow.

    What she wants you to do is hear her voice.
    It is her warning to other women.

    “I went to the doctor for a check up and they asked if you want to be HIV tested and I said sure why not. 2010, that’s when I found out,” she said.

    She found out she was HIV positive and is fighting to bring the man she believes knowingly infected her to justice.
    She claims a Memphis preacher, Minister Rodney Carr, is spreading the virus that leads to AIDS.
    He’s now charged with Criminal Exposure to HIV.

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Related posts this blog:

(Link): Pro Ball Player Convicted for Kid Diddling Three Kids Claims to be an Outstanding Christian (and he’s married with a kid of his own) – again, why should Christian single gals limit themselves to only marrying Christian men? The Whole “Being Yoked Equally” thing is irrelevant and unduly limiting for singles

(Link): Being Equally Yoked: Christian Columnist Dan Delzell Striving to Keep Christian Singles Single Forever

(Link): Forget About Being ‘Equally Yoked’ – Article: ‘My Abusive ‘Christian’ Marriage’

(Link): Why I Now Reject “Be Equally Yoked” – and on Becoming More Agnostic
-(this page also contains many links to news stories with examples of Christian married men who were arrested for rape, murder, or other crimes, and articles about high rates of porno use among Christian men)
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On Christianity Today:
(Link): Is Interfaith Marriage Always Wrong, Given that the Bible Teaches Us Not to Be ‘Unequally Yoked’?

Married Christian Rock Singer in Legal Trouble for Hiring Hit Man To Kill His Wife – he also had drug addiction

Married Christian Rock Singer in Legal Trouble for Hiring Hit Man To Kill His Wife

★ (The Feb 2014 update is towards the end of this post) ★

Feb 2014: Not only did the guy hire a hit man to kill his wife, but according to Sky News,

    She [his wife] also later learned he was having an affair

So much for the Christian fable that marriage makes a person immune from sexual temptation!
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Original post:

One source says he used to claim to be a Christian, but eleven months ago shared with his fans online that he is having doubts about the Christian faith.

Hey, me too! But I don’t go around hiring hit men to whack people.

One news page says he and his wife have three children together (adopted). So fatherhood, contrary to conservative Christian mythology, does not make a man a better person than a childless or childfree man.

So, here is another example of a married Christian guy, who is also a father, is being a no good rat. Often, conservative Christians assume or teach that un-married (Christian) adults are not as responsible and ethical as their married counterparts.

I am never-married, but, I’ve never been a drug addict, and I’ve never murdered anyone, nor have I ever hired a hit man to get someone bumped off. But supposedly by mere fact I am single, many Christians would assume I’m not as godly or kind-hearted as married people.

(Link): Metal Singer to Be Tried in Murder-for-Hire Case

(Link): Steroids Found in Christian Metal Singer Tim Lambesis’ Home: Detective

    The singer of the Grammy-nominated Christian metal band “As I Lay Dying” was arrested on May 7 in Oceanside

    San Diego officials investigating an alleged murder-for-hire plot involving Christian metal singer Tim Lambesis found dozens of vials of what appeared to be steroids and thousands of dollars in cash in the musician’s bedroom, a detective testified Monday.

    Homicide investigators found a lock box in Lambesis’ Carlsbad home containing “a lot of different quantities” of male enhancement-type drugs, male libido-type drugs and estrogen blocking drugs, Det. John Buckley with the San Diego County Sheriff’s Department testified.
    There were approximately 30 to 40 vials along with different types of pill packages with more than $12,000 in cash, the detective said.

    The steroids were found after the singer of the Grammy-nominated Christian metal band “As I Lay Dying” was arrested on charges of solicitation of another to commit murder and conspiracy to commit a crime on May 7.

    Prosecutors allege that Lambesis approached a trainer from his gym on Apr. 23 and asked if the person knew anyone who could kill his wife, Meggan Lambesis of Del Mar.

    “He wanted to know if maybe I could find someone to do it for him,” personal trainer Brett Kimball testified in court Monday.

