Adult Singles Do Not Need A Marital Partner to Be Whole or Complete

Adult Singles Do Not Need A Marital Partner to Be Whole or Complete

I only wanted to offer a very brief commentary on this editorial at The Christian Post,

(Link): Message to Vicky Beeching: The Logic of Creation, Not ‘Psychoanalysis by a Stranger’

Here is the portion of the editorial I wished to address:

BY ROBERT A. J. GAGNON

It doesn’t require individual knowledge of Ms. Beeching [lesbian singer] to know that she errs when she regards another woman as her “other half,” as her sexual complement or counterpart since obviously she is whole as a woman and is not in need of joining herself to another woman to supplement whatever she may falsely perceive to be lacking in her femaleness.

That is a given, so long as her existence as a woman is not questioned (and I, for one, do not question it). It is obvious that, sexually speaking, the appropriate counterpart to a woman (anatomically, physiologically, psychologically) is a man, not another woman.

….And yet the image of marriage in Genesis 2 is that the two halves of the sexual spectrum, man and woman, reunite into a single, integrated sexual whole. She is already intact in relation to her own sex; it’s the other half of the sexual spectrum that she doesn’t have covered.
— end excerpts —

Depending on how this author is meaning to use this argumentation, it can be damaging to never-married, divorced, or widowed adults.

Continue reading “Adult Singles Do Not Need A Marital Partner to Be Whole or Complete”

The Midlife Church Crisis – how churches marginalize anyone who is not married with young children and middle-agers are leaving church

The Midlife Church Crisis – how churches marginalize anyone who is not married with young children and middle-agers are leaving church

I have linked to her material before. I am over 40, never married, never had any kids and noticed by my mid 30s that churches are far too fixated on “family” and children.

This married woman, Van Loon, didn’t notice until she reached her 40s or so and became an “empty nester” (her children grew up and moved out).

I have been saying on this blog for over a year now that many churches, especially Baptist and evangelical ones, tend to exclude every one, except for children and young married couples.

If you are over 30, still not married, or are married with no kids, or are divorced or widowed, you are not even thought to exist by most churches, or your needs are not ministered to.

Everyone is expected to support the 29 year old married couple who has a baby and a toddler.

I see no place in the Bible that permits such favoritism, the negligence, by churches, of entire groups of people (such as adult singles and widowers) to coddle one other group (young nuclear families), but this happens routinely in U.S. churches.

The thing I find sad or frustrating is that while never married, childless adults such as me spot by our mid 30s, or earlier, that churches are too fixated on married with children couples and how this creates all sorts of problems for adult singles and churches, but it takes such couples into their 40s -or older- and it takes their kids growing up and moving out on their own- for these married couples to begin to notice the same thing.

If you’re a 40- or 50- something woman whose kids have grown and gone, and are now just noticing how churches place the “traditional family” on a pedestal and ignore everyone else, welcome to the club. We older, never married, childless singles have known this for years and years and years.

(Link):  The Midlife Church Crisis – In Christ, there is neither empty nester nor new mom. 

  • by Michelle Van Loon
  • ….I’ve had one too many conversations with empty-nester peers about what it’s like to go to church once our kids are grown and gone. Our midlife crisis of faith came from questioning not our beliefs, but our role in the body of Christ.

    When the bulletin is filled with announcements for mothers of preschoolers’ gatherings, family camping weekends, and Vacation Bible School, I know I’m welcome to lend a hand by baking muffins or doing crafts. I’ve gotten the message that, now that my own children have grown, my role is to support the real focus of the church: families.

    Decades ago, baby boomers and older Gen Xers pushed to create churches centered on the young, nuclear family. Sadly, this ministry model now excludes many of us. Having outgrown the local church’s core programs, we’re left to usher, teach fourth-grade Sunday school, or attend committee meetings. At times, I can’t help thinking: Been there, done that. Got the Christian T-shirt to prove it.

