Radical Acceptance is Not a Feminized or Victim Blaming Concept – Re: Shrink4Men Video Content
In the past week, I’ve been watching a few videos by a woman therapist (or is the correct job title “psychologist” here?) who calls herself “Shrink4Men” on You Tube (her You Tube videos cite her actual name as Dr. Tara J. Palmatier, PsyD). Her You Tube video channel is located (Link): here.
I’ve agreed with about 99% of Dr. Shrink4Men’s (Palmatier’s) commentary that I’ve seen so far, in about 6 or 7 of her videos,
it aligns with what I’ve read competent mental health professionals say on these subjects, though at times, her personality rubs me the wrong way – but as I watch more videos, maybe she will grow on me?
She mainly discusses Codependency and Narcissistic Abuse.
Before I get to the main point of this post (which pertains to Dr. Shrink4Men’s take on the topic of Radical Acceptance), I wanted to say a few other things first.
➡️ (The specific topic of how Shrink4Men is misrepresenting Radical Acceptance is explained way, way below in this post under a heading that mentions the phrase “Radical Acceptance.”)
Disclaimers & Intro
I am not liberal, progressive, nor am I a feminist.
I do not hate all men – but I do notice that men as a group can adhere to sexist stereotypes about women or engage in sexist behavior, which I detest. (I detest sexism, not all men.)
Noticing that some men can be sexist, or that our culture tends to favor men (and at the expense of women, and yes, it does in fact do so) does not make me a “misandrist.”
I am not a mental health professional – but I do not have to be one to be educated on a topic, to have arrived at informed conclusions.
I don’t have to be a mental health professional to disagree with someone on mental health topics who is in the mental health profession.
I did take two psychology courses in my college years (that I earned A’s in), but I really began learning about people pleasing, Codependency, and personality disorders and toxic personality styles, on my own, in earnest, in my middle age, because I was trying to figure out why I had clinical depression for so many years and how to get rid of it.
I saw four psychiatrists (and briefly, a psychologist or two) in three states over two decades, from my childhood into my early or mid 30s, and none of the psychiatrists I saw could fix my depression.
(None of them really seemed interested in permanently curing me – they just wanted me to show up regularly to get a pill prescription for anti-depressants from them.
None were interested in getting to the root of my depression, which shows me that people in this profession are not gods, they’re not all-good – some are inept and in the profession for the money only)
I had to cure myself of depression by doing my own research on various mental health topics in middle age!
That should not have been the case – the mental health professionals I saw years ago should’ve pointed the way out of my depression, but they did not.
I’m in my 50s at this point – I no longer have clinical depression after having been afflicted with it for around 35 years. I am not a 20-something year old, naive, inexperienced kid.
Additionally, I am a recovered Codependent (much of my clinical depression was stemming from the Codependency, by the way
– it’s sad that I had to figure this out on my own
– the psychiatrists I saw when I was younger could have and should have connected those dots for me; would’ve saved me years or heartache and unnecessary struggle).
I arrived where I am today via life experience, reflection, hard work on myself, and a lot of reading articles, books, and/or listening to You Tube videos by therapists and psychologists (I can no longer financially afford to regularly see a therapist/psychologist), so I had to figure things out on my own, using free online resources by mental health professionals.
I do not have to have a license or a degree (in mental health) to adequately understand Narcissism, BPD, Sociopathy, or Codependency, or to be able to spot any of the traits of all those disorders or maladaptive relationship tendencies.
Pet Peeve
It’s a huge pet peeve of mine when people who are in school to become psychologists or therapists, or who already hold degrees in these areas, lecture me or those like me (and it’s usually in a patronizing, rude fashion) about how wrong I am on these subjects (according to them, to be “right” means I have to agree with THEM),
or how I do not have the right to hold whatever perspective I do on Codependency, Narcissism, or whatever related issue, because I do not have a university or medical degree in psychiatry, psychology, or therapy.
It’s ten times more annoying and arrogant when those who lecture me on this blog or elsewhere do so in a very angry, “ranty” manner.
And believe you me, on this blog and other areas I write online, in years past, I have had people claiming to have mental health degrees, or they say they work as psychologists, leave me some of the bitchiest, cattiest, rudest messages.
They’re not polite in how they “correct” me or disagree, they are angry and nasty about it.
Bottom line:
I do not have to go to college to earn a degree in X to have an informed, educated opinion on X. No, I do not. Nope.
So get off my blog with that snotty attitude, and don’t post some You Tube video condescendingly lecturing me that I don’t have a right to my views, or that my views are automatically wrong because I did not earn a degree in Psychology.
I respect the hard work someone put in to obtain a PhD or medical degree, but I am not going to fall at your feet in worship of you and assume that you are competent or automatically know what you’re talking about, and that you are always correct on any and every topic (even the one where we disagree).
I don’t have to have a PhD or a medical degree to have educated opinions on Narcissism, BPD, relationships, verbal abuse, Codependency, etc.
I probably am more qualified to talk about Narcissistic Abuse and a few other topics like that than 99% of mental health professionals out there.
I don’t say that out of arrogance,
but because I’ve noticed some mental health professionals lack a basic understanding and get things wrong on those subjects
– I’m basing this not just on my personal life experience of having once attracted Narcissists and other Toxics into my life during the 30+ years I was Codependent,
but also based on what I’ve read competent mental health professionals themselves have said on these subjects.
(An aside:
I’ve actually seen a tiny number of what I consider Quacks on You Tube – folks claiming to be psychologists, life coaches, or therapists – who actually say, “Yes, narcissism can be treated or cured.”