(Link): As I Lay Dying’s Tim Lambesis to stand trial on ‘solicitation for murder’ charges

    Metalcore frontman faces maximum nine years in prison after sting operation exposes ‘plot to kill ex-wife’

    Sean Michaels
    theguardian.com, Tuesday 17 September 2013 10.08 EDT

    The frontman of Christian metalcore band As I Lay Dying will stand trial on the charge of trying to hire an assassin to kill his ex-wife. Timothy Lambesis allegedly told an undercover policeman he wanted Meggan Lambesis “gone”, agreeing to pay $20,000 (£12,500).

    Timothy was arrested in May, following a meeting in a bookshop with a man calling himself “Red”. “Just to clarify, just so you know, I do want her dead,” Lambesis reportedly said. He is said to have then handed Red a manila envelope with Meggan’s name and photo, the security code for her flat, a description of her vehicle and three proposed dates for the slaying. He also included an initial $1,000 deposit.

    Unfortunately for Lambesis, Red is better known as county sheriff’s officer Howard Bradley. The sting was arranged after authorities had been alerted to the musician’s alleged plot by a trainer at his gym, whom Lambesis had asked for help.

    … Lambesis founded As I Lay Dying in 2000, fronting the band through all of its six albums. Their last three LPs reached the Billboard top 15, and the group played the UK’s Download festival in 2005, 2007, 2010 and 2012.

    Prosecutors claim Lambesis provided the undercover agent with an envelope containing $1,000 cash for expenses, his wife’s address and gate codes, pictures of her and specific dates when he would have the children and thus, an alibi.

    Deputy Howard Bradley described the meeting in which Lambesis handed him a manila envelope containing 10 $100 bills during a preliminary hearing Monday in San Diego Superior Court in Vista.

    “He told me he wanted his wife gone,” Bradley testified.

    He went on to explain how Lambesis immediately agreed to the $20,000 fee and said he had already withdrawn the money from his bank account.

    Lambesis explained he wanted his wife dead because she was going to get up to 60-percent of his income and would not allow their children – ages 4, 8, and 10 – to go on tour with him, the deputy testified.

    Court documents reveal Meggan Lambesis had filed for divorce in September 2012 to end the couple’s 8-year marriage.

    In the divorce records obtained by the Associated Press, Meggan Lambesis claims the rocker had become “obsessed with bodybuilding” and was distracted with the children, even falling asleep once while watching them. She also claimed he has spent thousands of dollars on tattoos.

Update. Feb 26, 2104 ★

(Link): As I Lay Dying lead singer Tim Lambesis admits he tried to hire man to kill wife

    BY SASHA GOLDSTEIN / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
    TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 2014, 11:01 PM

    The Grammy-nominated Christian band singer worried his wife would take much of his fortune when the two divorced. The 32-year-old asked a man at his California gym last April if he knew someone who could kill Meggan Lambesis.

(Link): Tim Lambesis: As I Lay Dying singer pleads guilty to attempting to hire a hitman to murder estranged wife

    Wednesday 26 February 2014

    Tim Lambesis, the frontman of American Christian metal band As I Lay Dying, has pleaded guilty to the solicitation of murder by attempting to hire a hitman to kill his estranged wife.

(Link): Metal Singer Pleads Guilty in Plot to Kill Estranged Wife

(Link): As I Lay Dying Frontman Pleads Guilty in Murder for Hire Plot

(Link): Tim Lambesis: Singer Admits Hiring ‘Hitman’

    Wednesday 26 February 2014

    Tim Lambesis’ wife had filed for divorce claiming he had become emotionally distant, before he hired a hitman to kill her.

    … Mrs Lambesis had filed for divorce, claiming he had become emotionally distant, was preoccupied with bodybuilding and touring and spent money irresponsibly. She also later learned he was having an affair.

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Related posts:

(Link): Marriage Does Not Make People More Loving Mature Godly Ethical Caring or Responsible (One Stop Thread)

(Link): Pro Ball Player Convicted for Kid Diddling Three Kids Claims to be an Outstanding Christian (and he’s married with a kid of his own) – again, why should Christian single gals limit themselves to only marrying Christian men? The Whole “Being Yoked Equally” thing is irrelevant and unduly limiting for singles

(Link): Pastor charged in wife’s murder was headed to Europe to marry boyfriend, prosecutor says – Single Christian Ladies: Kick that Be Equally Yoked Teaching to the Curb! Also: Marriage and Parenthood do not make people more godly or mature or loving or ethical

Married Preacher and Father of Five (Geronimo Aguilar) In Trouble Over Multiple Affairs and Sex with Kids

Married Preacher In Trouble Over Multiple Affairs and Sex with Kids

And meanwhile, churches and most Christians keep assuming they cannot trust never married adults (singles) to be sexually ethical. And Christians keep brainwashing kids, teens, and college students to believe if only they wait until marriage to have sex, the sex will be great – if that were true, I don’t think we’d be seeing married men screwing around so much, or into porn.