  • ….Anecdotally speaking, it seemed that those over age 40 who discovered meaningful service, worship, and connections reported that their church was committed to intergenerational ministry rather than family-centered, child-focused programming. Though there is some overlap between the two ministry philosophies, the congregations that concentrate on families with children under 18 unintentionally marginalize those who don’t fit the profile.
  • … When we church leaders ape our culture’s obsession with all things young and cool—targeting the same desirable demographic groups as do savvy advertisers—we communicate to those who don’t fit those specs that they are less desirable.
  • ((click here to read the rest))

Related:

(Link):  Aged Out of Church by M. Van Loon (For Christians over the Age of 35 – 40 – Churches ignoring middle aged adults)

(Link):  Why Even Middle Aged Married with Children Christians Are Leaving Church – Not Just Unmarried Singles | 40 Somethings Gen X Quitting Leaving Church

(Link):  Mature Christians Need to Stop Allowing the Under 30 Crowd to Direct the Entire State of Christian Affairs

(Link):  Youth Fixation in Churches and how it alienates older Christians

(Link):  Never Married Christians Over Age 35 who are childless Are More Ignored Than Divorced or Infertile People or Single Parents

Groom arrested after allegedly becoming ‘handsy’ with waitress at reception

There are times I’m okay with being single and actually rather relieved I never married. I especially feel that way when I see things like this:

(Link): Groom arrested after allegedly becoming ‘handsy’ with waitress at reception

  • Sept 2, 2014
  • A groom became “handsy” with a pregnant waitress at his wedding reception and tried to pour alcohol down her throat, then resisted arrest after getting into a fight with her boyfriend, police said.

    Mark Williams, 33, of Crafton, was charged with riot, harassment and resisting arrest Monday in the altercation during his wedding cruise aboard the Gateway Clipper.

  • ..A third man at the wedding reception is charged with punching out the window of a parked car.

“You’re not a real man until you have children” – childless, childfree women should be able to relate to this too

“You’re not a real man until you have children” by G. Proops – women should be able to relate to this too

The audio in this contains the “F bomb” a lot, but what he says is true.

He starts out focusing his discussion on childless men, but it becomes generic enough, so if you are a CF or childless woman, you should be able to relate.

Among other things, he talks about how parents today whine about having to take care of their own kids. He tells them to shut up, because it was their choice to have kids, and having a kid becomes your job.

He talks about how parents act as though single, childless people are nothing – parents can be very condescending to singles, childless, or childfree people.

(Link): Greg Proops On Having Children – The Smartest Man In The World

Video:

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Related post:

(Link): Childfree By Choice: How Women are Redefining Tomorrow’s Family

Baby Making Fixation at Christianity Today Magazine Online – Shaming Women For Not Procreating, or For Delaying Motherhood, or For Limiting the Number of Children

Baby Making Fixation at Christianity Today Magazine Online – Shaming Women For Not Procreating, or For Delaying Motherhood, or For Limiting the Number of Children

I am not going to provide links as is my custom, because I find this so obnoxious. (The URL to the excerpted piece is below).

Within about a week long time frame, CT (Christianity Today magazine) published two very “pro motherhood” type articles on their site.

I am not an opponent of motherhood. If a woman chooses to have babies, that is A-OK with me.

What I find appalling is how Christians either rain guilt down upon, or else shame, women for

  1. choosing not to have children at all, or
  2. for choosing to use birth control to delay when to have kids, or
  3. using birth control to limit the number of children they have, or
  4. to assume all childless women are childless by choice

On occasion, some Christian males, such as Al Mohler and Rev. Mark Driscoll, have screamed at young men to run out and get married immediately, but it seems to me that about 98% of the time, Christians and social conservatives are yelling at WOMEN to hurry up, get married, and crank out kids.

I do not think either gender should be pressured to marry at all or soon in life, but I am tired of the sexist double standard.

Women get more shamed and pressured to marry, marry young, and have children, and have children young, more often than men do.