No, it cannot.
If you see a psychologist or other type of mental health professional claiming that narcissism can be cured or treated, and the cherry on top is they also tell you to book appointments with them starting today and force your narcissistic spouse to see them for regular visits – it’s a money-making scam.
Some of these same Quacks think that videos by other psychologists educating the general public about how Cluster B persons (such as Narcissists) are harmful,
or educational content they put out on how to avoid getting entangled with Cluster B disordered persons,
are “mean,” “cruel,” and “judgmental”
– they ask us Normies (that is, the non-disordered people with self awareness and empathy)
to pity and have sympathy for the Cluster Bs (such as Narcissists) and to be “more understanding” of what the poor, poor Cluster Bs are going through, or what abuse the Cluster B must have endured as a child to end up being abusive in adulthood.
Let me tell you, if you pity Cluster B’s and don’t take steps to detach from them, it’s going to cause YOU damage.
You cannot save or rescue a Cluster B person, nor is it your responsibility to do so. Do not allow others to exploit or weaponize your empathy!
One reason so many Codependent, empathetic, caring people get suckered into these toxic relationships or stay trapped in them is due precisely to what those Quack therapist simps for Cluster B persons are telling you to do: to give pity and empathy to, to feel sorry for, the Cluster B person, etc.)
Even mental health professionals who specialize in Codependency, Narcissism, etc, will tell you that not many in their profession understand Codependency and Narcissism!
These are people who have degrees in psychology saying this!
The honest ones will tell you that their fellow psychologists are often ignorant about Codependency and Narcissistic Abuse,
so beware – not every psychologist or therapist you visit will understand what you’re going through (if you’re the victim),
and some may even victim-blame you for what your abuser is doing to you. That commentary is coming straight from people who DO have degrees in these areas.
The qualified, honest psychologists will explain that personality disorders are not covered deeply or for very long in their course work they are required to take in order to get a degree – which is why even people who WORK as professional, full time therapists and psychologists do not always understand things like Narcissistic Abuse (or Codependency).
The competent therapists will tell you when you are doctor shopping to “interview” your therapist before committing, be sure to ask them how much they know and understand about Codependency and Narcissism, because a lot of therapists out there don’t understand these issues.
As honest and competent mental health professionals have noted in their books, web articles, and/or You Tube videos, not all other practitioners in their field are competent,
and some therapists or psychologists may be Codependent (and not realize it themselves), or,
they themselves may have personality disorders or antagonistic personality styles (such as Narcissism or Sociopathy), which can make them damaging to their patients (especially for the Codependents) who are dealing with an abusive or toxic person.
⚠️ So again, no, I do not have to have a college degree in mental health or work as a psychiatrist, psychologist, or therapist to have educated, informed opinions about personality disorders, toxic people, Codependency, or how to handle such relationships or situations. ⚠️
❇️ If you are a therapist or a psychologist, people in your OWN PROFESSION do not accurately understand codependency and personality disorders as admitted to by some therapists and psychologists themselves! ❇️
So don’t lecture me, a fairly well read lay person on the issues, that I should not be publicly opining on this, or making blog posts about any of this, or drawing my own conclusions, and don’t act all huffy when I say I disagree with you on Narcissism (or Topic X).
Don’t act infallible because you “have a degree” in psychotherapy or psychology, or because you’ve been a clinician for 25 years, and so your word is FINAL and nobody has a right to disagree, puh-leeze.
Go talk to your fellow therapists and educate THEM.
I probably know more on this stuff than THEY do!
Same can be said for anyone who comes from an abusive or narcissistic family system,
or who’s worked for a toxic person or been married to one who has later gone on to research the hell out of Cluster B disorders or abuse dynamics via reading books or essays by psychologists on the subject
– we don’t all need to sit through four or more years of college to grasp what Narcissism, Codependency, or Trauma Bonding is, or what abuse dynamics are.
I healed myself of depression by way of researching free mental health topics on line, figuring out ON MY OWN where my depression came from, when the mental health professionals I saw in person for 20+ years could not or would not, so I don’t need any other so-called mental health professionals condescendingly lecturing me to shut up about this or that mental health topic because I don’t have a degree in their field.
Well, I saw people who DID have degrees in your field, and they could not or would not help me – I, with no mental health degree, had to help myself. I had to succeed at something your colleagues FAILED AT.
Returning to the topic of the “Shrink4Men” therapist (psychologist?) on You Tube
I’ve not watched every video this Shrink4Men person has created, I’ve not read any of her webpages or books so far – but if she is marketing herself as a psychologist primarily aimed at assisting men, I wonder why?
I’ve seen another woman psychologist on You Tube who’s taken the same approach: she often opens her videos by saying,
“Because there are so few resources out there by mental health professionals aimed at MEN who are in toxic relationships with toxic WOMEN, I thought I’d fill that missing need.”
I enjoy videos by that other woman psychologist/therapist, she’s very informative, she really seems to know her stuff, but I cannot figure out why she (like Dr. Shrink4Men and a few others I’ve seen) say they aim their content primarily at men.
Little Gendered Differences
As someone – a layperson – whose spent around eight or nine years researching Codependency and similar issues (People Pleasing, Dependent Personality Disorder, etc),
and who’s spent the last 4 or 5 years studying Narcissism (and occasionally BPD, Sociopathy, etc),
I have observed that there’s actually very little gendered differences among these disorders, how they present, or how they impact the recipient.
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