(Link): ROC Megachurch Addresses Extra-Marital Affairs of Former Pastor

    BY ANUGRAH KUMAR, CHRISTIAN POST CONTRIBUTOR
    September 16, 2013|8:44 am

    Months after its founding pastor Geronimo Aguilar resigned amid charges of sexual assault, Virginia’s Richmond Outreach Center (ROC) megachurch has publicly acknowledged the former leader’s “multiple extramarital affairs with members of our church and community.”

    … Aguilar, affectionately known as “Pastor G,” was extradited in May to Texas where he is facing seven felony charges, including sexual assaulted of two sisters under age 14 in the 1990s in the Fort Worth area before he founded the ROC ministry. He could spend the rest of his life in prison if convicted.

    Pastor G is married and the father of five children.

    “After our former pastor was arrested related to charges in Texas, the Board of Directors became aware of his multiple extramarital affairs with members of our church and community,” the Board said. “This Biblically disqualified him from the office of pastor and leadership of The ROC in any capacity.”

    After the sexual assault allegations surfaced, several women came forward and claimed they had sex with Pastor G. “He brought us alcohol, we got drunk and the rest is history,” said Amber Baker, according to 8News.

    “I had just turned 18. We had sex… It was wrong. Just because it is not illegal doesn’t mean it is not wrong and he was my pastor I moved to Richmond to serve God.” Baker has also claimed Pastor G had sex with other members of her family. “My mother, my aunt and myself have all been involved with him sexually.”

Married Youth Pastor Father of Four Caught Raping and Molesting Several Little Boys claims the molesting kept the boys sexually pure and cures them of homosexuality

(Male) Married (to a woman) Youth Pastor Father of Four Caught Raping and Molesting Several Little Boys claims the molesting kept the boys sexually pure and cures them of homosexuality

Conservative Christians like to adhere to the stereotype that unmarried adults over the age of 30, especially the never married ones, are weirdos, selfish, ungodly, or sexual reprobates – when a segment of singles are VIRGINS (they have not engaged in sexual activity) and are hard working, mature, and godly.

Many conservative Christians also assume that becoming a parent automatically makes an individual mature, responsible, and caring.

Conservative Christians also like to feed propaganda to single Christians (usually teenagers and college aged students) that if they only stay a virgin until marriage, that the sex will be “mind blowing.”

(“Mind blowing” is usually the descriptive phrase of choice by conservative Christians who write blogs and books about sexual purity. It’s not my choice of words.)

Not only do I have posts on this blog of copies of news articles about wives who admit they were virgins on their wedding night and that the honeymoon (and beyond) sex was terrible, but some of them say their husbands never want to have sex any more – so they are no longer having sex.

Now, if it were true that saving sex until marriage made the sex great and that one would be sexually satisfied with one’s own spouse, and if it were true the marriage automatically makes a person more godly, responsible, and holy, why do I keep finding stories like this one below, of a married Christian man, who worked as a preacher, who fondled and raped little boys repeatedly?

(Link): Pastor had sex with teens to ‘cure’ their homosexuality

(Link): “Rape the gay away” pastor won’t serve time

    BY ROD BASTANMEHR
    Sept 13, 2013

    Iowa pastor and youth counselor Brent Girouex, who claimed with a straight face that he was trying to “cure” teenage boys of their “homosexual urges” by having sex with them, has had his sentence reduced from 17 years in prison to sex offender treatment and probation.

    Since Girouex confessed to having sex with four underage boys, eight additional young men have come forward saying they were sexually violated by the 31-year-old pastor. Girouex, who is not longer a pastor at the Victory Fellowship Church, believed that he could rape away the gay by “praying while he had sexual contact” with the boys, all in an effort to keep them “sexually pure” for God.