I come across these “marry and make babies young” editorials by Christians and sometimes conservatives, aimed at women far more often than I see them directed at men.

Christians often teach adult singles that if they want a mate, they must achieve perfection, because God will not gift them with a spouse so long as they are flawed.

But then these same Christians, or others, like the lady below, assume if a woman wants a husband, all she has to do is “choose” one. I see. So if I want to get married, I can just “choose” a man, and get married?

But how does that view square with the Christians who tell me the reason I am unmarried is that God is “sanctifying me” and “cleaning me up” before he will send me a spouse?

How is it that I am told on the one hand by some Christians that God is requiring me to fix myself before he’ll send me a spouse, but at the same time, these other Christians are saying I can have a husband if I just “choose” to have one? Which is it?

Here are the editorials I am talking about – these were published under the women’s section of Christianity Today online, and are chock full of sexism, assumptions, and guilt trips:

Have Babies, Just Not Yet – published on Christianity Today, Aug 18 2014, by Courtney Reissig 

(url:

christianitytoday.com/women/2014/august/have-babies-just-not-yet.html?paging=off)

And,

“How Natural Family Planning Shaped My View of Sex” – published on Christianity Today, Aug 25 2014 

Note: I have revised this post to remove most of the direct quotes and have instead summarized most of the author’s points; what follows, and under FAIR USE, are excerpts, and NOT the full articles / editorials.

Even before this revision, I did NOT reproduce the entire editorial, contra the claims of the Christianity Today employee who contacted me over this via Twitter.

Excerpts from (and I have some remarks below these excerpts, farther down the page):

Have Babies, Just Not Yet – published on Christianity Today, Aug 18 2014, by Courtney Reissig

There are a number of reasons for the delay of childbearing on the part of women, who increasingly find themselves pursuing higher degrees, working full-time, and taking on leadership positions.

[snip many comments by author about how women are, she feels, choosing to pursue a career, or obtain a college education, over having children]

[snip further comments where the author cites studies that the average age of a woman having her first child is age 30, and she notes that she thinks that Christians believe that any woman who has a child around age 20 is wasting her choices and opportunities] Continue reading “Baby Making Fixation at Christianity Today Magazine Online – Shaming Women For Not Procreating, or For Delaying Motherhood, or For Limiting the Number of Children”

Republicans And Women: Single Women Vote Democratic Because They Wish They Were Married, Pundit Says

Republicans And Women: Single Women Vote Democratic Because They Wish They Were Married, Pundit Says

Skimming this article over, I think it gets a few things wrong, but he may be right about one or two things.

This is one of those times I’m not firmly on either side. I think the liberal lady who responded to this guy’s editorial (which I link to farther below) made some good points, but I feel he made some good points, too. I feel she maybe got a few points wrong, but he did too.

(Link): Republicans And Women: Single Women Vote Democratic Because They Wish They Were Married, Pundit Says

I happen to be a woman, single, want to get married, but I never vote Democrat. I’m a Republican.

There were a few other comments or assumptions this guy made that struck me as strange.

His assumption that single women want to get married is highly novel.

Why do I say that? Because most of the time, my fellow right wingers assume that the reason women are single into adulthood is that they are all men-hating, leftist feminists who hate marriage, do not want marriage, and prefer focusing on their career over getting married.

There may be some women who want to stay single, or who place a career before marriage, but I don’t think that is true of most women, but it is an assumption I see time and again by Republicans and conservatives, and by Christians.

Some of this guy’s (Reno’s) views about women, why they feel as they do, or why they are not married, and a host of other things is condescending in some parts.

Recall again that I myself am a Republican. I doubt I will ever agree with most Democratic positions on much of anything, but this does not mean I always agree with every last position stated or held by other Republicans.

I don’t know about the Republican Party, but – I do think more Christian churches should serve as match-making vehicles for adult singles who want mates, the ones who would welcome the help. An adult’s single’s basic choices for meeting someone past the age of 30, boil down to

  • 1. friends 2. dating sites 3. bars and nightclubs.

I never had a huge network of friends, so option 1 never worked for me. My adult single female friends would ask me to fix them up on blind dates with men, but I told them I didn’t know any, or I knew the same ones they already knew.

As for 2, that is not successful. Most of the Christian men who are on dating sites are crass morons. As for 3, bars have always seemed sleazy to me, especially during my time as a devout Christian. So. Churches need to fill this gap and start playing match maker for singles who are interested.

I’m not sure about overall American population, but based on about every survey, poll, and article I’ve read about evangelical/Baptist adult singles in the past five or so years, the reason why adult women are staying single boils down to a numbers game: the single, Christian females vastly out number the single, Christian males.

One article I saw said that the reason singles aren’t marrying is due to economic factors – young males are having a hard time finding steady employment and don’t feel they can marry without a steady paycheck.

(Link): This post at my blog also quotes a writer who mentions the phenomenon.

This post also covers it: (Link): Over 10 Million Men of Prime Working Age Are Unemployed in the US and Experts Think It’s Causing Declining Marriage Rates

The author, R R Reno, who blames liberals in part for why women who want marriage are remaining single, should be fair and acknowledge that conservative Christians also play a role in keeping women single, the ones who want marriage.

As you already are aware from this blog, and reading what other singles have to say, Christians encourage adults singles over the age of 30 to remain single and actively discourage or block singles from getting spouses.

On the one hand, Christians gripe and complain about singles being single, but when Christian singles take steps to get married, such as asking married friends to pray for God to send them a mate, or when they ask church friends to set them up on blind dates, they get patronizing lectures consisting of unbiblical attitudes such as,

  • “be happy where you are,” ‘the Lord is your husband, don’t bother dating,” “don’t try to get married; if it’s in God’s will, he will send Mr. Right to you,” and “be content in your singleness,” and “if you are still past age X, it means God has called you to a life of singlehood.”

With attitudes such as those, conservative Christians are keeping adult singles single. They are acting as barriers to Christians who wish to be married; it’s not just liberal Democrats who may be at fault, it’s right wingers, as well.

(Link): Republicans And Women: Single Women Vote Democratic Because They Wish They Were Married, Pundit Says

Winning the women’s vote has been (Link): an acknowledged problem for Republicans in recent elections, and one conservative pundit believes he has the way to fix it — namely, “reinforce the authority of traditional culture.”

R.R. Reno, editor of (Link):  the online political journal First Things, published his essay, “The Dilemma Facing Social Conservatives” on Thursday, in which he argues that the the typical unmarried woman who voted for Barack Obama in 2012 and tends to vote Democratic in most elections, simply “wants to get married and feels vulnerable because she isn’t and vulnerable because she’s not confident she can.”

The reason such women reject Republican candidates, Reno says, is that they feel “judged” by Republicans, who oppose same sex marriage. Because Republicans advocate banning all marriages other than those involving heterosexual couples, Reno’s hypothetically typical unmarried woman feels that the GOP is telling her that “her life isn’t on the right path.”

Continue reading “Republicans And Women: Single Women Vote Democratic Because They Wish They Were Married, Pundit Says”

Eleven Marriage Regrets From the Divorced (from H. Post) -Also the No Divorce Rule by Christians is a Symptom of Holding Marriage as an Idol

Eleven Marriage Regrets From the Divorced (from H. Post) -Also the No Divorce Rule by Christians is a Symptom of Holding Marriage as an Idol

I no longer believe in the Christian view of “permanence” regarding marriage (you might want to read this off site article about the issue) – not that I ever accepted it concerning abusive marriages to start with.

I never felt that an abused woman should stay with an abusive man and “submit more” to him, or just stay, period. Life is too short to spend it with someone who mistreats you or takes you for granted, or to spend it feeling ignored, unsatisfied, and unloved. Abuse is a grounds for divorce, not only adultery.