    According to reports, he told police that “when they would ejaculate, they would be getting rid of the evil thoughts in their mind.”

    Girouex, a married father of four, has had a fair share of backlash since he publicly made his disturbing practices known. One of his most ardent opponents is his wife Erin, who has spoken out against both him and the reduced sentence he received after the initial 17 years he was to serve in prison.

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Married Christian Preacher Men are Drug Addicts and Thieves

Married Christian Preachers are Drug Addicts and Thieves

Married Christian men have no scruples, especially the ones who work as preachers. Married Christian men are drug addicts and burglars.

(Link): Tenn. preacher charged again with burglary

    Brian Haas, The Tennessean 10:39 p.m. EDT September 3, 2013

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. — A Tennessee pastor caught on tape trying to break into a church member’s home for drugs in 2011 has been arrested again after police say he burglarized the home of another former church member.

    Rickey Alan Reed, 56, of Smyrna remained jailed Tuesday on $32,500 bond in Davidson County on a single count each of felony aggravated burglary and misdemeanor theft under $500. He was already on probation after pleading guilty in 2011 to aggravated burglary in Rutherford County, avoiding a four-year prison sentence by begging a judge for mercy, forgiveness and a chance to treat his addiction.

    But Jewel Proper, 70, said none of it worked. Instead she found him the morning of Aug. 8 standing in her Antioch home with her pain medication.

(Link): Cops: Pastor Burglarized a Parishioner Home … Again – Sept 2013

(Link): TENNESSEE: Pastor Rickey Alan Reed, caught on tape in attempted break-in, avoids prison

    Written by Brian Haas
    Tuesday, 24 July 2012 21:04

    The judge eyed pastor Rickey Alan Reed sternly.

    Should Reed, after trying to break into a church member’s home to steal prescription painkillers, spend up to four years in prison after violating such an important trust? Or should he be shown mercy as someone who was acting in the throes of a drug addiction but has since gotten help?
    “This is a serious offense, Mr. Reed,” Rutherford County Judge David Bragg told Reed, 55. “A person’s home is their sanctuary, no less than where they pray.”

    “This is a serious offense, Mr. Reed,” Rutherford County Judge David Bragg told Reed, 55. “A person’s home is their sanctuary, no less than where they pray.”

    In the end, Reed, former pastor of First Free Methodist Church, received mercy. The judge sentenced him to four years of probation. If he successfully completes that probation, which includes random drug checks, he will be able to have the charge dismissed and the felony wiped from his record.

    But Jean Harris, the woman who went to police after catching Reed on video trying to break into her home last summer, said there is no wiping the crime from her memory. She said she has had to leave First Free Methodist Church after being a member there for 55 years, then being shunned by church members for speaking to police.

    “I’ll probably never be able to trust another pastor,” Harris testified in court. She turned to Reed. “I’ve lost a huge part of my life, and you caused the destruction of a home church that is now split.”

    … Last July, Harris was trying to figure out who was stealing her prescription pain pills. She set up a video camera in her kitchen and waited.

    On July 4, 2011, she caught Reed as he walked up to her door, knocked, jiggled the handle and tried to unlock it with a credit card. Stymied by the lock, he left.

    Harris said she struggled with the decision of whether to tell police, but spoke out because of what she saw was an attempted coverup by church members. Police charged Reed with attempted aggravated burglary. They also have said that at least three other people suspect Reed stole prescription drugs, but two refused to press charges, and detectives didn’t have enough evidence in the third case.

    On Friday, Reed admitted to trying to break into Harris’ home. When asked if he had burglarized anyone before he was caught on tape, he responded, “No, sir.”

    But a few minutes later, he admitted that he previously burglarized Harris’ home to steal prescription pills.

    …Since the arrest, Reed has left First Free Methodist Church, taking with him a good number of church members. He is now the part-time interim pastor of Living Faith Ministries and working as a pizza delivery man.

    He also has dealt with depression, suicidal thoughts and a difficult drug rehabilitation.

    “I’ve seen him battle so much,” his wife, Jan Reed, said on the stand. “It’s like a miracle as far as how well he is doing.”