I think that the “permanence” view of marriage – which stipulates either only adultery is grounds for “biblical divorce” or there are no biblical grounds for divorce ever, is a symptom of MARRIAGE IDOLATRY. Christians have made marriage into an idol that they worship along with God.

A Christian person’s only permanent relationship is with the Trinity (God). If you are married on earth, Jesus Christ says your spouse now will not be your spouse in Heaven, as there is no marriage in the afterlife. Your relationship with Christ will stay the same, by contrast.

God granted mankind divorce because people are imperfect. Even the Bible mentions that, though it uses the phrase “hard hearted” or something.

You see the items below where the divorced women said they regret having been married because “they lost themselves” because they put everyone else first in the marriage, or where they said they lost their identity in their spouse and had no clue who they were? That is called codependency, and society and American Christianity teach women to be that way, they encourage women to be that way, and it is detrimental to women.

In churches, and on some blogs, books, sermons, and pod casts and sites by Christians, women will be told (usually under gender complementarianism teachings, or the title “biblical womanhood”), that it is proper, right, biblical, or “godly” for women not to get their own needs met; to always defer to their husband’s decisions; to let their spouse think for them and make choices for them; to always put the spouse and kids’ ahead of their own needs; and to lose themselves catering and serving to others.

Those beliefs may not always be spelled out so clearly as I put them there, but they are inherent, assumed, or implied in some Christian views about what is “appropriate” or “biblical” behavior for married Christian women (or even for single ones – I got brainwashed to hold those views and practice them since girlhood).

If you do that, if you follow that advice because you believe getting your own needs met, or disagreeing with a man, or saying no to anyone’s request for your time or money, is “selfish” or not being a “godly woman”, you will end up burnt out and filled with resentment in the future.

You can bank on that. Years spent always caring about other people and their needs, never standing up for yourself when your feelings are stomped on, and never nurturing yourself and going after what you want and need will end up leaving you exhausted, unhappy, unfulfilled, and resentful.

That Christians keep holding this up as a model for women to follow, and to further refer to it as “godly” or “biblical womanhood,” is demonic.

The Bible says woe to those who call good evil or evil good, but that is precisely what Christians do when they advise girls and women to be doormats to be used and abused and call it “biblical” Or “gender complementarianism” and insist that is how God designed women to operate and HOW God wants women to behave all the time. That is wrong, wrong, wrong.

If you are a woman who recognizes herself in any of that, please do yourself a favor and read the book “Boundaries” by Cloud and Townsend, and “The Disease to Please” by Harriet Braiker.

There are also many other wonderful books you should read about these topics, just do a search for the word “codependency” or the phrase “people pleasing” on internet bookstore sites to find the pertinent material. God does not want you to be a doormat and ignore your own needs constantly.

(Link): 11 Marriage Regrets From The Divorced

Excerpts.

    • For most of us, moving on after divorce is easier said than done. You may cut ties with your ex and embrace life on your own, but thoughts of what you could have done differently always linger.

Below, HuffPost Divorce readers share the biggest regret they have about their marriages, from walking the down the aisle in the first place, to giving decades of their life to their exes when they knew the relationship didn’t stand a chance.

1. “I regret not realizing he was broken and that I couldn’t fix him.”

2. “My biggest regret? Staying seven years and giving my all because that’s what I felt society expected of me. If both of us weren’t going to give it our all, it was never going to work. The last five years of being on my own have been vastly better than all 14 years of my marriage.”

5. ” I should have left after he cheated on me the first time and not wasted so many years of my life with him.”

6. “I regret all the red flags I ignored, beginning the day before the wedding when I didn’t have the guts to call it off. I regret being too trusting, too optimistic and too serious about my vows to realize I was not in a a viable relationship.”

Continue reading “Eleven Marriage Regrets From the Divorced (from H. Post) -Also the No Divorce Rule by Christians is a Symptom of Holding Marriage as an Idol”

Thomas Guerra charged: Knowingly transmitted HIV to ex, possibly 24 men in total

Thomas Guerra charged: Knowingly transmitted HIV to ex, possibly 24 men in total 

(Link):  Man Accused of Willfully Spreading HIV Could Face More Charges

(Link): California man charged with willfully spreading HIV; authorities search for more victims

(Link): Man charged with willfully spreading HIV: Accuser speaks to 10News to warn others
(Link): Man accused of intentionally spreading HIV

(Link): Gay California landscape architect, who claims to be civil rights leader’s grand-nephew, accused of spreading HIV on purpose (VIDEO)

by Lee Moran

Aug 2014

Thomas Guerra, a 29-year-old who says he’s related to Cesar Chavez, is allegedly a sexual ‘sociopath’ who infected at least 24 men in the San Diego area after telling them he was HIV negative.

Continue reading “Thomas Guerra charged: Knowingly transmitted HIV to ex, possibly 24 men in total”

2014 Studies: Women Prefer to Date, Marry Tall Men – And Short Men Marry Later in Life but Divorce Less

2014 Studies: Women Prefer to Date, Marry Tall Men – Short Men Marry Later in Life but Divorce Less

(Link):  Sorry shorties, tall dudes have their pick of the dating pool

  • by  August 27, 2014
  • There is already a (Link): growing body of research suggesting that tall men are generally (Link): paid better and are viewed as more masculine and competent. A new paper suggests that their height advantage also spills over into their personal lives.
  • “There seems to be an almost universal agreement among men and women that they would prefer to be in a relationship where the man is taller,” said Abigail Weitzman, lead author of the study published this month by the National Bureau of Economic Research, a nonprofit organization that focuses on how the economy works.
  • That leaves short men with a smaller pool of women to date and marry. But it’s not all bad news for them. Their relationships tend to last longer, although that may have more to do with their partners’ choices.
  • Shorter guys — less than 5-foot-7 — “get divorced at lower rates,” Weitzman noted. “This probably means that women who don’t want to be in a relationship with short men are more likely to leave before they get married, rather than after.”

 

Continue reading “2014 Studies: Women Prefer to Date, Marry Tall Men – And Short Men Marry Later in Life but Divorce Less”

Study on Male, Christian Sexual Abstinence Reveals Many Christians Still Clinging to Gendered Sexual Stereotypes

Study on Male, Christian Sexual Abstinence Reveals Many Christians Still Clinging to Gendered Sexual Stereotypes – Churches do not provide accountability classes for single women, for instance, because they don’t perceive women as wanting or needing sex


(Link): Blogger Guy, John H. Morgan, Who Accused Me Of Being Untrustworthy Apparently Finds My Blog Trustworthy Enough to Use As A Resource


I blogged about this story a few days ago, please see this link:

But a new article I saw about this same study today made me want to point out something else about it. Here’s an except with comments by me below the excerpts:

(Link):  What Happens When Evangelical Virgin Men Get Married? This Secular Female Sociologist Found Out. by Alice Robb

Excerpts (emphasis added by me):

  • AR: Are there similar support groups for abstinent women in the church?
  • SD: Not that I found. The church, and the men that I interviewed, don’t believe that women would need a space to talk through these issues.

  • They believe that men are highly sexual beings and they have “natural urges” that need to be controlled, but they don’t believe that women have that natural desire to be sexually active. Women are the providers of sexual activity for their husbands.

    One of the men shared a revealing story. He was dating a woman from outside the church and she wanted to have sex with him. I asked him why they broke up, and he said that was the main reason. Not only did having premarital sex go against his beliefsfor him, it also indicated that she was in love with him, and he wasn’t yet in love with her. It couldn’t be that she just wanted to have sex with her boyfriend.

As I’ve said before on this blog, conservative Christians, every one from the Southern Baptists to the Reformed to Fundamentalists and Evangelicals – have some very mistaken ideas about women and sex.

Many women like sex every bit as much as many men do, and women can be prone to engaging in casual sex, having affairs, using porn, etc, as men do.

I’ve blogged on this issue before, such as (I have several blog pages about it, these are just two):

I also just posted this story the other day that shows that there are a lot of Christian women who admit to using pornography on a regular basis.

The story is mainly about men, but it also discusses porn use among women:

I feel that a lot of the church is so opposed to things such as homosexuality and transgenderism, that they think the “cure” for what they perceive to be these rampant sexual sins in culture is to make up ever more tighter, and stricter gender roles, where they insist “men are from Mars, women are from Venus, and God designed it that way” type of thinking. And it’s not biblical.

As a result of socially conservative Christians thinking one avenue of winning the sexual culture wars is to enact very strict gender roles, you will see Christians doing things like maintaining the assumption that all women want to marry and want to have children, or that all women should want those things. Christians will assume and teach and promote the idea that God designed all women to like the color pink, enjoy sewing tea pot cozies, be quiet and submissive, and sighing at pretty rainbows.

And if you are a woman who does not like pink, you tend to be outspoken, you do not marry, you do not have children, or do not meet their other criteria, they don’t believe you are filling your God given gender role.

Note again, this is their opinion only; God does not set up, in the Bible, requirements for men and women to fill in regards to gender roles that are to be true of all women for all time, or for all men for all time.

These sorts of Christians will teach that ALL men are, or should be, tough, stoic he-men who should want to watch football and NASCAR, and any man who does not do these things and other random criteria they come up with, is failing his role of “biblical manhood.”

The Bible does not teach such strict gender roles, nor does it have a bullet list of what a woman must or must not do to be a “biblical woman.”

Continue reading “Study on Male, Christian Sexual Abstinence Reveals Many Christians Still Clinging to Gendered Sexual Stereotypes”

Pat Robertson Says 44 Year old Never Married Woman Who Wants Marriage is “Desperate”

Pat Robertson Says 44 Year old Never Married Woman Who Wants Marriage is “Desperate”

Some lady wrote to Robertson’s show today to say she is 44 years old, has never married, and would like to be.

Her letter did not come off sounding particularly desperate to me; she was asking Robertson should she pursue marriage by joining a dating site or something, or just keep praying that God send her a spouse?

Robertson did respond to her question, but only after spending the first 3/4 of his reply telling her she sounds “desperate” and had better tone it down, or she will never get married, because any man who meets her will be scared off by her desperation.

I’ve meet desperate single men before, and yes, their desperation is scary and a turn off. But I think it’s a far different thing for a woman to write a Christian show host simply admitting she’d like companionship and a woman going all out nuts that she’s not married. There is a difference between merely wanting something and being desperate about it.

I therefore found Robertson’s response a bit insensitive.

I don’t know why people bother writing this guy for advice – he’s currently about 85 years old, seems a wee bit addled at times, and typically gives heartless advice.

This might be the video:
(Link): Aug 28, 2014 Bring it On hosted by P. Robertson

Video on You Tube:


Related posts:

(Link): Christian TV Show Host Pat Robertson Disrespects Virginity – Says Pre-Marital Sex Is “Not A Bad Thing”

(Link): Pat Robertson’s Incredibly Insensitive Advice to Gail the Unmarried Woman 

(Link): Televangelist Pat Robertson’s wife DeDe dies at Virginia home aged 94

(Link): Pat Robertson’s Downer, Bad Advice to Gabby the Mid-30s, Never Married Lady Who’s Not Having Success with Dating Sites

(Link): Cathy The Single Woman Asks Pat Robertson Why God Has Not Replied to Her Prayers for Years to Send Her a Spouse

(Link):  Prayer and The 700 Club  – Some Observations and Suggestions

(Link): Advocate of Family Values Doesn’t Uphold Family Values | Stop Asking Pat Robertson for Advice America!

(Link):  Women: Stop Asking Pat Robertson For Romantic Relationship Advice – Whether You Are Divorced or Single  – Pat Robertson Replies to Letter from Four Time Divorced Woman Who Wants to Know If God Will Send Her a Non-Abusive Husband

(Link):  Celibate Christian Woman Asks Christian Host (Pat Robertson) Why God Will Not Send Her a Husband

(Link):  Christian TV Show Pat Robertson Says Wives Who Want Emotional Support from a Husband Are Immature and Should Not Expect Emotional Support

(Link): Christian Host Pat Robertson Tells Christian Woman Who Married Christian Man Who Turned Out to Be Totally Unethical That She has Discernment of a Slug – Single Women: toss Be Equally Yoked teaching in the trash can

(Link): “He’s Got Muscles” – Pat Robertson Weirdness (Discussing Tebow’s Sexiness)

(Link): Pat Robertson says ‘Virginity Has Nothing To Do With Marriage’ and Says (Paraphrasing) ‘Virginity Was Fine For Mary But Not Applicable For Any Other Christians’

(Link): Pat Robertson Expects Men to Commit Sexual Sin (and it’s not the first time)

(Link): Pat Robertson: (basically): Pre Marital Sex is Okay (or to be totally expected) Because People are “Sexual Beings”

(Link): Robertson Defends His Horrible Advice to Married Woman

(Link): Don’t Be Pat Robertson: Learn That, Yes, Abusive Jerks Masquerade As Nice Guys Until They Marry the Woman Then They Abuse Her – Pat Blames A Woman Again For Marrying A Jerk

(Link): Is Pat Robertson of The 700 Club Show some kind of secret perv? He’s Creepy

Want To Grow Your Church? Advertise Sex (Story via A Little Leaven Blog)

Want To Grow Your Church? Advertise Sex. (story via A Little Leaven blog)


A church put up a billboard with the words, “I Love Sex – God” (with a heart symbol where it says “Love”)

You can watch the news report about the billboard here (the blog has an embedded video of a news report about the church’s billboard):

(Link): Want To Grow Your Church? Advertise Sex.

The preacher of the church says since culture is so obsessed with sex, why not the church? He thinks talking about sex from the pulpit will get his church more new members.

Meanwhile, you have Christian adult celibates who might from time to time like to hear that God loves celibacy and/or adult singleness, but churches keep right on ignoring them to chase after the married couples and to tell the married couples how much God supposedly wants them to have sex.

(Link): Church Puts God and Sex on BillBoard

  • Aug 28, 2014, 2:18 PM ET

(Link):  Church Uses Racy Billboard to Attract New Visitors

To even the score, here are some images confirming that God is not a sex crazed, sex obsessed weirdo, and that he values singles and celibacy too:

"I Love Singles - God"
“I Love Singles – God”
"I Love Celibacy - God"
“I Love Celibacy – God”
"I Love Virginity - God"
“I Love Virginity – God”

Related posts:

(Link):  Preacher: ‘They Will Know We Are Christians By Our Hot SEX Lives’ – and once more, never-married celibate adults and their experiences, wisdom, and input are ignored

(Link):  Never Married Christians Over Age 35 who are childless Are More Ignored Than Divorced or Infertile People or Single Parents

(Link):  No Christians and Churches Do Not Idolize Virginity and Sexual Purity – Christians Attack and Criticize Virginity Sexual Purity Celibacy / Virginity Sexual Purity Not An Idol

(Link):  Resident Christian Marriage Advice Writer at Christian Mag Admits Some Christian Marriages are Sexless

(Link):  Strange Anti Masturbation Billboard by Religious Group
(Link):  Southern Baptist Russell Moore Admits That Christians Have Sexless Marriages

(Link):  Pastors avoid ‘controversy’ to keep tithes up, author says – Confirms What I’ve Been Saying All Along, Re: Churches: Contrary to Progressive Christians, Churches / Christians Do Not Support or Idolize Sexual Purity, Virginity, or Celibacy – they attack these concepts when not ignoring them

(Link):  More Married Couples Admit to Sexless Marriages (various articles) / Christians promise you great frequent sex if you wait until marriage, but the propaganda is not true